|
November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Announcing !!!!
Brunswick Eruption 6 November 3, 2007 @ North Brunswick Twp High School, No. Brunswick, NJ we're playing Rack and Roll one more time... lots of fun to be had by all.... for details and registration go to http://www.raiderrobotix.org/be/ |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
What an amazing event every year, Once I saw this post I got online and already submitted for a day off from work. Can't wait!
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Can i come ?
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Sent in my Volunteer Application =).
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I'll be there for the sixth year in a row! :p [with a special, surprise guest!]
1923 would not be one to miss BE, it's where we got our start as pre-rookies, so I'm pretty sure we'll be registering within a few days. See you there! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I just sent in my volunteer application too =] OOOOOO now BE cannot come fast enough!!!
I shall get my team to sign-up... I mean we have to... its BE and we're defending champs lol. YAY BRUNSWICK!!!!! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I wanna volunteer too.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I just sent in my volunteer application.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
We currently have 13 teams registered for this event, meaning we still have 20 spots open! Have your team sign up today at the event website (http://brunswickeruption.raiderrobotix.org).
It's going to be a great event so make sure your team registers before all our spots fill up! :D |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
how can I get a school to adopt my school as a pre-rookie team?
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Here is a list of teams from New Jersey that are willing to help mentor a team. Try to contact one of those teams; it helps if they're nearby your town.
Hope to see you at BE! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Are you guys serving Evil Sundaes?
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I'm going to see if I can find some roadtrip partners...
Wetzel |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I just submitted my volunteer application. This will be fun!
Woohoo! :D |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
shameless plug to boost this thread.....
School is almost here and you know what time it is….. OFFSEASON! Se we invite you to come play Rack and Roll once more at BRUNSWICK ERUPTION 6 November 3, 2007 @ North Brunswick Twp. High School In beautiful North Brunswick, NJ We have complete details and registration for the event at http://be.raiderrobotix.org/home.html In a nutshell- - 30-36 teams - $200 registration - Modified Rack Attack Rules- in process - Event runs from 8-5 - Food concession - Lots of fun! - Use that 2007 robot one more time! And, as always, mentor and bring a pre-rookie team with a borrowed robot and get a $100 discount off registration. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
IF we enroll our max of 36 teams -- at lunch time we will hold an Evil Sundae eating contest. Rules- 1. team captains (student) must represent their drive teams 1 a. the contest will be held in the lunch hour 2. the evil sundaes will be provided by team 25 chefs 3. the first Team Captain to down the ENTIRE SUNDAE wins. Note: the ENTIRE SUNDAE. 4. judges decision is final Bring your Rolaids and barf bags..... WC :cool: |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
That would be great but I know I won't finish mine - at least fast anyway =) Besides I'm a shake fan / Soft Ice Cream or Italian Ice.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
:cool: |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I take it these Sundaes are not exactly the ones with the "normal" ingredients =).
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
They wouldn't be EVIL if they were made with normal ingredients now would they? -wayne |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
 And for those parties interested: the Brunswick Eruption VI Facebook event. Hope to see you all there. :cool: |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Oh boy....evil sundaes....i shudder with the thought.
I won't spoil the surprise though. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
We currently have 24 teams registered for Brunswick Eruption 6!
Remember, the aforementioned Evil Sundae eating contest will be held only if we enroll our maximum of 36 teams! ***Also, as a part of our team's ongoing dedication to community service, we will be collecting and accepting new, unwrapped toy donations during Brunswick Eruption. The toys will be donated to the Marine Corps Toys for Tots 2007 Holiday Campaign in Central NJ, in support of our team member’s Boy Scout Eagle Service Project. Prizes will be awarded to the Top 2 Teams with the most donations!*** Here is the flyer containing more details and contact information about this wonderful project. :] |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
no- actually 24- two more added this week
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
and the numbers climb.....
