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wow...no one has talked about the draft yet.
what did you think of it?
what team do you think drafted well and what ones didnt?

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My winner of the draft was the Cleveland Browns. They filled a glaring hole with Joe T and then had the balls to move up to 22nd and grab Brady Quinn. Sure, it cost them the 1st rounder next year, but thats the price to pay for a franchise QB.

Side note: If it wasn't for the SATs and related prep, I wouldve been up in the balcony with the rest of gang green. J-E-T-S baby!

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I believe the Titans got the better hand in this year's draft. The losers? Whoever it was that picked Troy Smith in the 5th round.

How about the National Champion QB, Chris Leak, not even getting drafted?

We were extremely busy at K & K on Saturday, but everyone was still standing around watching the draft on the tv upfront. Owner was gone... hehe.


EDIT: I don't believe Brady Quinn will be a franchise QB, or that Jamarcus Russell was worth the #1 pick. I think I see another Ryan Leaf...

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Yes!!! We (Colts) got Anthony Gonzolez from Ohio State, he was our #1 draft pick. He is a pretty big addition to our team becuase he is supposed to replace Brandon Stokley but we also got more important people like Tony Ugoh, a tackle from Arkansas University. But I think that our most important pick was Daymeion Hughes from Cali. he may have been our 3rd pick but he replaces Nick Harper one of the most important offense players that we had mainly becuase he keep Peyton Manning safe most of the time.

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Chris Leak didnt employ an agent so he can play college ball next year.

I think that the browns made out this year. they get an A+++ haha.
I think that the losers of the draft were the Miami Dolphins. Ted Ginn in the 9th pick?? come on...you could have got him second or even third sround. then they got a quarterback that will nto start for two years, by then he will be 28 years old. back pics.

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I agree... the Dolphins did dump, but the Browns still won't do anything with good picks...

Chris Leak can't play college ball next year. He was a true senior this year and didn't redshirt.

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If he wanted to play in college next year, why did he use up all of his eligibility and why did he sign with the Bears?

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Patriots.
Got randy moss--Tom brady is gonna put up records.
Plus the "best" safety in the draft?

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i didnt know he signed with the bears haha.

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They'd better.....if Crennel and Savage want to keep their jobs. We here in Northeast Ohio have run out of patience.

I hope the New England buddy-buddy connection Charlie Weis didn't overhype Quinn's abilities. We shall see.

At least the Browns FINALLY addressed the offensive line via free agency and the draft this year. Everything else bad that happens on this team all starts with the line. Let's just hope their knees don't blow out inconveniently like LeCharles Bentley's did....

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your starting to sound like a lions fan
hahahaha

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Brilliant Dolphins!


Ginn unsure he'll be ready for Dolphins' training camp
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...e=NFLHeadlines

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In my entirely biased opinion, the Niners had the best draft/offseason.

I don't think Cleveland had a very good draft... I'm not at all convinced Quinn is even going to be a solid NFL player, letalone a franchise QB. The difference between him, Edwards, Beck, and Stanton isn't all that much, IMO. Had any of those 3 played at ND under Weis, I'd bet they would perform equally well, or better.

They basically gave up a top 10 pick next year to get him... so he better be real good to make it worth it.

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My opinion is that the Miami Dolphins made a horrible choice by picking a former Ohio State player. (Yes, this may just be because I am a huge University of Michigan fan when dealing with college football...but still.) ;) lol

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Seriously? I am a Titans fan, and $@#$@#$@#$@#, they did not have a good draft, at all. Griffin is overrated. Henry has never done anything good. It was a huge disappointment if you ask me.

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I know the guy who they drafted in the 7th round: Mike Otto. My wife and his aunt are good friends. He grew up on a farm near Kokomo. In high school, he known more for his basketball skills. At Purdue, he set a school record for starting 50 games in a row, starting from his freshman year. He is a smart farmboy.

As a Colts fan, I fear the Titans. They have what seems to be one of the best young teams in the league, along with the 49ers.

