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charliet 11-08-2007 18:56

FIRST The Trivia Game
 
Hello all and thanks for checking this out.

Ok, so let me give a back story before I get to the "juicy" stuff. I am in charge of the Team Social at the MARC event this weekend. Well, one idea that I came up with was a simple trivia game where the questions related to FIRST and such.. well I am no FIRST expert and neither is our team. We just don't have that experience yet, incluidng myself the most FIRST experienced member. So I said I would just go ask CD for some trivia. But then I thought about it more, and figured you guys might want to play the game as well!

Hench, after much thought and a little programming i have created FIRST The Trivia Game. http://www.charlieslab.com/trivia (tested/working in Opera 9, IE 6, FF 2)

The basic ideas are:
-- anybody can submit trivia very easily
-- anybody can answer the trivia very easily

Well, I think I accomplished this by eliminating the need for accounts and such. All one has to do is visit the very simple website and they can begin to play or submit. (In the future there will be other features relating to trivia, hence the More section)

Anyway. So it is ready in its most basic form to begin being used. It has only 2 trivia questions, because as I said I do not have a ton of good ideas on that, hence the point of the site.

So check it out if you dont think its totally lame (which I will understand if you do). And submit some trivia about your team that people could answer, or about any of the other fun topics on there.

I am open and kind of requesting suggestions here on how to improve the site and such. I dont expect it to be WIN on the first try. So let me know what I need to do.

What it needs most is:
-- trivia
-- suggestions for improvement

Thanks CD! Hope you at least get a good laugh out of it.

Branden Ghena 11-08-2007 20:17

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Sweet site charles

Tottanka 11-08-2007 20:18

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That looks great!
a few tips:
* You should add some more answers to the questions, or ake them multichoice.
There is a question :" what is the name of the camera that loves to find green light?"
answers could go : cmu,cmucam, cmucam2, cmu cam, cmu cam 2 etc...
a multi choice will solve it...

* Maybe add an option for users to play on/without time...

*show the correct answer once answered wrong...

*next question could be closer to the question, and not in the other side of the window...

once again, looks great!

charliet 11-08-2007 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 638382)
That looks great!
a few tips:
* You should add some more answers to the questions, or ake them multichoice.
There is a question :" what is the name of the camera that loves to find green light?"
answers could go : cmu,cmucam, cmucam2, cmu cam, cmu cam 2 etc...
a multi choice will solve it...

* Maybe add an option for users to play on/without time...

*show the correct answer once answered wrong...

*next question could be closer to the question, and not in the other side of the window...

once again, looks great!

good stuff. i agree on the multiple answer idea, implementing as we speak. the no time option I will also add, as I think I agree with you.

not a fan of showing the answer, but I will consider it and wait for some more feedback. the only reason I dont is cause I planned to implement a scoreboard system, and I wouldnt want people abusing the available answers.

and yeah, I will move the next question link.

thanks!

anybody else, bring em on, i love em.

Schnabel 11-08-2007 21:12

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Seriously do consider showing the correct answer for when you have a large database of questions. This will prove useful to people like me who want to find out the answer and remember it to show off later. :D Also I was asked the same question 3 times in a row. You may want to fix that.

artdutra04 11-08-2007 21:36

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Multiple choice will definitely help. On the camera question, answering 'CMUcam2' (without quotes) as it is correctly referred to was considered wrong. At least if there is a choice of answers then it will be easier to guess exactly how the original answer was worded.

Otherwise, looks good. ;)

Branden Ghena 11-08-2007 21:49

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You could make the answer button respond to the enter key, and not just the mouse button. Other than that looks great, and you already have a small database of questions going.

charliet 11-08-2007 21:58

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ok, the multiple answers feature has been implemented. now the people making questions can supply a list of answers, seperated by commas, and any of one which can be used as a correct answer.

and i think I will show the answers. and when it comes time to make the scoreboard system, I will make a tougher version of the Play mode, with a small time limit (which means I will remove the time limit from normal Play mode). so if someone does abuse, they must be good and so deserve it, LOL.

just some thoughts. great suggestions guys! keep em coming!


edit: and I will work on the enter button response. FYI: it works in Opera with no code written by me. (I luv my opera)

Branden Ghena 11-08-2007 22:00

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Is there any way for us to go back and add answers to our questions now, or does that have to be done by you?

dez250 11-08-2007 22:01

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To add to the idea, you may want to be-able to add more answer to to the same question like Art mentioned. As for when it asks about a specific team, the answer of just inputting a team number may not be seen as correct if you were looking for their name or acronym or nickname etc...

charliet 11-08-2007 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tawnos23 (Post 638395)
Is there any way for us to go back and add answers to our questions now, or does that have to be done by you?

since everything is anonymous, I would have to do it. if you add the question again I will see it and take the proper action.

