2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 9
 

Byes: Chicago, Miami, New York Giants, and St. Louis
There goes (at least) 2 easy points for everybody...

Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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With a score of 56 so far, with around a 60% average with no football knowledge I have been able to do well. I have seen less than 30 minutes of football and that 30 minutes has been pretty much news higlights and some Texans kickoffs and returns. Week 9 predictions:

Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

I hope houston, dallas, minnesota, and denver can perform this week... *sigh*

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
I wonder where Rudi will play next year....
San Francisco at Atlanta
Everybody beats ATL
Denver at Detroit
37-34
Green Bay at Kansas City
I still don't see KC as a valid threat this year.
San Diego at Minnesota
For the first time in his career, Rivers actually has a WR
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Saints get to .500
Washington at New York Jets
I think the J-E-T-S' problems lie deeper than a QB change.
Carolina at Tennessee
KC or VY, I don't care. Tennessee will roll. Plus, it's fun to type Tennessee.
Arizona at Tampa Bay
24-21
Seattle at Cleveland
Alexander is injured more than he lets on, and none of the receivers can catch.
Houston at Oakland
QB by committee?
New England at Indianapolis
Until somebody beats them, the Colts are still world champs and top of the list
Dallas at Philadelphia
You think Dallas is good now, wait til Glenn gets back.

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh rolls on through

I can't believe how many away teams I picked this week.

I also forecast that the Bears, Rams, Dolphins, and Giants will not win this week.

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Prelim Picks

Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Great game...but in the process of picking I had to ask myself "Which team do I hate more (as a Steelers Fan)?"
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Lol. A local radio station host in the morning has a guy call up this Monday [to win free tickets for something] and was like "GOO COWBOYS!!! They played the best they ever have this weekend!" The guy went on and on for a minute or so but it was the funniest thing ever to me because I knew that the Cowboys did not play this past weekend... I'll be sure to root for the Rams and Dolphins this weekend though!

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Before injury reports and everything:

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
one stuggling team on the decent and one stuggling team on the way up, the one on the way downis still better
San Francisco at Atlanta
san fran is just bad
Denver at Detroit
thier defence is solid, their offence is great when it needs to be, and denver seems to struggle against teams with a decent defence (green bay) what happenes when a real defence hits em? a loss thats it
Green Bay at Kansas City
best team in the nfc???
San Diego at Minnesota
no contest here, if lt doesnt score 3 tds rivers will.
Jacksonville at New Orleans
now that they finaly found out that you win if you put the ball in the endzone
Washington at New York Jets
this is one of those games that no one cares about unless you live in jersey or dc
Carolina at Tennessee
i will prolly lose this one buyi hate young
Arizona at Tampa Bay
they are still better then 'zona
Seattle at Cleveland
cleveland has a stout short game defence and seattle has no offence. and wait....i think cleveland does tho.
Houston at Oakland
as much as i love oakland, they wont win with culpepper in as quaterback, thats why miami benched him for joe harrington and still didnt put him in when they decided to bench joey
New England at Indianapolis
im going on a lim here. i still think that indy is going to win...even though it will be a very high scoring game.
Dallas at Philadelphia
comming off the bye, the boys are rested and ready to crush the mediocre egales

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
two teams that i like, man its tough, but i think i will have to go with the team that has a better offence...since the defences are darn near the same.

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So it seems people think that Indy is going to win over the Pats this weekend.
From watching the Pats play they have had no difficulties against any team so far this year, but Indy has had to fight for every W they have so far, its going to be Pats all the way this year.

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Prelim Picks

Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Cincinnati at Buffalo
I'm not to confident in this pick, thanks to the Bengals D and the fact that the Bills have been playing well lately. I just think Palmer, TJ, CJ, and Kenny Watson will be better than Losman, Marshawn Lynch, and Lee Evans.

San Francisco at Atlanta
49ers haven't scored more than 20 points in one game this year. Somethings wrong with the offense, and it doesn't seem to be talent...

Denver at Detroit
Favre proved you can beat the Champ and Bly deep.

Green Bay at Kansas City
Speaking of Favre, he joins Brady and Manning's club.

San Diego at Minnesota
Add Chris Chambers to Gates and LT and you get a team that can challenge the Colts and Pats. Vikings will be stuck at .500 until they get consistency at QB.