BE6 now has 27 teams (see below). We are closing at 33 max. I have 2 new prerookies looking for robots to play with. If anybody wishes to lend a hand..... other news- Toys for Tots Toy Drive- one of our members Chris Mclean is conducting a toy drive and we are looking for new, unwrapped toys at the event for the Marines Toys For Tots program. This is an Eagle Project for Chris and obviously a noble cause. Check the BE web page for details Evil Sundae Eating Contest- my drive coach Shaun is getting us official airlines barf bags for the event. So each team have you candidate primed and ready at lunch time. Dont miss this one.... WC teams- 11 25 75 99 103 222 271 358 369 423 555 869 1048 1089 1211 1302 1396 1403 1660 1807 1862 1923 1989 2070 2140 2205 2070 A |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Update-
today finds BE6 with 32 teams and getting close to closing out. If you are sitting on the fence you had better act now or risk missing out. It's gonna be fun... the tikis are ordered!! WC :cool: |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
I know I took a long time to respond but after seeing a pic of the before and after you I now get the idea behind it esp. with the "Official Airline Barf Bags". This should be interesting. My sister could probably do one of those comp. shes into mixing the wierdest combos for just laughs. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
It looks like 1618 will be sending a robot up I-95 for a pre-rookie team. We can't send the team proper this year, but the robot will be making the trip. (Fortunately, an FRC robot fits quite nicely in the back of a 1997 Honda CR-V.)
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
When will volunteer assignments be sent out?
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I'm working on it.... i swear *shifty eyes* anyone who thinks I played KOTOR all day is ummmm wrong *more shifty eyes*
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Brunswick Eruption 6 is now full
Today we registered our 36/37th teams and we close registration for new teams. We will create a waiting list for those who wish to attend in case we lose a team or two. Of the 37 there are 5 prerookies playing with borrowed robots for the first time and "big brother" teams helping them along. The tikis are ordered and half have arrived!! And the evil sundaes are in the works- now I need a trip to the bait store..... WC :cool: Team # Team Name Town/School 11 MORT Flanders, NJ 25 Raider Robotix North Brunswick, NJ 75 Robo Raiders Hillsboro, NJ 99A El Taco 103 Cybersonics Kintnersville, Pa 222 Tigertrons Tun khannock, Pa 271 Mechanical Marauders Bayshore, NY 358 Robotic Eagles 369 Nuts and Volts , NY 423 SEC 555 The Partially Bionic Bulldog of Death, Destruction, and Gracious Professionalism Montclair, NJ 869 Power Cord 1048 Mustang Robotics Manville, NJ 1089 Team Mercury Hightstown, NJ 1211 1302 Pope John Robotics Sparta, NJ 1396 NYC 1403 Cougar Robotics Montgomery, NJ 1660 Harlem Knights Harlem, NY 1807 Redbird Robotics Allentown, NJ 1862 Red Raiders Cliffside park, NJ 1923 Royal Knights West Windsor, NJ 1989 Viking Robotics 2070 ? Ridgefield, NJ 2140 2205 2070 A ? Leonia, NJ 1676 Pascack Pi-oneers Montville, NJ 1626 Falcon Robotics Metuchen, NJ 102 Gearheads Somerville, NJ 56 Robbe Extreme Bound Brook, NJ 1618A Gladstone, NJ 768 Technowarriors Rochester, NY 303 Panther Robotics Bridgewater, NJ 1923A JP Stevens HS Edison, NJ 888 Robotiators 888A Columbia, Md |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Quote:
1618's got the shoulder of our arm fixed already, and the gripper is next--come BE, we're gonna (finally!) be good for more than D. (Just remember to stay clear of the front--Uppercut's already lived up to its name once.) |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
For the past few years at BE we have had a raffle for game tix, dinners and valuable electronics. It has always been such fun that this year we just need to say one word....
Wii Will you be there? will you be ready? November 3 @ NBTHS, North Brunswick, NJ |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Holy Intense Batman, between the tikis, the evil sundae eating contest, and now the Wii!! not to mention the ridiculousness that the 36/37 teams are going to bring the party will be erupting in North Brunswick. I'm so stoked for this..... Bring your A-Game ladies and gents!!!
-wayne |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Update for everyone.
Brunswick eruption is full as Mr. Cokeley mentioned. The full list of teams can be seen here. We currently have 33 FIRST teams and 5 PRE-ROOKIES. Total of 38 teams - this is more than our quota :ahh:. We have also decided on a few rule changes/clarifications. They can be viewed here. Quote:
This event is turning out to be a lot of fun. I know a lot of people are busy doing a lot of work back stage so it will be good. See you all there. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Yay for Team 102 finally signing up haha. Took me a while to get them going on it but they finally did!!!
