Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

The feed was great, but if i could make a small request, could you guys not put the over drive splash screen up every chance you get, that would be great. Tis a great feed, the qualitiy is great and the music is good, too. But, it would be cool to see some of the action on the field, such as switching robots and what the announcer does between matches, etc.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Agreed, overall they have conducted the regional well. My only request in some ACDC!!:cool:

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Its a shame we weren't able to head down there again this year, but one of our alumni may be volunteering (he goes to Clemson). If you see someone with a volunteer badge that says "Alex Hulette," I'd appreciate it if you could tell him I said hi and that we went with the crazy-fast arm design.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

I just got back from the team social. It was awesome. I went to eat, and then bowled a couple games. Went right in and found an empty lane. Also very short and fast moving lines for food. There was a wide variety of food at the dining hall. Other regionals need to take notes from this one! Great job by the planning committee. What did the rest of you think?:rolleyes: (the ones that went)

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I whole-heartedly agree. The team social was a blast! Many of the FLASH members had a great time bowling.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

good to see 1251 at the top-#2 seed

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

wahoo TECHTIGERS!!!!
How is 665 Mayhem doing?
All your Florida Buddies are pullling for you

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

665 is seeded 30th right now. They were 2-6-0 today, not doing so well but you never know how the third day will turn out. They have 2 more matches tomorrow morning.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

I'm too old to know about the Flat Stanley project, but for those of you who do , Flat Stanley is scheduled to be riding our robot this morning. Man he gets around!

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Yeah, we are ranked 30th, but we're happy with our performance so far. We can hurdle pretty consistently, and we're working better than we did at FL where we were seeded 17th, we've just run into a bit of bad luck with alliance partners tipping and the like. Plus we won Innovation in Controls, so that's a bonus for us.

-Greg P.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional... video feed between matches
 

I'll take this feedback in with me this morning and see if we can get more team shots and changeover action into the feed.

For those of you who cannot be there live, it is the best regional I have ever been to. With only 36 teams, we are running 10 matches per team and everyone is getting to know everyone else.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

anybody know what's going on with the webcast??????

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

wow
clemson + quicktime = epic fail

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

you're right

by the way sorry for the loss you guys are awesome

I can't believe it got cut off again

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Anybody has an update for us from Palmetto? The webcast doesn't seem to work.

I would like to know how team 1251 is doing. Thanks.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

go to http://gameday.soap108.com/

and click Palmetto on the top bar and you can click matches and rankings to get the info.

they seeded 3rd, washed out in the semifinals.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

On behalf of team 1251, I would like to extend a congratulations to the winning alliance of 386, 1758 and 2183 (i believe that was the team sorry if I got it wrong). You guys were an excellent alliance, I just wish our robot's elevator was functioning for the remainder of our semi final matches with them.

Also congrats to 342, 343 and 393/804, you all had a great run, I thought you woulda had it.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

It's a little interesting to be the spectator at Palmetto for once. After waking up around 5:20 to get to Clemson in time, my girlfriend and I bore witness to some crazy matches (perhaps to match the crazy decor--orange and purple, really? ;))

First, thanks to Donn Griffith for completely blowing my cover this morning in the pits. :rolleyes:

Big ups, of course, to our districtmates at 1398 on their second Chairman's win. They have figured something out. (When they were reading the award, Keenan had figured it out already. They were having to whack themselves with pillows to keep in check. Energetic much?)

Further ups to 386, 1758, 2483, 342, 343, and 804/393 for what may well be the most epic battle I've seen in five years in the finals. Whoever recorded the feed has to get this series on TBA; it was that intense from the stands.

Much respect to anyone whose robot is still working. This year was living proof that the alliance that lasts the longest gets the gold.

Thanks, of course, to all the old friends I crossed paths with of varying geography. (If I was just here for the robots, I'd have watched the webcast. It's the people that get me to drive 250 miles in a day.)

A shout-out to Looking Forward, who was in the building today if pit admin was to be believed. Hope you were impressed.

And, lastly, a pause for applause for Mike Bryan of 342 who is moving up I-26 to the Upstate in the near future. Mike was their team leader from the start, and whatever he's done is working--year-in and year-out, 342 is a top-notch team. Upstate teams, I think it's now recruiting season. ;)

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Close, it was 2483.
I had a great time at Palmetto. Wish we would have won, but too many things going wrong (gremlins). Great finals matches (4 of them). I have to give a huge shout out to the Palmetto Regional Chairman's award winner, Team 1398, the Robo-Raiders. Awesome job guys. I hope to see everyone again next year, if not in Atlanta.

