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Heretic121 12-08-2007 00:56

Dean + Green Cars
 
Sorry if this was posted elsewhere but i found it very intriguing and thought it might be known what our lovable dean is trying to do now for the world!!! It's just one thing after another for this man =D

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/872/

CraigHickman 12-08-2007 00:59

Re: Dean + Green Cars
 
Woah! I think my respect for Dean just went up even more! (was that even possible?!)

vivek16 12-08-2007 01:13

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he did it again

Michael Hill 12-08-2007 02:52

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Yeah...his Hummer is REALLY eco-friendly...</sarcasm>

Smaug 12-08-2007 03:09

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why do all green cars or hybrids look so stupid? why dont they turn a a car that is all ready in production int a green car hybrid?

6600gt 12-08-2007 03:21

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Making the cars is not the problem, it's persuading the world to buy them.

All eco-friendly cars sacrifice one thing or another to make them environmentally friendly. You have to sacrifice something to gain something...

But most people don't want to sacrifice and still save the Earth. Something has got to give people!

Smaug 12-08-2007 03:31

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so its cheaper to make them look like the way they do then trying to produce the models that are being made?

Mr. Freeman 12-08-2007 06:16

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The current shapes of hybrids are more aerodynamic than most current production cars. I believe that the structure of hybrids is also made of lighter materials and the current non-hybrid designs either wouldn't be stable with the lighter materials or the chassis would weigh so much more that a more powerful engine would be needed to haul around what is effectively dead weight, which would defeat the point of a hybrid. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong here)

Schnabel 12-08-2007 10:50

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I do agree thought that they need to change the look of the car because there are a lot of cars out there (Cavalier for me) which look better yet still are very aerodynamic. I am sure that if the technology improves over time and the market grows, the look of the cars will improve too.

John Gutmann 12-08-2007 13:12

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Personally I liked the car in the Picture. If it came down to choosing a car by looks. I wouldn't mind having that one. Now as for functionality the only problem I would have is how small it is. I would have to get a trailer to drag my friends around.

artdutra04 12-08-2007 21:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smaug (Post 638437)
why do all green cars or hybrids look so stupid? why dont they turn a a car that is all ready in production int a green car hybrid?

You're right. No one can ever design a sexy electric car.

Tottanka 12-08-2007 21:18

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That is amazing. From day to day i admire Dean more and more. Does this man ever get sleep?


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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 638504)

Oh boy, that looks hot! Shame it's not famous enough.
I also like the name - "TESLA". Sounds nice, and very meaningfull too.

Ashley Weed 13-08-2007 08:32

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Dean's interaction with Th!nk was previously discussed here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=58302

CraigHickman 13-08-2007 15:38

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Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 638508)
Oh boy, that looks hot! Shame it's not famous enough.
I also like the name - "TESLA". Sounds nice, and very meaningfull too.

Oh, it's famous enough, just not in the circles of most of America. Being right near where they're designing these things, it's been neat to go there and get to see the project go from ideas on paper to working models. (Also, the Tesla's seats are REALLY comfortable. REALLY.)

Cynette 13-08-2007 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 638504)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tottanka (Post 638508)
Oh boy, that looks hot! Shame it's not famous enough.
I also like the name - "TESLA". Sounds nice, and very meaningfull too.

It might have something to do with the $98,000 base price as well. :ahh: We can buy a lot of ugly hybrids for that kind of money.

John Gutmann 13-08-2007 17:01

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Originally Posted by Cynette (Post 638605)
It might have something to do with the $98,000 base price as well. :ahh: We can buy a lot of ugly hybrids for that kind of money.

I think the 98,000$ price tag on the car might have to do with the fact that they are the only people that make a sporty electric car.

-John

dtengineering 14-08-2007 03:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Gutmann (Post 638617)
I think the 98,000$ price tag on the car might have to do with the fact that they are the only people that make a sporty electric car.

-John

Hey... why not do it yourself... it might not look like much, but it will turn the quarter mile faster than most anything street legal.

Jason

P.S. Why is everyone so excited about "Green Cars"... I like Red ones... they go faster....

P.P.S. If Dean can invent a car that is more efficient than my bicycle, then I really be impressed!

Alan Anderson 14-08-2007 09:27

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Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 638685)
P.P.S. If Dean can invent a car that is more efficient than my bicycle, then I really be impressed!