Watch Otto. He is a good ol' boy who is agile, strong, and dependable. I hope to see him starting at offensive guard by November.

Andy B.

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That is it, I am convinced that the Lions are beginning to tank for next season. I think picking Calvin Johnson was a great move, but trading down and getting Drew Stanton was not a better pick than getting Paul Posluszny, David Harris, Justin Durant, any available corner back, offensive linemen or LaMarr Woodley. I am convinced that Drew Stanton will never get a chance to play, because next year we will draft Brian Brohm or John David Booty, oh wait it is the Lions we will draft a wide receiver. We are blessed to have great hockey, basketball, and baseball teams so that is where the Lions get lucky. They aren't constantly scrutinized for their dumb moves. Sorry for sounding so upset and angry, but with the Lions, each year is an exercise in futility.

Edit: I can't write, I'm only in AP English. In my anger I forgot to include the word not. I am a complete idiot. That makes the rest of my rant make more sense.

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Excellent pick for the Bills since they got rid of a few LB's in the off season. He is a top notch all around LB.

and for my team: GB
Notice how they had 3 consecutive picks in the 6th round, that is pretty sweet. As always the Packers went to bulk up the DL first pick and then a RB in round 2 fill the void of Green gone. And hopefully this TE in the 7th round can catch better then Bubba Franks...

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My Bills had a nice draft getting Lynch and Posluszny but they still fell firther behind the Patriots who got even better and are now the Superbowl favorite.
We're gonna get nuked by them twice.
This stinks.

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Stanton will be the qb of the future for the lions. i think that we did good by picking him. he has a great bridge qb in kitna to help him get ready for the nfl. as much as i love him, they could have picked poslusznky then him. thats the only bad thing i think they did. but hey, we can always get some guys next draft. they are finaly rebuilding the team, thats a good sign.

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best draft=patriots
worst draft=dolphins

did anybody seee how the dolphin fans reacted when they heard their first pick

btw: that Jared Zabransky kid is gonna be something in Huston, after that AMAZING performance last season AND that thrilling Fiesta Bowl game.....

my cowboys didn't do that bad either...

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Anyone who thinks Ginn would have lasted to the second or third round is just not paying attention. The Dolphins being upset at not drafting Quinn will be tempered by Ginn's first big return or the first time he gets behind the defensive backs. Having coached against Ginn, I have seen just how amazingly fast he is. Even in the NFL there are not many players that fast. And it is not just raw speed, but the ability to see the openings and run through them ("running to daylight" in football terms). Hester's success for the Bears this year pretty much assured that Ginn would go in the first round (if there was any doubt before that). Many teams were not sure that Ginn would ever be a franchise player, but he was considered one of the safest picks in the draft in terms of being able to make an immediate impact.

I have done a couple of stat lessons on the NFL draft, using the work of other statisticians to guide my students. One of the interesting things to me is how mediocre scouting is in the NFL at being able to predict who will be good and who won't. This is not a dig at scouts per se, it is just hard to predict who is going to be a good player at the next level. One of the really interesting things to me is that players who shoot up or down far from where they were "expected" to be picked usually represent an overreaction if you compare their stats to other players at the same position. Particularly true of quarterbacks. The hypothesis of statisticians is that general managers will tend to place too much weight on one good or bad game or a 40 time at the combine (or a test score). Everyone remember how Vince Young's stock dropped last year? All the analysts saying there were serious concerns about his ability to play? Guess that rookie season proved the analysts right, or not.

PS-How could a Michigan fan have such negative feelings about Ginn? Could it be all the highlights?;)

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I want to see how Troy Smith ultimately does, although I hope he gets his chance with a team other than the Ratbirds (or Stealers [sic, intended]). Oh did I say Ratbirds? I *meant* Ravens. :D

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Travis, got to agree with you that I wish Troy Smith well, but bring myself to be happy at the prospect of seeing the R....avens do well. Smith landed in a good spot for himself with an older veteran whose backup is in the last year of his contract. Now I just hope that the addition of Thomas and some other guys being healthy allows the Browns to stop the blind side pass rush once in a while, just as a change of pace.

