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Woodie's Game Hint @ Atlanta
At 16:11 into MorTorq TV's 5th Episode Woodie tells us,
"Just be careful about the stock market, with jello, gerbils, and K'nex blocks." Start guessing guys! |
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Hmm......there are red and blue jello gerbils out on the field, and as a team of 2 aginst another team, you have to see how many jello gerbils you can get into the mondo K'nex cage. If the jello gerbil looses its shape (IE you kill the gerbil) you loose points because you just killed it.
There will be two teams of 2 on the field and you will have a 15 second atonumos period to see who can open the cage first, the team that does get a free gerbil. After that you have 2 minutes of collecting and dumping your gerbils into the cage. The end result is counted as follows: Live jello gerbils (that still look like gerbils) get you 2 points Dead jello gerbils subtract 1 point. Lastly if you can lift yourself or a teammate's bot onto the cage, you gain bonus points. |
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for me i think in autonomous you have to hook your roboti up to te internet and make it choose 5 stocks that will earn it exactly 500.32 dollars then it has to teleport the jello back to the human player at which point the human player must eat it using only the 3 foot long forks he has fashioned from the knex blocks vivek |
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Hmmm the Stock Market goes up and down... as does a gerbil wheel... possibly some sort of ferris wheel structure on the field that rotates constantly? Some sort of wiggly jello-like game piece must be placed on this rotating structure and points are received for the amount of time in the ferris-wheel-thing (like a stock market investment).
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are there any more 2008 game hints out there??? and what was the banana ever about in the 2007 game hint??? game hints are confusing.:confused:
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Haha I love it how he's just throwing stuff out there to throw people off. Woodie Flowers, you are the coolest.
By the way, very stellar production 1515. I don't think I've ever seen anything so well produced by a team. Whoever edits and shoots it has a lot of skill and it shows. |
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Woodie has been corrupted by Dave!!! Looks like he'll finally get that jello game he wants |
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The game next year will involve stacking gamepieces ON your robot for points.
I have a good feeling on it. :p |
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Clearly, from the past game "hints" you have to think more about objects/concepts that relate closely with the item/concept mentioned. Thus, there will not be any gerbils or stock markets, but something relating to them.
Now, pairing this logic with everyone's obsession with water.. I propose this: The robot will have to 'suck' water from something that resembles a gerbil's watering thing... i.e. your robot will have to push something to receive water. You'll then presumably have to water a banana tree or something so Dave can finally resolve his banana craze. The stock market reference may be a new way of randomizing the robot pairings. Your QPs (or some other quantifier) would be "invested" in the team pool. Then the match pairings would occur on the fly based upon your teams "worth" in the team market. I'm not sure about the K'nex, but they may become an acceptable building material for small assemblies. It would be cool to see teams building a custom camera mount using K'nex or something. Perhaps the manipulator that activates the water would have to be K'nex. Have fun with that! |
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I'm skeptical about the K'nex... Isn't Lego, like, a big sponsor or something like that?
;) Jacob |
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I'm thinking next year, you will have to catch something with your robot.
Dunno why. Just a feeling. |
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My first impression was maybe stacking objects that have similar properties of jello. and the jello stacks go up but also come down easily. However that seems to close to triple play. A hint also lies in the first logo. If you notice Triple play used triangles, aim high and rack and roll are all circle based, and then next year should be squares i think. The gerbils i really dont understand but the stock market he mentions to watch out for so the danger of the stock market is can go down quickly and enexpectedly so i think theres going to be somthing interesting next year.
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Hey sry for the double post but does anyone have any idea what last year game hint was?
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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...cial+game+hint This became the 'official one'. If the link in the first post doesn't work, post #15 shows it. There were at least 2 unofficial threads that discussed possible hints and in those were lots of references to the triangle, square, circle. It can be an interesting read if you have not seen it. ---- This looks like it was the 'official 2006' one: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...al+gam e+hint Jane Edit: I posted these links for the purpose of helping our newer members of CD access and read about a couple of the past official hints, not to confuse or interfere with what Pavan started this thread for. If they add confusion, we can ask that they be removed from this thread. |
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In regards to the first logo idea, I have heard from my coach of a pattern over the years. If there is a pattern next year will be some thing to do with balls
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Stock Market: rise and fall inflation investment putting in money or pulling it out (replace money with a game piece) Jello: jiggly (game piece or scoring object moves and wiggles) Gerbils: gerbil wheel (possible scoring device) gerbil watering thing (possible way to get game pieces) K'nex: can be put together (build something with the bots?) long thin pieces (another idea for game pieces) This is all I can think of for now, if anyone else has any ideas please feel free to add onto my list Brian |
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i think we are going to have to be building something around an unstable object to prevent it from crashing...
