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dlavery 28-11-2007 19:23

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by M. Krass (Post 654217)
I want to see y'all try to get something like that through security at an airport. ;)

Been there, done that... ;)


(and you DON'T want to know what I have in my carry-on suitcase right now, while I am sitting in the Cleveland Airport) (trust me)

-dave

Madison 28-11-2007 19:36

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 654238)
Been there, done that... ;)


(and you DON'T want to know what I have in my carry-on suitcase right now, while I am sitting in the Cleveland Airport) (trust me)

-dave


...and we're off.

(Maybe I'm a bit jumpy after my laptop set off the bomb-sniffing machine at JFK four times last night. I know it's dirty, but sheesh.)

RyanN 28-11-2007 19:44

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 654238)
Been there, done that... ;)


(and you DON'T want to know what I have in my carry-on suitcase right now, while I am sitting in the Cleveland Airport) (trust me)

-dave

Could it be the complete manual for the 2008 game? Oh boy! Oh boy!
Or maybe it's a Popular Mechanics magazine, a Robots magazine, or a Servo magazine.
Or the remote control for your "Other car"
Or it may just be an empty carry-on suitcase to put stuff in later.

Just kidding... I can wait another month for the new game (I hope). I'm pumped and ready to start. I'm getting more sleep and doing my homework whenever I can in preparation for the new season.

alex1699 28-11-2007 20:01

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by Libby K (Post 647691)
Seriously guys, check the flowchart. Jeez. :p (only kidding.)

doesnt say hamster hmmm...

Sam N. 28-11-2007 20:20

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
pre-build season giddyness... I love it!

Richard Wallace 28-11-2007 20:30

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by ewankoff (Post 647566)
i think these would be an awesome game piece.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/22847

So, just for fun I built one, using 3" schedule 40 PVC (non-pressure rated) and standard caps. Overall assembled length is 10" and it weighs ~1.5 lb. Inside I placed a 2.188" diameter steel ball, taken from one of the largest ball bearings that Emerson uses. The ball also weighs ~1.5 lb. (Don't expect to get them cheap -- motors that use that size ball are rated for 4000 horsepower and stand about fifteen feet tall. Production quantities are small relative to most FRC components.) So the total weight is about 3 lb. and the center of gravity shifts about six inches when the ball rolls from one end to the other.

As you can easily imagine, the weighted capsule is unwieldy! Grab it in the middle, tilt it slightly, and it will torque your wrist. Holding it level is a challenge.

A diabolical gamepiece if ever there was one. :cool:

vivek16 28-11-2007 21:17

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
@ Richard

can you say scooper bots?

-vivek

Graham Donaldson 28-11-2007 21:44

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
Yeah, but wait until the robot stops short and inertia keeps all the balls moving...

There go the game pieces! :)

dlavery 28-11-2007 22:55

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 654261)
So, just for fun I built one, using 3" schedule 40 PVC (non-pressure rated) and standard caps. Overall assembled length is 10" and it weighs ~1.5 lb. Inside I placed a 2.188" diameter steel ball, taken from one of the largest ball bearings that Emerson uses. The ball also weighs ~1.5 lb.

Of course, if the ball were made of tungsten, it would weigh about 3.809 pounds - about 2.5 times as much as the container itself. The dynamic properties of such an object would be .... interesting.

-dave

FourTwoNineZero 28-11-2007 23:03

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
First team to put all the mini Dean Kamen statues on the mini Segways wins!

Richard Wallace 28-11-2007 23:22

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 654296)
Of course, if the ball were made of tungsten, it would weigh about 3.809 pounds - about 2.5 times as much as the container itself. The dynamic properties of such an object would be .... interesting.

Interesting indeed. Such an object would stand nearly upright with the ball in the rounded PVC endcap. It might even walk a little ways, end-over-end, when pushed. Like a large "Mexican Jumping Bean," to recall a popular toy from decades ago.

However, FIRST is unlikely to build such objects in quantity. Ingots of tungsten are going for about $13/lb these days. Worked into balls, the cost per pound would go a bit higher.

Hmm. Highly unstable, heavy objects being manipulated by FRC robots? Autonomously? :eek:

Taylor 29-11-2007 08:10

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 654302)
Hmm. Highly unstable, heavy objects being manipulated by FRC robots? Autonomously? :eek:

We've been doing that with Freshmen for years.

Daniel_LaFleur 29-11-2007 08:31

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 654296)
Of course, if the ball were made of tungsten, it would weigh about 3.809 pounds - about 2.5 times as much as the container itself. The dynamic properties of such an object would be .... interesting.

-dave

... and so it begins.

vic burg 29-11-2007 11:55

Re: 2008 FIRST game
 
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Originally Posted by FourTwoNineZero (Post 654298)
First team to put all the mini Dean Kamen statues on the mini Segways wins!

That would be a lot fun!!!!
But how would FIRST make them is the question....

a robot has to build a cube shape with 'breakable' poles (like what you use to put up a tent) but the claws are limited to only 3 'fingers'. The alliances can work together.... but only in autonomous. and of course, the human player can hand the robot the poles but that's it....

i like my idea.....
yeah.....
lol

sorry but, magnet showcase last night until 9 o'clock and pre-season jitters are NOT good when combined together:eek:

Jevin H 29-11-2007 14:01

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I like the football idea but 6 aside robot and human player(with alot of padding) football


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