Jacksonville at New Orleans
What's the best way to attack a big, physical team? With speed. Colston is back.

Washington at New York Jets
Clemens won't help the Jets, they need more help on defense than they do at QB.

Carolina at Tennessee
They're doing surprisingly well on D. Good thing they're not completely dependent on VY.

Arizona at Tampa Bay
Both teams coming off close losses. Edge carries the Cardinals past the Bucs.

Seattle at Cleveland
The offense in Cleveland is rolling. Seahawks, not so much. Browns for 3 in-a-row?

Houston at Oakland
Not good for either team. Rosenfels throws too many INTs, Schaub sucks when he's injured. Raiders can't win the close games. I'm picking the Texans because they have a better D.

New England at Indianapolis
With the way Brady has been throwing the ball to Moss, I don't think it matters how well your playing on defense or even how many people you use to defend him.
Colts keep it close, but I don't see the Patriots losing or letting off the gas.

Dallas at Philadelphia
The Cowboys are coming off a bye and are the better team.

Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Baltimore won't be much of a threat to the Steelers.

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia ....I'm going to get murdered for that one

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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You didn't watch the Cleveland-New England game did you?

Having absolutely "no" difficulties is a mischaracterization of that particular game.

Cleveland gave them quite a test. Four Cleveland turnovers, most self-imposed, hurt Cleveland more than New England hurt them.

Derek Anderson threw an endzone INT deep in New England territory as the Browns were driving for an early TD that would have given them the lead.

Kellen Winslow fumble was returned for a TD with less than a minute left to pad New England's score by 7 after the Browns narrowed it (again) to a 10 point deficit.

Cleveland was the first team to hold New England scoreless for a quarter.

Cleveland was the first team not to give up a TD to the Patriots on their opening drive.

Cleveland held the Patriots to 3 offensive TD's, undoubtedly their lowest total of the year to date.

Cleveland racked up 353 yards of offense despite the turnovers.

Cleveland only lost the time of possession battle by 5 minutes.

And this was IN New England.

Really the difference in the game was the Browns turnovers. The Browns cut the lead to 10 points twice in the 2nd half. The game could easily have swung the other way had the Browns protected the ball. The Browns had the New England crowd out of it for much of the game. In the end, the superior talent of the Patriots won out, but it was FAR from a cakewalk, and it is evidence that the Browns are a team that should NOT be taken lightly.


All that being said, go Colts.

Sunday:
Cincinnatiat Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denverat Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonvilleat New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland - Win at least 2 of 3 against Seattle, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and I'll believe you're for real. Til then, stop with the penalties, play defense, and keep your helmets on. And keep being one of the most entertaining teams to watch in the league.
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis - Boston fans need some bad sports news to prevent excessive cranial expansion. Hopefully compounded by Boston College losing and the Celtics tanking....
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh - It pains me to do this. I'd be ecstatic if I were wrong.

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Ill admit, that if the colts and Patriots were not 8-0, the browns would be the number 2 team (behind the cowboys, not counting pats/colts) But the patriots also RAN the ball more times than they actually caught the ball. And the QB's had the same amount of completions. The QB is pretty much half of the team and the fact that the QB failed to do his job the best is a reason why the patriots won. Brady has very little if any mistakes this year, which is why they havnt lost. The patriots have outscored the opponents with 43 touchdowns to 16. If the opponents play a bad game then so be it, but the patriots know how to capitalize. Its like the lions, 2 of their wins come from the other team not finishing up at the end. I like the browns, but the patriots are the better team this year and they are gonna beat the colts by 13 (just a guess)

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I mean no disrespect, but the Cleveland Browns #4 (counting the Pats and Colts) in the NFL? Yeah, Derek Anderson, Braylon Edwards, and Kellen Winslow are doing great, but number 4? Better than the Steelers (my pick for #3 in NFL)? Better than the Chargers (#4)? Better than the Giants (#6)? Better than the Packers (#7)? Those teams have some play-makers on Defense, but I don't see anyone on the Browns D that is a true play-maker. Their defense, as a unit, ranks in the bottom 5 in points against and yards allowed (in total, rushing, and receiving). It's a good thing that their offense can keep up. But look at the Colts before 2006, the offense can only carry the team so far.