However, sadly, I don't think I will be able to make it to BE =( This will be like one of the first I've EVER missed... but something else has come up and it might just interfeer with Brunswick Eruption. I know BE will be off the hook though :] |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
So I just received an update on BE--apparently, we're looking at four-team alliances for the event.
This could get interesting. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Yes, upon Wayne Penn's suggestion, we have decided to modify the rules. Updates will be posted on the website. This was done in best interest to get and keep all teams involved while still maintaining the competitive spirit of FIRST.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Here's the announcement that went out to team leaders from the Head Raider, Mr. C. BE is going to be so much fun!!!
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
As you probably heard, at BE6 a week from Saturday we will be having an-
EVIL SUNDAE EATING CONTEST This e-mail is designed to answer you questions about just how evil these sundaes are and to encourage each team to choose 1 champion to represent them in the event What the x%&&*) is an Evil Sundae? Evil Sundaes are the concoction of my sinister assistant coach Bob Goldman who was fending off a practical joke by a student. The student was later served an ice cream sundae with a unique topping- crisp, greasy bacon. Wayne Penn was served a similar sundae after the NJ Regional this spring and HE suggested we offer a prize to anyone who can effectively eat one of these things. Of course Evil sundaes have evolved since then….. What is in and Evil Sundae? That is a closely guarded secret but let me say a. Everything in it is edible b. It is not kosher c. If you have allergies I would avoid eating one d. Part of the sundae is green e. Part of the sundae is red f. Nothing will crawl out of it g. You don’t need to eat the bones or shells h. No small animals were harmed in the making of Evil Sundaes i. It made Wayne Penn reconsider desserts for a long time…. What are the rules of the contest? Rule 1- Only 1 champion can represent a team. Champions will register in the morning with our pit sign up person. Rule 2- This is a timed contest. The first person to COMPLETELY consume an entire Evil Sundae will win. Rule 3- Champions on each team may bring with them their favorite sundae eating spoon. This spoon can be of any size and decorated any way. And it must be tasteful and reflect gracious professionalism. For those not bringing a “champion’s spoon” we will provide plastic spoons- which might be a handicap. Rule 4- The champion must “keep the sundae down” for at least two minutes after the contest. While we don’t expect regurgitation, barf bags will be provided for each contestant. The contest will be held at the end of the lunch period in our Commons area. A special tiki will be awarded the winning team at the end of the day. So start stretching those bellies, plugging those nostrils and training to gorge. This may be your only shot to be Master of Evil!!! WC |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I challenge Wayne Penn to an evil sundae eating contest (on the side) :rolleyes: *insert evil laugh here*
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Wayne will win.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Just wondering if anyone is selling shirts or anything there?
Thanks. Can't wait to be there :D |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
With 38 teams, this is going to the largest BE yet, and it's shaping up rather well. :cool: Also, don't forget about our modified autonomous bonus! Can't wait to see you all there - it's going to be a blast! :) |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
How can I go about registering a team for this event?
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
EDIT: If not, here you go |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
sorry- BE6 filled up a few weeks ago. I have several teams waitlisted and will tell them by Saturday.
Of course everybody can come out and have fun at the event without a robot... WC |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
OK thanks. Guess well go to have fun then.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
If i was to bet, my money would be on her. :cool: Unfortunately I will be missing this event, as I have other plans that weekend. The Australian Pink Floyd is in town, and a few of us 237ers are headed over to that concert, and then a Halloween party or two are calling my name that night. I wish everyone a fun time @ BE though! :) |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Just a few more days... Thanks CD for setting up the countdown clock up top, gives us obsessive-compulsives something to look at (click refresh...click refresh... ...)
Don |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I am pleased to announce that, in addition to the Wii, we will also be raffling off an iPod nano that was graciously donated for the event! :D
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
1618's robot is sitting in the office of Preston College, with the rest of the entourage in my room. The new back panel, arm bar, wheel nuts, and gripper have been installed, though the gripper showed some problems in testing last night. (But hey, the flying brick approach worked for us once already.)
I'll be on the road at the crack of dawn tomorrow morning, and in North Brunswick that evening. I can't wait. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
i request a rematch of Sumo with me vs. Big Mike.