Tottanka 11-08-2007 22:44

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Actually i ment radio choice there, like 5-6 options.

Branden Ghena 11-08-2007 23:06

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Wouldn't that make the game too easy. I mean if this is going to be used for a contest at MARC it needs to have a good level of difficulty.

charliet 11-08-2007 23:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tawnos23 (Post 638401)
Wouldn't that make the game too easy. I mean if this is going to be used for a contest at MARC it needs to have a good level of difficulty.

just to clarify this is not just for MARC. and in fact, after discussion with someone today, we are taking the team social in a different direction.

i just made this for everybody in FIRST to enjoy cause I thought it was a cute idea that wouldnt be TOO hard to implement, and it gave me a chance to experiment with a new ajax lib i found.

so this is hopefully not a 1 time thing. i hope this grows and and be used at any event or place, for entertainment and fun.

and I am personally not a fan of the multiple choice idea.

but i am starting to consider the idea of various MODES. so one mode may be a multiple choice mode.

its all still new, so nothing is out the window. first thing first though, I need the data. you guys are doing great with suggestions and trivia, so keep it up!

Pat Fairbank 12-08-2007 11:41

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A couple of usability observations:
- The 'Next Question' button doesn't seem to work for skipping a question until the timer has reached zero (or until you hit the 'Answer' button to make it go to zero)
- It's kind of annoying to have to manually clear the text out of the answer box when you move on to a new question - it would be better if this happened automagically when you click 'Next Question'

Great work; this has the potential to be fun.

charliet 12-08-2007 17:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Fairbank (Post 638456)
A couple of usability observations:
- The 'Next Question' button doesn't seem to work for skipping a question until the timer has reached zero (or until you hit the 'Answer' button to make it go to zero)
- It's kind of annoying to have to manually clear the text out of the answer box when you move on to a new question - it would be better if this happened automagically when you click 'Next Question'

Great work; this has the potential to be fun.

duh, thanks. dunno how i forgot that stuff. implemented

--- changes ---
- took out the timer, it will come back later when I implement different Modes
- built in a system to prevent duplicate questions as much.
- some GUI changes were made to make things easier
- can now skip questions quickly

--- future ---
- different modes, with different limitations
-- modes will allow for a scoreboard system


thanks to all who are helping! keep up the great submissions and suggestions!

Tottanka 12-08-2007 18:50

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Just noticed at you only get one chance to answer a question correctly.
You might want to fix that one too, in one of the modes...

charliet 12-08-2007 18:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 638484)
Just noticed at you only get one chance to answer a question correctly.
You might want to fix that one too, in one of the modes...

hmm.. sounds good to me. ok, its implemented. now users can guess multiple times at a question until they get it right, or get fed up and can goto the next one.

http://www.charlieslab.com/trivia - if this things keeps up, I am also considering a domain purchase. feel free to suggest ideas there as well. thinking http://www.firsttrivia.org/

Tottanka 12-08-2007 20:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charliet (Post 638485)
hmm.. sounds good to me. ok, its implemented. now users can guess multiple times at a question until they get it right, or get fed up and can goto the next one.

http://www.charlieslab.com/trivia - if this things keeps up, I am also considering a domain purchase. feel free to suggest ideas there as well. thinking http://www.firsttrivia.org/


Dont hurry with the purchase. See how it works for a couple of weeks.

Keep te great work =]

charliet 12-08-2007 20:54

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Reporting is now fully functional. So if you come across a problem, some spam, or whatever, please go ahead and report it and I will see it and take whatever action is necessary to fix the problem.

Branden Ghena 12-08-2007 22:30

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This isn't anything big, but typos bug me.

When you submit a new question, the message in green along the top says, "Your question was submit." the same for the error message, "Your question was not submit."