As for my 2 cents about the Patriots vs. Colts game:
I'm a Colts fan, but I live in New England (New Hampshire to be specific) and I get to watch the Patriots more than I do the Colts. And after watching them play, I just don't see how any team in the league can stop the combination of Tom Brady, Randy Moss, and Wes Welker. If you watched the Miami game, it was absurd how good Randy Moss was. Granted it was Miami they were playing, but all Brady had to do was throw in the general direction of Moss and it was a TD. Moss has earned the right to be called by his old nickname: "Freak". And Wes reminds me of Brandon Stokley, but more elusive and tougher.
Obviously, the Colts still have Peyton Manning, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, and (maybe) Marvin Harrison on the offensive side of the ball. Bob Sanders is a beast on defense and, even though he's not sacking the QB as much as he used to, Freeney is still a key to that defense, which is in the top 5 in points allowed, total yards against, and receiving yards against. I believe that gives the Colts the best chance of anyone to beat (or at least keep pace with) the Patriots. The only way that I can see the Colts winning is if they are able to get to Tom Brady before he can get the ball to Moss or Welker. But even that might not help. in the Dallas game, the Cowboys were able to do that for the first half, and the Pats still scored 21 points on them.

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The funny thing is the defense was much, much better last year while the offense was horrid.

Leigh Bodden is a playmaker. If a few of his brethren (Kamerion Wimbley, where art thou?) could couple a legitimate pass rush with his ball-hawking abilities, they'd have something.

Some people are actually ranking the Browns around 10th.

Drop those Stealers a bit more. Overrated. I'd put the Chargers and Giants ahead of them. This should start something. Cue A_Reed and Kyle379. :-)

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Ok... I can compromise on where to rank the Steelers, losing to the Cardinals was unacceptable.:)
But the Browns 10th as a team or defensively?
I doubt it's defensively, here are their stats (via NFL.com):
270 yards/game passing (2nd worst to the Vikings)
139 yards/game rushing (4th worst to the Broncos, Dolphins, and Raiders)
410 yards/game overall (THE worst in the NFL)
Turnover ratio of -3

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That was 10th overall.

I'm a bottom line kind of guy - who cares how many yards they give up? The game is won and lost by the points on the board. How do they rank in scoring defense? Hey, they're only 3rd worst there wooo. Bend but don't break, baby.

And in the end all that matters is you score more than the other guy, so I'll take those 41-31 and 51-45 and 27-20 and 27-13 wins, thank you very much. I'll also give up a 26-24 loss that only ended up as such because the potential game-ending game winning field goal was blocked (after a successful "Shanahan Timeout Maneuver" by Oakland which negated the original successful kick), a 34-7 loss with a lame duck former Brown as the starting QB in the home opener, and a 34-17 loss at New England which I actually characterize as a success relative to the rest of the league who's faced them up to this point.

Just win, baby!

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I'll concede that, Travis. the stats don't matter as much as the wins and losses.
However, come playoff time, I don't expect the Browns to come close to winning against the likes of San Diego, Pittsburgh, New England, or Indianapolis. Saying that they're better than or as good as San Diego or Pittsburgh is a mistake, in my opinion.
But there is a reason why the play the games i guess... :D

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O Travis . . . The Brownies win two in a row for the first time since 2003 and you start talking. Lets just wait until November 11th to see how much the Browns have improved since week 1. If the Steelers beat the Ravens on Monday, the next week (Steelers vs. Browns) takes on a whole new meaning. But until then Travis, I say the Steelers are still better than the Browns so HAHA!

Do you honestly think the Giants are better than the Steelers, they're in the NFC !

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I have to agree there. The Browns aren't bad but compared to the Steelers, its no match up. Neither team's D is amazing and both pretty equal WRs. Ultimately it comes down to the QBs and I'd take Roethlisberger over Brady Quinn any day!
I resent that. While the NFC is as good as the AFC, they are not terrible. The Cowboys, The Packers, and the Giants could easily be ranked in the top 10 overall. As A Packers Fan I'll be the first to admit that they wouldn't stand a chance against a team like the Pats or Indy but Any other team in the NFL, I think they could beat. As for the G-men, they are just on a roll (Not better than Pitt though), but still I don't know how you can almost lose to Miami!