Big Mike do you accept? |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Best of luck with your event this weekend!
Have Fun!! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Team 222 can't wait for tomorrow. I'm getting ready to head up to the school and put some finishing touches on our new prototype bot we will be competing with. Can't wait to see how it performs on the field. See you all there in about 17.5 hours!
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
hmmm only 8 hours now...
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Uppercut made the trip up largely in one piece, though the gripper broke hard in practice.
Time to claim our spot as the finest flying brick. (in the South) (at a New Jersey event) (in the off-season) (piloted by a pre-rookie team) (this year) |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I came home early so if anyone could list final matches/awards that'd be great. Thanks in advance.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
:( I'm sorry :(
I was suppose to be there today and I just realized that now I'm kicking myself in the rear as of right now Sorry for letting you down Big Mike :( Thats not like me to forget something like this |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Well, teams 888-869-555-2888 got second and 25-1089-1627(I'm not to sure if that the team number, it is the St. Joes team) got first.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
1089 got eliminated in the semifinals.
It was 1923, 25, 1627 and 222 that won. We did, however, win the evil sundae contest. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Ah that would be why I remembered 1089. Great job with that sundae, I don't think our team even came close to finishing half of it.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Thank you 1089 for picking us! We had an awesome time!
on behalf of 2923 aka 2554 from John P Stevens High School |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Nice!!! Glad to see that JP Stevens already is making some headway into Chief Delphi! You're moving faster than we had thought! It was great working with you, and great seeing one of our old robots in action again!
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
just as a btw, its 1626, but yeah it's nice to see Jps getting started with their robotics program. since our teams are like 5 mins away feel free to ask any questions or whatever.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Here is the link to the video of the winner chomping down the Evil Sundae in about 40 seconds!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX68cM7mNl4 |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I'm downloading pictures from my camera right now. Brunswick Eruption was a lot of milestones for me--longest drive, first time taking a robot across state lines, first time working with prerookies--but it was absolutely worth it.
I have a long, long, list of thank-yous... First and foremost, thanks to 25 for setting the whole concept into motion. They're onto something with this pre-rookie thing. Second, thanks to Gail Van Ekeren and the crew from Gill St. Bernard's School, otherwise known as 2458. These kids came in cold on Friday night, and by the end of our (far-too-brief) run they were slinging Uppercut around like they'd done it for weeks. No matter how hard we broke (and we broke hard), they were always willing to jump in anywhere they could. I'm proud of this group for many reasons, and I hope we cross paths sometime in the future. They're the real deal. Big thanks to all the teams who helped us with tools and parts; 25, 1626, 888, 103, and 1676 all come to mind, but I'm sure there are others I don't remember. Thanks to Alexa Stott and her family for putting me up the past few days. Duel last year notwithstanding, I've never been in New Jersey before; it's been an interesting adjustment experience. I'll have pictures up soon, and then it's time to hit the hay. 680 miles down, 680 to go. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
BE was sooo much fun, I'm really glad I decided to take the trip down. Thanks to Ed for driving and Alexa for letting me stay over. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
On a happier note I'm glad to hear that things were smooth. The one chance I get to be in charge of something and I forget. There's always next year =). So how did you guys keep up with the tubes =), were there many popped tubes like at Champs or Monty? =) Details Details Liz, Penn anyone lol |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Ed, want some meat? |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
The official results-
Best Autonomous Mode Tiki - 271 Future Glory Award- prerookie- 4076- Gill St Bernards HS, Gladstone NJ mentored by Billfred for the event Evil Sundae Survivor- 1089 Mike's Favorite - chosen by NASA in remembrance of Mike Wade- 2923- a prerookie team from JP Stevens HS, Edison NJ and Robbinsville, HS mentored by 1089 Team Spirit Award- 1403 Got Your Back Award- best ramp/lift bot- 869 Referees Choice- 1075 Toy Drive Winners- 869, 1211 Finalists- 888,2888,555,869 Champions- 1626,25,1923,222 Big Kahunas for 2007- Lynne Mclean (team 25-press agent mom) and Sara Neid/Mike Nason- perennial score table volunteer duo who make BE possible Thanks to all who came out to support the event. Sorry we ran a bit long. I hope all had fun!! WC |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I still haven't completely realized that 1923 won. This is not something we're used to, so it's honestly a bit of a shock.