In your Quick, VERB NOUN and VERB It On NOUN For Points! category you spell robotics robitics.

JackN 12-08-2007 22:41

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The game is pretty sweet, I really enjoy testing my FIRST smarts. I would like to know the answer to the one about what team's mascot is a flying pig, I tried both Exploding Bacon and 1902 and neither was right, so what is that answer. Also the one about who is the 1337est programmer I don't know.

Branden Ghena 12-08-2007 22:46

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If you check my picture, the flying pig answer should be easy, and the 1337est programmer is definitely Charles. He did make the game after all.

Tottanka 12-08-2007 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tawnos23 (Post 638515)
If you check my picture, the flying pig answer should be easy, and the 1337est programmer is definitely Charles. He did make the game after all.

Then who is the coolest one?

Branden Ghena 12-08-2007 22:52

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I posted the second question with multiple versions and capitalizations of Charles and Charlie before the new non-caps sensitive version started. Charles said he would delete repeat questions eventually.

The question I can't get is the team with the "brutal" 2 weeks System Engineering sessions. Its eating me up inside.

wendymom 13-08-2007 00:27

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[quote=JackN;638513]The game is pretty sweet, I really enjoy testing my FIRST smarts. I would like to know the answer to the one about what team's mascot is a flying pig, I tried both Exploding Bacon and 1902 and neither was right, so what is that answer. Also the one about who is the 1337est programmer I don't know.[/QUOT

Exploding bacon's mascot is a pig on a rocket......still a flying pig....just not one with wings!!!

AdamHeard 13-08-2007 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tawnos23 (Post 638517)
I posted the second question with multiple versions and capitalizations of Charles and Charlie before the new non-caps sensitive version started. Charles said he would delete repeat questions eventually.

The question I can't get is the team with the "brutal" 2 weeks System Engineering sessions. Its eating me up inside.

330.

What I don't like about this game has nothing to do with the software.... It seems like people are just tooting their own horn and being way too specific. Also, most questions are '07 based. Enough of those.... Let's get some REAL trivia in there (First champ winner, first 2 time champ, etc...) from at least before 2000.

EDIT: This question is getting me;
What team number was the first team to win 3 regionals

Is that in one year? 3 in total? What counts a regional (in the early early days)?

Dan Petrovic 13-08-2007 01:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 638533)
330.

What I don't like about this game has nothing to do with the software.... It seems like people are just tooting their own horn and being way too specific. Also, most questions are '07 based. Enough of those.... Let's get some REAL trivia in there (First champ winner, first 2 time champ, etc...) from at least before 2000.

EDIT: This question is getting me;
What team number was the first team to win 3 regionals

Is that in one year? 3 in total? What counts a regional (in the early early days)?

Edit: A more stylish answer than what I had before.

Look at the domain name of this forum. The answer is right there. :D

1998 they won 3 regionals.

Storcky 18-12-2007 22:18

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This is a lot of fun, but is there any way that the answer could be checked by hitting enter as well as answer? I keep losing my questions this way.
Thanks!

EricH 18-12-2007 22:47

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FireFox won't allow repeats of one question. Also, I can't figure out how to put multiple teams in one answer, as one question seems to require.

Joe J. 19-12-2007 09:35

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If you need additional questions feel free to use some of these.
FIRST Trivia V.1
FIRST Trivia V.2

They are from the trivia game I run for my team.

Spiffizzle 20-12-2007 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by charliet (Post 638377)
Ok, so let me give a back story before I get to the "juicy" stuff. I am in charge of the Team Social at the MARC event this weekend. Well, one idea that I came up with was a simple trivia game where the questions related to FIRST and such.. well I am no FIRST expert and neither is our team. We just don't have that experience yet, incluidng myself the most FIRST experienced member. So I said I would just go ask CD for some trivia. But then I thought about it more, and figured you guys might want to play the game as well!

I am open and kind of requesting suggestions here on how to improve the site and such. I dont expect it to be WIN on the first try. So let me know what I need to do.

I think this site is awesome...
At Battlecry at WPI, there was a social at which they asked questions about teams in that area... or FIRST people, or past games...
It was based on the spin of a spinner and one of the categories was karaoke, just for fun. :D

Just another idea you might want to consider.


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