The Looking Forward announcement was my idea of a prank, but it really got people looking all around.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Well I finally made it to a regional in person.
Someone...I'll be nice and not point them out said the weather should be fine... if the engineer thing don't work out you have a future as a weatherman.
But thanks to the rain my work was rained out and I was only a hundred or so miles away so... managed to get there just in time for the semi-finals :D
To anyone thats never been to the event in person... the webcast do NOT do justice to actually being there and feeling the vibe.
What a show! From what I've been told Champs is even more exciting and fun.
To the folks that put together the Palmetto and run it I say thanks.
I've seldom have enjoyed a free event as much as a FIRST event! :D
Great job folks.
To 2483, 386, & 1758... congrats on winning the gold.
Was awesome seeing a team from NC winning! :cool:

As a side note; Yeah I have in the past expressed a slightly negative view of the dancing that goes on at these regionals, and had no plans of becoming one of the bad dancers but... well the excitement was just too hard to resist and before I knew what was happening I was joining in with the crowd in the stands. :ahh:
Also... I just like to say how impressed and I will admit surprised how welcoming and polite the people (students and adults) were there.
I heard no swearing, no bragging or thrash talking that can be often heard at any highschool sporting event one might go to.
Instead the few pits I stopped at didn't mind an outsider checking out there robots and were eager to answer a question or show off a feature of their robot and didn't mind breaking it down so a Protronie could understand.
My hat is off to all the teams and officials that put on such an interesting and exciting event. :cool:

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

1251...it happens =/

All other teams, i wish i could have watched =(
I was watching Bayou lol. But i kept hearing great things from the chatroom. Hope team 11 can come down next year and join you guys once again :)

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

That was the most intense finals I've ever been in!!343 and 804, thank you so much for playing with us; by no means did you let us down. Big congrats to 2483, 386, & 1758. I really would have liked to had 386 on our alliance, but it is no wonder would they didn't last. great job guys. Between your auton. , defense, and laps, you guys took away our thunder( ok, bad humor).

Like Drake said, all the gremlins came out during the finals. 342 lost the ground going to the distribution block and had problems clamping it back because of a striped screw. 343's limit switch malfunctioned, bring their arm up in auton. I almost find it funny, we are built very similarly to 1726 and we faced the same fate as them:rolleyes: But despite my whining, 2483, 386, & 1758 won completely fair and with great displays GP.

A note to LookingForward: don't be so quick to right off Palmetto as anything but intense and exciting.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

"OTTO" would like to say congrats to all the teams - we had a great time and look forward to next year! We love that South Carolina hospitality.

Excellent regional, well run and organized.

Clemson is an OUTSTANDING host! Team social was fantastic.

Once we got used to 'em, we even kinda liked the "cozy" pits!

See you guys next year!!!

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

OMG that competition was so intense I think i had like 5 heart attacks.....The team work was as fierce as ever in the finals. I would like to congrat the alliance of 342,393/804, and 343 those where some close matchs that I realy dont even think you lost. You were a hard alliance to beat and we hope to see you in alanta for sure. And to the other teams that were in the competition We want to congrat everybody because you all did your best and next time we go agaisnt you we hope that every match is as intense as the last time :D.


Ps: The teams in the Qf and the Sf you were also a great team and want to say that you did great no matter what anybody says :D O and one team never makes a team great it is the TEAMWORK that 386 and 1758 did with strategy and helping to make the best out of every situation.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Team 2430 would like to say congratulation to team 281 for winning the GP award. Without them our team would not be were we are at right now. They truly deserve this award; we were honored to have them our alliance partner.

We would also like to thank Clemson and the volunteers for hosting such a wonderful event. Our first regional was awesome because of what they have done.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Team 1249 would like to congratulate all teams on a great competition. We enjoyed the weekend and especially team 1251 our neighors in the close pit area. Special thanks for our alliance partners 1319, and 2187. You guys were great to play with and who can forget the 5 match first round. Already to pack up and go home then return to the field for another match. Two more lines and we would have been in the finals. Thanks again and see you next year.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

i would like to thank everyone for making palmetto a great regional, once again, this year. the amount of competition was great! and thanks to 342, and 804/393. we had a great run guys! sry we couldn't quite get ya'll all the way 342...

congrads to 386, 2483, and 1748! we had fun battling you! it was an exciting final! hope to see ya'll in atlanta!

-ziggy

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Are there any video archives of the finals? They seem to be pretty intense matches and i just happened to miss them.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Ya, I was there... well driving the robot there. and I would like to see some video. Not just of 1261, but others. I was in the pit most of the time so I never really got to see some of the other bots in action! If anyone can provide video for the Palmetto Regional, then you will be amazing.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Does anyone have a complete listing of the elimination match results? What I have been able to find does not list the ties. This was an awesome set of elimination matches. Congratulations to all that competed!

