SCRRF Fall Classic Official Thread
 

After much labor on the part of many the Fall Classic is finally coming together.

Here are the details:

Date: Sepember 29, 2007

Times: Doors Open 8am
Competition Starts 9am
Elimination Rounds - start will be adjusted to account for the
number of teams participating
Awards End 4:30pm

Location:
1028 Artesia Blvd, Hermosa Beach, CA 90254 (the old Albertsons building at Pacific Coast Hwy and Artesia)

Cost: $200

send Registration to :
LeRoy Nelson
SCRRF Treasurer
1457 3rd Street
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266-6335
(310) 937-7226

No Charge for Pre-Rookie Teams

Note: if you are having trouble getting the money please contact us, we might be able to work out an in-kind contribution.

Food: Will be sold on-site, details TBD

Questions? chusmann@earthlink.net or 310 947-5509

We need a minimum of 12 teams and can accomodate up to 32.

Hosted by Team 330, The BeachBots and Team 294, Beach Cities Robotics

Special Feature: SCRRF has more carpet than we can easily store. Rather than throw the excess away we want to make it available to teams. Sign up in advance for a 7.5'x7.5', 7.5'x15', or 15'x15' piece. Sections will be premarked and cut during the teardown. TEAMS ARE RESPONSIBLE TO TRANSPORT THE CARPET THEMSELVES.

See you there!

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Since it's being held at an old Albertson's, how are the pits going to be?

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It's been gutted completely. The field will be in the center, and the pits on the sides. There is more than enough room.

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Oh okay, I figured it would be open like that.
Hopefully our team can make it.

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The pits will be where the cherries, peaches, and plums were sold.:rolleyes:

Well, only some of them. The official word is, all around the outside of the field. (Which includes the old produce section.)

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We have room for 31 10'x10' pits around three sides. The Beachbots can use their shop, which is in the old warehouse area, so they don't need one. That leaves the front clear for Registation, food sales, etc.

We still need to do some work to finish cleaning things up, but the demolition work is done.

We will be working on Saturday 8/25 from 9am-5pm

The big jobs that are left are:

1) Finishing cleaning up the floor. We need hoses and wet/dry vacums for that. Be sure the vacuums are set up for wet work.

2) There are a couple of areas we need to wall off. Power drills with screw bits are the tool of choice here. We need lots of screws so you probably want to bring a drill with a cord. The materials should be waiting for us by the time we get there.

3) To help smooth out the floor we need to lay a bunch of masonite sheets in the are the field will be. We just have to haul them out and lay them down.

4) There are a couple of places where electric wires that used to go into the shelf units are hanging down. Those need to be cut off near the ceiling and the ends secured. I think we have the tools for this, including a 15' ladder

If we have a crew the size we had last week we should be done well before the official quiting time of 5pm.

If we don't get it done we will continue on the 8th of September.

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Fall Classic Progress

Remember Registration is now open. Send your $200 entry fee to :

LeRoy Nelson
SCRRF Treasurer
1457 3rd Street
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266-6335
(310) 937-7226

We need 12 teams to sign up before Sept 24 to make this a go.

We made some major progress yesterday thanks to the guys from Teams 980 and 597.

The faux walls are framed and ready for covering. That should only take a couple of hours now that the framing is up. The electrical stuff has all been secured.

Many manhours were spent on cleaning the floor. While it is better we still have a long way to go. Professional expertise may be needed. If you know somebody who can help pleaase refer them to me.

We are also looking for someone to fly up to San Jose and help drive the field down. If you are interested, at least 18 years old, and male, let me know. Sorry ladies, the other driver is a guy. The possibilites for trouble are too great with a mixed crew.

Our next work day is Sept 8th from 9-5pm. All are welcome.

Chris

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Chris, we plan on going. Just sent an email to the team. We would come and help just the distance makes it hard, and school just started 2 weeks ago for us, so we are scrambling to get the team organized where the whole team is on the same page. We are planning on going, so, check should be in soon.

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Eric,
We understand the distance issue. In some parts of New England the distance you need to travel would take you out of state. Your team also hosted last year and will be doing an FTC event later in the year. Nobody can claim 599 doesn't have community spirit.

I will be looking for help the day of the event. If you can spare a few bodies for reset, cueing, or cleanup that will be enough.

I should mention that this has been a great opportunity for the South Bay teams and some others that don't have a traditional school facility to demonstrate their community spirit. Thanks again to 330, 294, 597, Chadwick, El Segundo and 980, for your continuing help in getting ready.

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Thanks for the kind words. Anyways, if I am not driving, I definitely want to volunteer. Ill bring up volunteering to the team to see if anyone will do it. No promises, but I hope I can get a good amount of people. Should be exciting.

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Can someone send an email blast to the SCRRF group with updated info?

We just wrote out our check to process through the school for the event. Hope to see a lot of teams there.

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Will there be a webcast?

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Which teams have signed-up and paid the registration fee for the Fall Classic?

So far, I'm sure the team list includes:

294
330
599
980

Just chime in if your team is attending!!

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294 will probably be fielding two robots.

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Are there any more words on how many teams are attending?

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1538 will be bringing one robot.

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The Sept. 13 issue of the SCRRF Newsletter reports the following teams indicating they will be there:

Team 0294 Beach Cities Robotics co-host
Team 0330 BeachBots, co-host,
Team 0599 RoboDocs
Team 0980 Thunderbots
Team 0981 Fraizer Mountain Robotics
Team 1070 Royal Robotrons
Team 1138 Eagle Engineering
Team 1538 The Holy Cows
Team 1752 Stars]
Team 2029 Chadwick School

Teams that are still deciding
Team 0968 RAWC
Team 1515 MorTorq
Team 1678 Davis High

How many more teams have committed since Sept. 13??