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2007 - circle 2006 - circle 2005 - triangle 2004 - circle 2003 - squares 2002 - circle 2001 - circle 2000 - circle 1999 - circle(not sure) 1998 - circle 1997 - Circle 1996 - Circle 1995 - Circle 1994 - Circle 1993 - Circle 1992 - Circle Maybe there is a trend...but not a pattern. Next years game will most likely be circles (going on probability). But i still think you will have to stack things on your robot. :) |
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But as far as next years game, I think that no-one has any clue, or at least anyone who has the liberty to say anything :p Jacob |
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Ken likes telling stories about his old experiences, so i know alot of "random information" |
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Typically the problems that FIRST gives us have something to do with a real-life scientific problem. If you were at the VCU closing ceremonies, Dave Lavery explained that the 10" spider feet represented sample canisters and the tubes represented the padding the canisters had to go into in order to be transported back to earth. The ramping bonus in the end game represented the different ways robots could be lifted onto a launch platform for takeoff.
For both problems, some mechanism were light and some mechanisms fit into small spaces. That said, the I would estimate that the proposition for putting non-solid objects on a larger, fragile and instable rotating object is a very good guess at what next year's game could be. Not only does it follow the trend of huge problems that have been solved before, but it also would allow for a broad range of robots to compete, much like this year's game. |
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Maybe it might be some kind of high level manipulator based game... k-nex have to do with building things so maybe we're building something out of pieces available on field, like stack attack only with more of a purpose to the stacking. Maybe some kind of very loose tolearance speed rail/pvc or something...
Jello and gerbils.... maybe it will be like the hangtime thing in the 2004? (unsure) game? if you can get on the gerbil wheel you get bonus or something. The jello.... eh... well in '06 they talked about spaghetti so maybe it has something to do with... with... ahh heck I don't know. :confused: -q |
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Spaghetti = Arms/Manipulators maybe?
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Okay here's what they're gonna do:
They are going to put each robot in a giant hamster cage. We've got to be able to build something so the robot can climb it's way out. At the end of the game, we climb up on something for extra points. And the drivers and operators eat jello while the human players throw ticker tape at the robots. It explains everything! |
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Obviously it has a different meaning than about the game itself.
"Watch the Stock Market" --You'll have to buy more things, or FIRST is going to have to buy lots of things. "Jell-o" --Nothing has been solidified yet. "Gerbils" --There is going to be much more frantic action on and off the field. "K'nex" --K'nex has always been about shape design, different from Legos who is about form design. I'm guessing it's about new and N'ext. |
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With the whole watch the stock market part of the clue, what I think is that the game piece's values change.
Like in the stock market, a value can go up or down easily, game pieces could randomly switch from positive to negative, and you have to be smart about when to remove them or something. I think you won't just be placing game pieces, you'll be taking them off as well. |
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K'nex? I love K'nex. I've got a great big tub up in the attic, probably around 15,000 pieces or so (big ball factory + space tower + 3 or 4 different kits)
I, however, will try not bang my head over it until they release the official clue. Then let the smashing begin :p . |
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So Gerbils are now an accepted method of power the robot. I hope teams bring spares ;)
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I also would not recommend shipping the gerbils with the robot.
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I hope FIRST lets us know soon if Gerbils will be included so we can get to work on these life support systems... |
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Of course I not sure what the bot would be for then |
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Not sure FIRST wants that kind of attention.. |
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the gerbils dont exactly have to be gerbils. i think they suggest a moving object that we have to grab and score with. and the stock market goes up and down so it could suggest a moving thing that we have to score on. and the jello it could be a new arena made out of jelly like material
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I am predicting green glowing jello on the back of the gerbils. This could lead to some very exciting camera usage with moving targets.
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personally i think that the game object will be some irregular shape that is not a perfect cube, square, or triangle.
as for the first logo there is no pattern, i have researched this and all of them except about 4 games are involving balls. |
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I think it will involve monkeys.
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Obviously these clues are not real and the FIRST Game Design comity is planting false clues in our head to make us think about it. They just want to see how much space we can waste on CD. :D
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What, no mention of a water game? '
Maybe we have to teach gerbils to swim in jello.... |
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WARNING: This just might be completely random, advance with caution!
Ok, I was just wondering. Is it feasible to turn your high school pool into a high school tub full of jello with a whole crapload of jello mix and canoe oars? Next question, if this feat is accomplished and someone jumps in could they possibly swim in it or would they drown in jello? Thats all i need thx. :D |
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Here is an idea for you..... look what k-nex just unveiled.... almost looks like rip-off legos: http://www.knex.com/Storage/KNEX_Bricks.php
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I found a game hint for the 2007 game... in a thread dating back to 1999.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...55&postcount=2 Just thought it was kind of interesting. |
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And you can't forget the banana in Dave's pocket at IRI!