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1.) The Steelers 'D' is statistically at least in the top 5 of every defensive rank.

Pts/G: 13(1st) TotPts: 91(1st) TotYds: 1798(1st) Yd/G: 256.9(1st) Rush: 544(4th) RYd/G: 77.7(4th) Pass:1254(3rd) PYd/G: 179.1(4th)

2.) Quinn is not the Starter for the Cleveland Clowns, it is Derek Anderson.

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I`m a Browns fan and to me I don`t care how good you say they are when its the Steelers the Browns can always find a way to win because upsets are a big part of football.

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Travis,

Sorry to say this but it sounds like your judgment is clouded by the fact that Boston won the world series.

Get serious. Colts don't stand a chance and you know it. And there is no payroll issue involved here.

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Context clues - did they teach reading comprehension over at Girard, young sir? :) I never once said the Browns were better than the Stealers. But perhaps deep inside your tortured Stealer fan soul, though, you secretly fear the Browns? If you were truly confident in your team's abilities, why would you even give the Browns the argumentative light of day above? Perhaps you are afraidddddddddd? :D

I just think it's an inferiority complex created by the Colts and Patriots....and perhaps losing to a Broncos team that just tanked against one of your self-described lame NFC teams. Hmm....

Dr. Hoffman has spoken.

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No, just rolls.....of videotape.....oops.

I know no such thing, sir. Are all Boston fans as incredulous when non-believers actually dare to question the superiority of their teams?

Do I believe the Patriots are a better team than the Colts? Yes, but not nearly as much as the "don't stand a chance" crowd (and ESPN) would have me believe. Sorry.

Given that I think it's close, and the Colts are playing at home, I'll throw my support to the Colts just because, well, you know, I CAN! If I lose, well heck gee golly gosh, I think I'll live. MIDWEST REPRESENT.

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No Dr. Hoffman I know what you meant, Its just a hobby of mine to talk trash to Browns fans. To clarify, I don't think the NFC is LAME, I just don't think that most can put up with the AFC thats all. I look at a majority of the Power rankings and see teams like the Giants or the Packers before the Steelers or the Jags or Titans and I ask myself if any could pose a serious threat to them. I like the Cowboys, Packers and Giants, I think they are the only "for real" teams, but none can beat the better teams of the AFC in my opinion.

As for Dr. Hoffman I leave you with the following

14 of the last 15 - I'm sure you know what this means!

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Oh that was all P.D.A. (Pre Derek Anderson)....

Truth be told, the Browns lack of a pass rush will continue to hamstring them when attempting to beat the better teams of the league. For years, Browns fans were screaming "fix the offensive line!!!!" to repair their offensive woes. We were right, of course. They fixed it, and well you see the results. Now the Browns must focus on the foundation of the defense - the D-line.

But their defensive difficulties will still not completely hamper their abilities to win a few from the upper echelon of teams. On any given Sunday - be afraid of their offensive playmakers. Doesn't hurt that their special teams are overall one of the best in the league.

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Ok. If the Lions are up by 10 pts. by the time the Colts/Pats game starts, Ill go with the Colts winning. Is that legal?

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Not exactly the easiest week for picks:

Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
Coin Flip
San Francisco at Atlanta
Anyone can beat Atlanta this year
Denver at Detroit
(Unfortunately) Detroit's on a roll
Green Bay at Kansas City
K.C is not a big threat this year. My 2 cents: the Pack should be Undefeated
San Diego at Minnesota
Minnesota needs to can't rely solely on a rookie (probably Rookie of the Year) to win every game
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Not many people are talking about the Jags; they're just quietly doing their thing
Washington at New York Jets
Guaranteed win for the Jets because this is the one weak I don't pick them
Carolina at Tennessee
VY will pick the Panther's D apart
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Tampa has worked a lot since last week. They don't want a repeat
Seattle at Cleveland
Boy am I gonna get so replies about the Browns for this
Houston at Oakland
Um...
New England at Indianapolis
NE is just too good right now. In the playoffs however, I'll probably go the other way
Dallas at Philadelphia
Dallas>Philly

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
Battle of the D won by Pitt

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No not at all - you're entitled to your opinion, and I could see the game going either way. I think it'll come down to who protects the ball better.