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I have Finals video! Unfortunately it is in quicktime and filmed from the robocoach station. I do think I have a couple videos filmed from the front row. If anyone can show me a good MOV to AVI convector (or some usable formate for windows editor) I can post all but one or two matches.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

1319 would like to thank 1249 for picking us to go into battle with. 2187 was also a great alliance partner. We gave it our all in taking it to 3 matches in the semi finals, although it was not as many as the five quarter finals matches. Our robots held up through all of these matches, and if things had fallen a little more in our favor I am sure the three of us would have lasted until the very end.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

First of all, a big thank you to the volunteers that made the event a success.

I would like to give a special thank you to our alliance partners; 845 and 1270. It was fun to revive the 2005 Florida Alliance. Sorry we couldn't go all the way. 845 your robot was a great hurdler and your hybrid mode was impressive. 1270 you guys were able to accommodate to different strategies, the best second round pick in my opinion.

Unfortunately during Semi-final match two, one of the Banebot Planetary gearboxes that drive our elevator binded. A six minute time-out jusy wasn't enough time to fix it, forcing us to do just laps. This event has thought us many lessons and we are glad that it happened here and not at the Championship event.

Congratulations to the winning alliance. 2483, 386 and 1758. You guys deserve it. We were so happy that 386 was in the winning alliance, you guys were a great help during the whole event. Team Voltage saw that we had a small team at the event, so before our matches they gave us scouting sheets on our opponents. You guys are awesome and you deserve the win.

I would also like to thank team 1249 and 1319 for being the great neighbors. Both of this teams provided us with parts, materials and tools. Thank you so much.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Gene. The scoring computer replaces the ties with the score of the replayed match, so there is no archive of those scores. As I remember, the first Quarterfinal between Alliance 4 and Aliance 5 was a 72-72 tie (I am sure of the match, but not of the score), and the first Finals match was a 52-52 tie (this one I am sure of the score).

There was only 1 tie in the quals. Match 18
11:48 AM 18 RED (2430 1466 1225) BLUE (1876 2187 2483) tied with 28 pts


Thanks for the GREAT job managing the Alliance Selection.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

[quote=team1102a;727763]and the first Finals match was a 52-52 tie (this one I am sure of the score).QUOTE]

I recall a 70-70 tie in the finals as well. Is my memory failing?

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Yes, www.thebluealliance.net. Search team 386, 1251, 342, and or 1319 for all the different elimination matches.

Edit: but it doesn't show the ties either. Sorry

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

[quote=Gene F;727766]No you are correct. There were 2 ties in the Finals. Match 1 was a 52-52 tie, and Match 3 was a 70-70 tie.

Thanks to all of the Volunteers at the Palmetto Regional; we had a great time. Thanks especially to 2483 and 1758, our amazing alliance partners. Also, I would like to congratulate 342, 343, and 393/804 for an amazing set of Finals matches. From all of the matches I've seen on video over the past 3 years, I've never seen 2 ties in a set of Finals. I hope to see you at Nationals or next year.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

I've been waiting to post to see if everyone was happy with the event, because I can tell you that everyone down by the field, the scorekeepers, refs, MC, and Announcer were THRILLED beyond description at the entire event.

This was my 4th year as announcer and I thought I had seen it all, until Saturday. Like an earlier poster said, we about had 5 heart attacks watching the speed, endurance, energy agility, maturity, and strength of the robots AND team members.

The circumstances that necessitated rematch in the semis was the toughest call I have ever seen made at a regional. In retrospect, running the rematch is supported by rule T16 which says a rematch is warranted whenever an event occurs that affects game play or score caused by the field, equipment… or field personnel. A scoring error clearly falls under this rule. But if the scoring computer program is well written, it should have disallowed any ball bonus score over 24 points, making the possibility of a 4 ball score impossible. We did not know at the time and still do not know if that type of data validation is present in the scoring system. With no paper score sheets, and a rule against video review of play, there was no choice but to rerun it.

The reason I bring up the situation is because I was so impressed by the patience and reaction of all the observers through delay and the ups and downs and uncertainty. Talk about Gracious Professionalism, WOW!

All of the goals of FIRST were met or exceeded by this bunch of folks who got together last weekend in Clemson. We might have arrived as strangers, but we all left as best friends. There was no foe or opponent. There was no win or lose. Sure there is the thrill of victory for the highest score, and some teams were more successful than others. But we all came together for a common goal.

There is nothing worse as a volunteer coming away from an event with a bad taste. On the other hand, there is nothing better than coming away with the elation we felt seeing the defeated teams cheering on the survivors, and seeing the students agonize with SMILING FACES when their robots deployed arms early, tipped over, or failed to deliver the extra 2 points at the buzzer.

These memories and lessons learned will last a lifetime.

Congrats to everyone!

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

[quote=dilbert;727771][quote=Gene F;727766]
No you are correct. There were 2 ties in the Finals. Match 1 was a 52-52 tie, and Match 3 was a 70-70 tie.