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i think autonomous mood shout be at a random time because geribles hop on there wheel at random time and the stock market go up and or down at random times and then a kenex box is realy random (like mine with my game cube in it?) so ya i expect the random this year so ya ha in you face!?!?!?!
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I think that the Jello thing just stands for something unstable, not to be spilled or damaged... Might be passing buckets of water from side to side, though that would serioulsy damage some circuits out there... |
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There are going to be autonomous moving game pieces with a beacon that you robot must catch and place in a wheel to score.. Human players will release them and once they stop ( think wind-up toys) they don't count.
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i rember that in the 2007 rule book we couldn't use gerbils to power the robot. im sure you all said something about that. so i think we will need to power the robot with gerbils this year..
which is good so we don't need to charge a battery. :) or we might need to to some how turn some thing to make power how? jello= suger gerbil+ wheel= generator and stock market= cash= power and k'nex blocks = the thing we need to turn? ??? |
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one last thought were the gerbils and be got to build some thing with knex and it could wobble like jello or crash like the stock market.
that it and i no it ha!!! |
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hey, what if knex is a play on words, and we have to knext of k'nect or connect objects together?
-Gee |
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No gerbil power I think has been in the rules for a while as sort of comic relief and to stress the point of no animal cruelty I think.
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Interesting, I would have to go with the concept that the game pieces are going to be unstable like jello... they will be either moving around or changing throughout the game... The gerbils i think would have to be a gerbil wheel or something similar. As far as the Knex go i would have to say the game involves taking unstable objects and putting them together like Knex...
Just some thoughts...:D |
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lets see here. . .
jello jello is mostly sugar and water sugar sugar can be converted into energy energy e=mc^2 c sea ther are 7 seas 7 7 is the jackpot in casinos casino a casino is just like the stock market stock market the stock market is basicly a place where people rob each other AH HA thats it next years challenge is to build a robot to rob banks and bring the money to Woodie's safety deposit box BRILLIANT i will get started RIGHT NOW |
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Hmm... Well that would be weird. If what you're saying is true... You have to buid a fast robot to beat this Challange.
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actually, after reading this thread i didnt have TOO many ideas on my own
so i asked a friend with no robotics affiliation to give his best deliberation "Just be careful about the stock market, with jello, gerbils, and K'nex blocks." " stock market has ups and downs jello would slow you down gerbils are frantic and can do anything spontaneously well for k'nex you have to build stuff really fast " hmmmmmm...:D it actually makes sense to me! |
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ok heres my idea
What if the field was a pool (water would represent jello in the hint as jello is mostly water) and in the center of the rectangular pool is a wall. Now on that wall are bullseye targets with 5 lights above them. These lights represent the point value of the target. Teams would score on these targets by shooting ping pong balls at them. this wall would be double sided of course and the alliance on the other side is trying to do the same thing. now the trick to this is that the targets are always changing their values so that you have to shoot rather quickly to hit them at their top score. (this represents the stock market) Now to make it more difficult there are 3 floating orbs that make it more difficult for the teams to move around. (these represent the gerbils). these orbs would be repositioned every match. The scoring structure would look like Knex (self explanitory). Now to protect the field crews, the battery on the robots would have to be on top. that way if the robot sinks the battery isn't wet. a gfci tripper would be mandatory on the robots. also poles at the base of the robot prevent the robot from tipping over and getting the battery wet. a possible bonus would be that teams would have to drive to a ramp and hook on to a hook that would pull the robot up out of the water. if the team gets all three up they get the bonus. i forgot to add that for saftey reasons the pool would have to be a certain depth so that if the robot sinks the battery at the top wont get wet. (please note this is just a fantasy of mine not actually truth) Anyway thats just my idea. :D |
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How about the gerbil clue being that we will need to build a robot with legs? That could be really cool. And they did emphasise those various legged robots in their presentations in atlanta. There was a video about a robotic cockroach, there was the hex bug challenge, etc. It would open up a lot of possibilities for game design, too.
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1. A wheel you have to use/interact with 2. Or balls as the game piece. |
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My guess...
Stock market rises and falls (possibly stacking) Gerbils like in a cage shaped like a box. Jello comes in a box. K'nex BLOCKS. It seems as though we could see a return of stack attack maybe? -Sam |
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What do gerbils, jello, and knex have in common???