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I think that both of those players will not beas good as people hope. Look how bad they played when the pressure was on them in the championship. Now i know what people will say, well Michigan can win a bowl game if their lives depended on it, well, we are not talking about college football here we are talking about the draft, hahaha. but i think that Ginn would have fell to the dolphins next pick in the second round. I think they should have drafted Quinn, as much as i dont like him for what he did to my Spartans, he is still a darn good QB. I think they passed up on the chance to get the next Phil Rivers or Drew Brees.

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I keep hearing "Quinn should have been #1" at work... I called it from the start... I know Quinn isn't great and I know Troy Smith is really actually terrible. In all honesty, I was suprised when Smith actually got drafted.

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i am definatly not saying quinn should have went number one. noooooo im saying he should have went ninth to miami haha

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According to a couple of the general managers who have talked about the draft, there is no way Ginn falls to the Dolphins second round pick. As for Ginn not playing well when the pressure was on? Ginn returned the opening kick for a touchdown and then had one of his idiot teammates dive on his foot, knocking him out of the game. How exactly did he not perform well? He has played in a number of high pressure games and performed very well. Even filling in at QB in a bowl game.

By what stretch of the imagination does one come up with Smith is terrible? Based on one bad game?

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Michigan fans have quite the imagination....but perhaps poor memory?

42-39 :D :D :D

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"Michigan fans have quite the imagination....but perhaps poor memory?"

Maybe they are just trying to block those memories out?:)

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Yea. i mentioned it up there. Stupid Quinn, State had them beat, but John L. Smith decided he didnt want to win the game, so he went in to prevent defence and conservative offence.

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Dolphins were among the worst but they did catch a break getting Beck in the second round, he was ranked by some ahead of Quinn.

I am not so sure the Patriots had the best draft weekend; they undoubtedly had one of the top two off seasons (Thomas, Welker, Washington, Moss, and Stallworth make for impressive additions.) but as far as actual Draft picks Meriweather at safety is the only name we are all going to hear on a weekly basis. The really important thing that the Patriots did is essentially defer their extra first round pick for a year, they just didn't need it.

Also I think it needs to be pointed out that the Patriots essentially got Moss by only trading their second first round pick this year for one next year, something they probably wanted to do anyway. (They got Moss for a 4th round pick that was part of the trade with San Francisco)



I wouldn't have put Quinn at number one, he isn't terribly accurate, but he has tons of potential and he certainly was not the 22nd best player in the draft.

As far as Smith being terrible that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard, he most likely wont be a huge force in the NFL but he did have a great college career and if you recall he won a little Trophy because of it, bottom line is if he was a little taller he would have been up their with Russell and Quinn, Call it Flutie syndrome if you want.

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Bitter much?:p

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I am personally ecstatic that my good friend Tony Hunt has been picked up by the Eagles, and will be here in my neighborhood soon!

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Koko Ed, I don't think bitter really captures the feelings of many Browns fans toward the Ravens. It's just too tame a word. ;)

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i've got a better word for it. homicidal.

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My brother is the head of nightime room service at the Ritz Carlton in Atlanta and Art Modell stayed at his hotel (switching hotles suddenly to eldue those "homicidal" Browns fans) and had well armed gaurds staying outside his room.
Browns fans are a blue colar lot and it's unlikely they would actually put together enough money to hire a killer or put together an elaborate scheme to assinate him. Now if he was actually dumb enough to show up at the Browns stadium well, let's just say all bets are off.

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I'm sure it won't take more than another dozen or so years before the anti-Model fervor dies down some.:) Then again, did Irsay ever go back to Baltimore after "The Move?" At least the Browns own the history of the Browns. Maybe one season in the future they'll win a few games. Go Quinn! (Side note: Since Quinn is from one of our high schools, any comments about him from 1014 need to taken with a grain of salt.)