From all of the matches I've seen on video over the past 3 years, I've never seen 2 ties in a set of Finals.QUOTE]

Thanks for clearing that up. From 4 to 5:30 is a big blur in my memory. It was quite intense for everybody. Team 343 has the tapes. I can't wait to see them.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Our 5 match quarter-final w/ 1319 and 2187 was maybe the craziest set of matches I had ever seen until the finals. Except for the chain on our arm slipping in one of the quarter-final matches, I don't think there were any other mechanical problems with the alliance.

1319 and 2187 were awesome alliance partners. 2187 made 9 laps in the quarter-final match we tied, and 1319 kept the ball in the air all afternoon. They made us look good.

The competition was great with a lot of great 'bots. I think that shows in the close scores in the elimination rounds.

Hope to see everyone next year.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

I just want to thank everybody for a great regional. Everyone there was friendly, helpful, and just great...plus it was in Clemson, and you can't get much better than being right next door to Death Valley!

Big thanks to 1251, and 1270 for being such a great alliance. I know I'm just a college student mentor, but 845 means as much to me now as it did when i was a student. I didn't see a team there that didn't have an impressive design in some way. These teams shouldn't be ashamed of a thing..even if they didn't win anything, they went to a regional and acted in a highly respectable manner, with an awesome machine, and had a great time while doing it.

Gotta shout out to 342 and 343 as well, excellent designs, and ya'll played some great matches there in the finals.

-Jay

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

:) Thank you very much. Shout out right back at you. 845 really stepped it up when 1251 had the lifter problems! I love playing with you guys. One of your drivers and I have a long history racing dragsters and that rivalry;) showed Thursday during the exhibition match. If if wasn't for 1251's elevator breaking, I defiantly would have expected to see yall in the finals.
Could you pm me your driver's email?

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

I thought this was a great regional and it was a tough one. 343 and 342 had problems with not only there bots but the alliance bots they were with but it was all good. congrats to the winners. Thanks for every team making this a good regional

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Congrats to everyone who won! Everyone who supported team 1758 and the teams who picked us!! Good Luck to everyone whos going to Nationals and see you there!:D

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Jay!!! nice to see you back on chiefdelphi buddy your getting FIRST now. See thats why I stay around too. The palmetto regional was a lot of fun and despite not winning 1251 still had a good time. Everyone at this regional did a great job thanks for making it possible. Cuttingredtigers!!! Oh yeah keep having the event at Clemson 1251 enjoyed the reception there haha :yikes:. Congratulations to the winners and finalist, you guys put on a good show. Finally to 1398 congratulations on yet another chairmans.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Congrats 1398 on the Chairman's Award, you guys worked hard for it, and much thanks to 2483 and 386, we couldn't have done it without you guys. Here's hoping we'll be able to work together at the Nationals.

The regional started out sorta down for us, it's good we finally got everything working before the finals... good job to everyone there, you played great.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

This year's regional was one of greatest for our team. We're a VERY small team. Probably no more than 10 dedicated students worked on our bot and only 4 attended the regional. Reaching the finals was a FIRST for our team.

I would like to thank the Forsyth Alliance (1746) and M'Aiken Magic (1102) for picking us to be on your alliance. We had fun battling those epic 5 matches in one double elimination round against the same alliance. :D

Speaking for our team and mentors, it really meant a great deal to them to get picked and go onto the finals.

Thanks again and we're looking forward to seeing everyone at the Palmetto regional again next year!

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

What team is Clyde Ward from?

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Clyde Ward is a founding mentor from 1102 Maiken Magic.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Now that everyone has had some time to recover from the busy build and competition season, the Regional Planning Committee would like to here from YOU! Please take a few minutes to answer a couple of questions about the Palmetto Regional.

1. What worked, what did you like best?
2. What didn't work, how can we make it better for next year?

Thanks for your input.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

Coming in on Saturday as a spectator, I did appreciate the gratuitous amounts of parking around the arena. (I'll give them a pass on the traffic flow because of the race going on in the area.) The exterior banners were also a nice touch.

On the down side, the arena floor plan left the event with fewer teams and even less space for them. Aside from the tight surroundings in the pit for both teams and spectators, it also felt like it harmed the depth of the event compared with years past. FRC is not about the robots, but the robots are the hook. The problem, of course, is how do you fit more teams into that arena--I'm not sure if you can without things getting a little intense (or, rather, in-tents).

What felt like a wash to me was the staircases to the floor. They were good for catching safety glasses, but the traffic flow felt awkward. A little more signage at the concourse level might help there.

Re: 2008 Palmetto Regional
 

i thought that palmetto went great except for my team flipping and losing in the finals but other than that it all went congrats to the winners