They all come in boxes?!?! So i think that it's obvious that the game piece has to be square. That's all for now. Team 168 Board.:rolleyes: |
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Looking back at previous games, the clue from this spring is typical and not very telling. One can observe though that in 2003, a stackable box or the 3d square, 2004 a game with balls or a 3d circle, 2005 tetras on tetras or 3d triangle, 2006 back to ball -3d circle, 2007 tubes, a special 3d circle in 2 directions.......WOW here is my guess.....
A combination of two of the components of the FIRST logo like..... circle and square yield a cylinder or column or pool noodle.......cylindrical object circle and triangle yields a cone shaped object like a traffic cone (which has a square base) yielding the use of all three components......... cool huh? |
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A lot of people insist on the traffic cone theory which I like, though has nothing to do with the clues. But that doesn't mean we're not due for it. It'd be challenging and fun at the same time. Who knows?
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Someone should start a thread that is a rumor mill of Who will spill next year's big rumor and what that rumor would be.
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I'm really excited to hear a clue this early but I am kind of suspicious. Usually these clues come after Christmas so I can't help but wonder if this is simply a distraction rather than the real deal.
Also, (not to burst y'all's bubble) there will probably never be any game involving any type of water because: 1) It will cost too much to have each arena equipped with such capabilities 2) It will take too much maintenance to take care of a field covered with water (Let's not forget the poof balls that kept shredding and eventually lost their structural integrity) 3) You are not even supposed to drink water around a robot. Imagine a task dealing with water. The safety issues are through the roof! The complications are far too many. I can't tell you much about this game, but there will not be water and if there is, as a safety captain, I may need some water to keep from hyperventilatiing. :ahh: |
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They all have to do with boxes.
take the gerbil to start with -between his bones are cartiledge, that cartiledge is made into jello -jello then is served to consumers in a cardboard box manufactured by the same company that makes those for the k'nex boxes -k'nex is owned by mattell, whose stocks are for sale in the stock market my friend told me that. i'm thinking that the next challanges has to do with boxes |
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robochick1319: http://www.h2orobots.org/
But it's still unlikely that FIRST will have a competition for water. |
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I dont think this has to do much withthe game hint but I personally am rooting for the return of some form of cuboid. I know there is no pattern to the games but my gut tells me to expect cuboids.
JMHO, vivek |
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i think we got to make a robot go thewe tubes so i think something has t odo with tubes
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What if the game involves tossing some smallish item at a wall covered in little spinning doors, and each door has two colors, your goal being to spin it to your teams color. this would be an interesting to come up with an autonomous mode for.
I'm not too sure how it relates to the hint but i have found past hints to be so incredibly cryptic that they serve more to throw you off then anything. i base this guess off the fact that a local robotics competition is using something similar... and last year their game also involved tubes... so maybe there is some strange relation |
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Well my team 2220 Blue Twilight is very suspicious of woodies hint we don't know what to think I have heard some good ideas but we don't know where to start, its even worse then last years hint but I am sure it will all make sense when the regionals come
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Woody and Dave have been quite....too quite. Usally they chime in by now. But I'm starting to get worried, lol.
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Dave, on the other hand, is due for some hints. Andy B. |
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He has a point. Dave has been almost suspiciously quiet this year. Maybe he's learned something, though--looking back at the 2006 game hint thread (for Dave's hints), it's scary how close we came to figuring out the game. Worse, he almost gave it away, but nobody thought to see why he was picking on someone else.
I'd suspect that Woodie gave an unofficial red herring, and Dave's silence is another. [edit] I took a look, and he has dropped a few possible "hints", but I only found about three or four. None is particularly obvious.[/edit] |
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Well, whatever the reason for Dave's semi-silence, it has saved us all from some really bad pun-ishment from Mr. Cokely.:D
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IMO....
The gerbils will be FAKE jello. In fact, they will be small, self-sufficient robots. Your autonomous mode must chase them down and crush them. For the game, each robot must build a robot gerbil using nothing but a microSD card, two bendy (oooooh....bennnnnndyyyy...) straws, and a toothpick. and half an omni wheel. And for the top 8 (aka Buzz and whoever they let in with them...), a paper clip. The lift wiil involve balancing a robot in a stack of 47 gerbil robots. the stack must be at least 15 feet high, and no more than three inches wide. Good luck. The balance will have 7 seconds to be completed. May the nerd force be with you. |
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k'nex doesn't come in blocks
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What the heck, K'nex don't have blocks, do they?
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maybe they make blocks out of knex peices?
-vivek |
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Maybe Dave hasn't been speaking much cause his mouth full of dounuts?
I guess it is time for Woodie to start having a little fun with us, messing with our minds. |
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I don't care if the President held a State of the Union addressing what the game might be, I need something to feed my crave now!!!
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