Thanks to all the volunteers for doing what you do, BE definitely couldn't have run as well without you. Thanks to 1626, 25, and 222, you guys were fantastic alliance partners. 888, 2888, 555, 869-- You were great competitors. To steal from that good ol' playbook of sports, good game. Also, a special thanks to (see custom title) "IDK, my BFF" Michelle Celio for being 1923's cheering section. All in all, an awesome event. Great robots, great people...interesting sundaes...I've never missed a single Brunswick Eruption, and I don't plan on ever doing so. :) |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I just wanted to thank all of the teams who contributed to our toy drive. It was a great success. Congratulations to Teams 869 and 1211 for winning the toy drive tikis. All donations were greatly appreciated and will be donated to the Toys for Tots foundation. Thanks for making a child's holiday a little bit brighter.
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
BE was a lot of fun! It was my first event without my team, not to mention the longest I've ever driven. Definitely worth the drive.
I took ~1400 photos over the course of the day. The best ones I just uploaded to Flickr (it took 3.5 hours!:ahh:) in their original size and resolution. They can be found here. Most look best at a larger size, so I recommend checking some out at the "Large" size. There will probably be more up tomorrow after I get back to school and do some hardcore studying. Congrats to 1923, 1626, 222, and 25! Also congrats to 1089 for winning that intense Evil Sundae eating contest. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
First of all I would like to say thanks to team 1626, 25 and 1923 for picking us as alliance partners. I know our performance in the practice rounds was almost horrible. Secondly I have to thank my high school students for working so hard through the previous week and the qualification rounds. For those who had not come through our pit, our robot was pretty much constructed in 6 days with some borrowed parts from our 07 competition bot. The purpose of this 6 day build was to test out some 80/20 quick frame and the nylon connectors it uses for strength and durability. Look for our findings sometime after November 10th because we are going to Ramp Riot and the robot will have two full competitions under its belt. I will tell you that the weight savings and what we saw the robot take at BE has already convinced 222 to take a new direction in robot building for the 2008 season.
So again after my ramblings thank you to our alliance partners, my team mates and also all the volunteers that made BE possible. Stop by and take a look at Ramp Riot We will be glad to talk about the quick frame we used. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
In the full sized picture you can see some of our doodles on the robot. You must have an amazing telescopic lens, or you must have been right on top of us. |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Hey All,
Just wanted to drop a line and say us Crazy Canucks from Canada (oo, alliteration) had a great time! Wayne, you did an outstanding job with organizing and your students were incredibly friendly and helpful. Thanks for the TIKI statue, it is quite the conversation piece as it sits among the more... bland trophies. I must say an enormous thank you to Sean and Sheri (I hope I spelled their names right). They took us out of their way to give us a true "New Jersey" experience at Harold's Deli. While the wait was long, it was well worth it when that 50 pound pastrami/corned beef sandwich hit the table. You guys were very generous in giving us your time and company. Thanks again and we look forward to revisiting North Brunswick, New Jersey next year! |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
I finally uploaded the pictures that my step-mom took. Because of aperture, iso and speed being used, some of the pictures are terribly out of focus and others are badly lit, but I really didn't have time to sort through them before uploading. Anyway, it is mostly our team, oddly there are a bunch of me, and some random shots of other teams and their robots. (There is a really good one of Team 75)
http://s243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ck%20Eruption/ |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Well, I just finished digitizing all of my tapes from North Brunswick. It was a great event and everyone did a great job. It feels great to finally see a competition after several months with no FRC. Congratulations to teams 1626,25,1923,and 222. You guys did an amazing job. Despite this, I was, however, a bit surprised about a calling made in one of the matches.