Even a typical car can be more "efficient" than walking, if what you're worried about is greenhouse gas emission. It's not a big leap to imagine that a sterling-engine-charged electric vehicle could be sufficiently more "efficient" that it betters a bicycle.

artdutra04 14-08-2007 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cynette (Post 638605)
It might have something to do with the $98,000 base price as well. :ahh: We can buy a lot of ugly hybrids for that kind of money.

Not many hybrids can match the performance or acceleration of a Lamborghini Murcielago, like the Tesla Roadster does. :p

John Gutmann 14-08-2007 16:38

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Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 638745)
Not many hybrids can match the performance or acceleration of a Lamborghini Murcielago, like the Tesla Roadster does. :p

here save some money buy it used......http://motors.search.ebay.com/lambor...00 QQsbrsrtZd

But for 98,000$ it is quite a bit better deal then the lambo.

-John

Qbranch 15-08-2007 12:27

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SWEET! Sterling Engines arent just for the tops of coffee mugs anymore! :D

...Hey where do I get one?

...And my question is... how do you 'start' your sterling-engine powered car if it runs on cow poop as mentioned in the article? :confused:

-q

CJV648 17-08-2007 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Smaug (Post 638437)
why do all green cars or hybrids look so stupid? why dont they turn a a car that is all ready in production int a green car hybrid?

Um, Maybe you haven't been paying attention. Honda Civic Hybrid, Ford Escape Hybrid, etc.....

Andrew Rudolph 20-08-2007 23:00

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I just got 2 links in my inbox from the IDSA 2 interesting articles including this sweet picture...


http://money.cnn.com/magazines/busin...8830/index.htm


http://blogs.business2.com/greenwomb...t-to-dean.html

Qbranch 21-08-2007 11:43

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So, question is, when will we see dean kamen's heat powered sterling/electric vehicles in the US? :confused:

-q

Protronie 22-08-2007 07:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbranch (Post 639464)
So, question is, when will we see dean kamen's heat powered sterling/electric vehicles in the US? :confused:

-q

I'd say about the time pigs fly...
Given the hoops a car has to jump through to to be legal on US roads...
and the fact that the oil companies have such power...

Keep dreaming! :ahh:

artdutra04 22-08-2007 10:05

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Why can't companies stop using their lawyers (to fight changes for the betterment of society on the whole), and just use their engineers to solve the problem? Is the money they spend on lawyer fees (and lobbying politicians) year after year, really less than what they would have spent on engineering a better solution?

Tottanka 22-08-2007 10:45

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If this idea could work out, and produced and mnufactured worldwide, it will be put as an invention of an importance about the same as the wheel and the lamp.
Dean Kamen is A-W-E-S-O-M-E .

Otaku 23-08-2007 12:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 638504)

That and the Wrightspeed Electric "Supercar" (That both myself and Brian saw at the Maker Faire, based off of the Ariel Atom) are pretty sexy cars.

The real problem, however, is when do you choose aesthetics over function? And that Brian still has a valid point -- Most hybrid/electric/new fuel cars DO look pretty strange.

Maybe it's just because these concepts are made by American designers. With the exception of a very few vehicles (one or two of which is originally based off of British design anyways), I'm not a huge fan of any cars designed by Americans. Most of them are hard on the eyes, personally.


Anywho, back on topic.

So, what is happing here is basically that Dean is changing the world AGAIN? Who woulda thunk it? ;)

Smaug 26-08-2007 03:57

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there is a company in la that is taking care that you would find on the street and turning them into all electric. if you mod the cars a little bit i am pretty sure there is enough room to make it hybrid.

Qbranch 28-08-2007 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaku (Post 639745)
I'm not a huge fan of any cars designed by Americans. Most of them are hard on the eyes, personally.

Uhmmm.... sure about that? Chevy Volt for release in early 2010, uses one of the new A123 systems nanotech lithium battery packs that are inhearantly safe thanks to their chemistry and the most energy dense batteries ever. Plus... the volts a looker too (back , front) And no, with the amount of money GM is pouring in this project, I don't think it will be just another dead concept.

My take... I WANT ONE! :yikes:

-q

Libby K 28-08-2007 21:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbranch (Post 639464)
So, question is, when will we see dean kamen's heat powered sterling/electric vehicles in the US? :confused:

-q

Hopefully very soon. I've seen a Th!nk, and the car is equipped with everything it needs to have for US safety regulations, as far as I could tell...It's also gotten the highest crash test ratings possible. Seems like the only problem should be getting the Sterling/Electric to work really, really well. (Not like we should expect anything less from the Dean and the folks over at DEKA.:p )


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