This is a great opportunity to introduce new students, schools and sponsors to FIRST. We expect to play a lot of matches and allow our new drivers to get a workout. Maybe there'll be a couple of mentor rounds???

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This is great news. Look forward to seeing all these robots this Saturday. Oh yeah, by the way, I am coming ;).

-Ken L

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Currently we are scraping together the last few dollars of our entrance fee, but it looks like we will have it.

I wanted to see if there was any desire for us to bring our practice bot for a rookie team to drive/play with/potentially compete with? With enough notice (before early afternoon tomorrow) we could have it up and running.

Let us know if that is something that would be beneficial. Obviously we wouldnt be driving it ourselves and wouldnt be able to pay for the second entrance fee, but if it is something that people would like us to do (to add to the total number of teams, or just for the rookies to play with) we'd be happy to bring it.

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Will it be 3 vs. 3 or 2 vs 2? What will finals be like?

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I think that's a great idea.

Team 980 could bring last year's bot to give pre-rookies something to drive around, maybe play a little defense and get up on the ramp...

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Due to the small number of teams, bring any robot you are willing to run. Just be sure you bring lots of batteries too! Remember, previous years batteries are legal. BeachBots might have their practice bot running too and I know 294 is planning to bring an experimental 'bot.

All I ask is that you be prepared to keep all robots entered running the entire event. (At least until Eliminations)

To answer David's question: Right now we are planning to run 2 v 2. If we ran 3 v 3 we would have to run teams with back to back matches every match. But if we get enough second robots we might change that.

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Oh, its Robodox, not Robodocs. For reference. Anyways, Ill be in charge of queuing. Hope everyone is ready for the event. Hope it a good one.

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Team 980's bringing last year's robot, but we're not going to have the shooter active (wouldn't want it to rain on the field)!

Maybe there'll be an opportunity for mentors to drive? We can always use a humbling experience in front of our students to prove how human we are...

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I wasn't there, but here is the information that I got:

Rankings:
1. 330
2. 968 #1
3. 968 #2
4. 980 #2
5. 597
6. 1138
7. 980 #1
8. 1538
9. 599
10. 981
11. 1070
12. 294

Alliances:

1. 330, 968 #1, 981
2. 968 #2, 1138, 1538
3. 980 #2, 980 #1, 1070
4. 597, 599, 294

Eliminations:

#1 beat #4
#2 beat #3
#1 beat #2

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I just wanted to send out a few Thank Yous

First to Team 294 and Team 330 for partnering to host the event. Team 330 has recently been blest with the use of a very large facility, but they are a small team. There is no way they could run their robot and host a competition without help.

The facility we used, while large, required a great deal of cleanup to get it ready for the competition. Teams 597 and 980 came and helped with getting the facility ready. Their presence and willingness to jump in were a great encouragement to me. The Hope Chapel leadership also asked me to convey their thanks for your helping with the rennovation project. It should be complete in time for the Pre-Ship Scrimmage.

Special thanks to NASA Ames for the loan of the field, Ken Leung and Krystine Throughman for driving it down to us (9 hours in a truck each way!) and Team 1538 for providing the plexiglas (and driving two hours each way to do so!). The WRRF control system worked great.

Team 1070 provided the music and Team 599 handled cueing and field re-set.

Individuals that deserve special recognition include:

Cindy of 294 and Richard and Dakota of 330 who together mopped most of the 20,000 sqft of the competition area the night before. This was a thankless job that much improved the environment.

Dave Drennon allowed us to use his personal sound system. Terry Wells handled the field control system. Jon Jack and Ken Leung acted as refs. LeRoy Nelson and Marni Hagar did scoring. Andrea Wagner made the awards and ran local publicity in addition to running 294. Eric and Yulia from 599 ran cueing and Reset respectively and did an excellent job.

A few numbers:

Ten teams were represented by 12 robots

We ran 2 practice matches, 27 Qualifying Matches and 6 Elimination matches betweem 9:30am and 4:03pm. Compared to a Regional this doesn't sound like much. However, each team took the field a minimum of 10 times. So they got a Regional's worth of play in a few hours.

The best part was locking the door to the building at 5:06pm with the field re-loaded on the truck and the room cleaned out. Thanks to all the people who helped with the teardown and re-packing. Nobody from Hope Chapel, which owns the building, really believed we would be gone before the 6pm service.

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As we know, the control system was not entirely without incident,
these being problems that surfaced in the design of the system.
The WRRF would like to thank the SCRRF for giving it a workout,
the control system will be that much more bullet proof for the
Cal Games event as a result.

Regards,
Eugene

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Hey it worked great while it lasted. The blue side functioned throughout the event and even working in a limited fashion it greatly simplified radio channel assignment. Once you figure out the bugs we might want to build one of our own, if you make the plans available.

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hey, i just wanted to know if anyone has any pictures/videos of the event?

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I don't, I was too busy. :D

But I know that team 1515 was there with a full camera crew ( their robot smoked itself a day or two before so they weren't competing ) and 1138 also had somebody taking pictures. They are supposed to get some to me. Hopefully this will be a reminder to them!

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Pictures can be found on our gallery at http://gallery.rawc.net/Robotics07/fallclassic/

Or you can grab the photos directly from http://sivart.org/Fall%20Classic/

Most of these pics are of our team/alliance, but there are quite a few hundred to browse through if interested!