I was watching the final match of the day and it seems that the referees handled the penalties wrong. This corresponds to rule <R25>. To my knowledge, being in the opposing alliance's home-zone at the start of the end-game is a 10 point penalty. Another 10 point penalty is assessed for every five seconds of sitting in the opposing alliance home-zone after the initial penalty. The video that I have shows team 1923 in the home-zone for eight seconds after the start of the end-game. This means that the red alliance would incur an additional 10-point penalty. I am not sure if this would change the out come of the match, but it is something that was over looked in the heat of the moment. I was also a bit surprised at the previous match (the final one was a replay of this match). During this match team 25 repeatedly rammed the player station. While there is the argument that they were trying to knock the tubes down so they could pick them up, and I realize that this is the only way some teams can pick up tubes, like team 1626, team 25 never once picked up any of these tubes. At one point they rammed something which disabled something on the blue alliance causing the match to be replayed. I am not sure if this would violate rule <R35>. At any rate, I was just curious to see if anybody else noticed this. Maybe this is just splitting hairs, but what do you guys think? |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
There could be many reasons why 25 decided not to take tubes in any given match; perhaps their gripper developed issues in the process of hitting the wall, perhaps their priorities shifted in the match due to opponent or partner actions, or perhaps their drivers that match just couldn't drive. (I have coached about 11 different drivers over the years on varying fields and teams; some have it, some don't.) If something came loose on the field to such a degree that a robot lost signal, it would be a field fault and be grounds for a restart of the match. If the field control system experienced no issues, then the problem is with the team. If 25's robot reached over the wall, unscrewed the radio or competition cable, and then went back in bounds...then I want video. But you'd have a hard time convincing me that G35 is an issue here. If they were causing significant damage to the field, it could instead fall under G34. I quote: Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
While 25 did hit the wall kind of hard, it was not the first time they used that technique to get tubes onto the floor - I first saw it used in Trenton early this year. One might argue that they hit the wall a bit hard, but I can't say or even believe that they intended to knock the wall-warts out of their sockets to disable part of the field. Disingenious if on purpose, since they were clearly winning and a match reset was not in their best interest. I can imagine that their line of sight was difficult at best, and just a fraction of a second too long on the throttle is all it took. I have never been a referee, but I can imagine that some penalties don't get called because they are not noticed. The refs try their best, but are not perfect. I don't think that even if blue had won that game the overall outcome would have been any different. It is simply that 25 has a very good robot and drivers. Combined with 1626, they were unstoppable (No disrespect to the other alliance members) Don |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Signed, 0-3 against 1626 this year |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Our driver Morgan does get a little overzealous in bumping the wall to knock down the tubes. The maneuver is supposed to bump the standing tubes and make them fall forward. What we don't want is to pop them and make a mess nor do we want to smash through the player station wall, damaging the NASA field and killing somebody. So all I can say is that in the heat of the game he got a little too fast and kaboom. Of course when other robots are all over you it is sometimes hard to to the flip and pick up the tubes you knock down. You may recall a few blind grabs they missed along the far wall. You will also recall our whole grabber flopping side to side in the eliminations rounds. We broke it in the QFs and replaced the entire thing in the pits between rounds. However the tubing we use to stabilize it was just thrown on and needed to be tightened a lot. So placing tubes was becoming a challenge while we were under pressure. As for the penalties- As I understand it, the objective of the round was to put up a bunch of tubes and pull attention off 1626 while they continued to do so. The plan was for 25 and 1923 to park just off the end zone and apply the brakes in a broadside position so the two robots couldn't get the running start they needed to get up the ramp in the final 15 seconds of the game. I think 1923 drifted back over the line and incurred the penalties because they couldn't see their position clearly due to the rack in the way. I think they called 2 penalties for over the line but the score was high enough anyway to win by a few points Believe me, as the guy on the outside line, I was thinking "oh great- a controversy in the finals- and it's so late already!'' Winning the event wasn't as important to us as doing our best for the alliance partners and playing the game. I hope everybody enjoyed the day and has some fond memories of it. WC :cool: |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Quote:
|
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
Thanks for clearing that up. I figured that the differences in the score would be such that it wouldn't make a difference, but curiosity got the better of me. I am just a bit curious about one thing. Since it appears that team 25 knocked the wall warts out of the socket when they hit the player station, does that mean that the configuration of the area controllers was different than it was at a regional. I noticed that they weren't in the sealed metal case below the player station, but is the setup with power different? Anyway, thank you to everyone for clearing that up. Thank you Wayne for clearing up what exactly happened during that match (my camera angle was a bit too tight to get the overall picture). |
Re: November 3, 2007 Brunswick Eruption 6
Quote:
|
| All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:00. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © Chief Delphi