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Are you serious? Have you seen the caliber of teams the Patriots have played vs. the teams the Colts have played? The Colts have faced tougher opponents week after week and still have managed to outscore them significantly. I don't keep track of the Patriot's cheating football program, but if the toughest opponent they've faced is the Cleveland Browns, then wow, just wow, man, they've really had some hard games. We'll see how it plays out on Sunday, but saying the Patriots have an advantage over the Colts because they've won by more is just a ridiculous argument when you look at the teams they have faced. What was actually their toughest team, the Buffalo Bills? Really, c'mon now.

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh
__________________

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis-Here is all I have to say, Indy has beat some good teams (New Orleans, Tennessee, Denver Jacksonville) but I think the quality of teams the Patriots have beaten (San Diego, Dallas, Cleveland, and their punching bags Washington) is slightly higher. I don't think New England is going to blow out the Colts, like they have with everyone else but i still think that New England is going to win. Moss/Welker/Watson is right now a better combo then Wayne/Clark and an injured Harrison. If Marvin was healthy I think I might pick the Colts but with him out and the Pats so angry at the world, I will pick New England.
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Cincinnati
Atlanta
Detroit
Green Bay
San Diego
New Orleans
Washington
Tennessee
Tampa Bay
Cleveland
Oakland
New England
Dallas
Pittsburgh

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Sunday:
Cincinnati at Buffalo
San Francisco at Atlanta
Denver at Detroit
Green Bay at Kansas City
San Diego at Minnesota
Jacksonville at New Orleans
Washington at New York Jets
Carolina at Tennessee
Arizona at Tampa Bay
Seattle at Cleveland
Houston at Oakland
New England at Indianapolis
Dallas at Philadelphia

Monday:
Baltimore at Pittsburgh

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Lions did what???
Good Game denver

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Well it was a close match but the Patriots came out on top. I still think they're one of the dirtiest football teams out there. 10 penalties for 146 yards? Wow. Way to stay classy. Besides just the usual interference calls that come with any football game, you had personal fouls, tripping of linemen, and even holding someone out of bounds during a return. And Belicheck couldn't even acknowledge Tony Dungy after the game. I loathe the Patriots.

See you in the playoffs. With Marvin Harrison.

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They did face another undefeated team. Though they were not even in the same league as the Patriots. Whatever team TO is on.

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... Colts shoulda won, but I only saw 2 minutes because the Houston game was going on and they beat Oakland with some great plays. They also made many stupid mistakes...

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I think of that as even more impressive, they were able to spot the Colts 146 yards and still win. Also it won't matter if the Colts have Harrison or not in the playoffs he has been historically bellow average during the playoffs. If it is in New England that will only make it tougher for the Colts. This was the worst game the Patriots have played, and you can credit the Colts for causing them havoc. But outside of Addai the Colts didn't really play well. I think the Pats are the best team this year and have proved it so far, but they still have Pittsburgh and the New York Giants, two teams that are tough matchups for them. The Colts have another tough game next week (although after today the Chargers don't look so tough) and still have J-Ville, Tennessee and @ Baltimore. I think the Pats chances of going undefeated are a little better than 70%, they have two tough opponents, but it should not be to hard.

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Not exactly the "don't stand a chance" result many Patriots fans predicted, eh?

And the Browns just won a game they used to lose on a regular basis. Yet another shootout - I'm not complaining. Bend but don't break!!!

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I don't find it impressive at all when a team consistantly violates the rules, many times with personal fouls. Someone needs to teach the Patriots a little humility, maybe then they'll show their opponents a little more respect.

I'm not going to say something like the Colts should have won, because they didn't. They lost, they were outplayed in the fourth quarter.

I've attached a logo for the Patriots that I think they should consider incorporating.

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Before you start bashing a team lets look at the stats:

NE averages 4.7 penalties a game, averaging 38.1 yards per game. They are the 6th best (meaning fewest penalities) team in the NFL. Thats not to bad considering Indy is what... only 4.1 penalties a game and 26.1 yards per game.

Honestly its not that different.

Stop being a sore loser.

Good Job Colts... it was a great game and you proved us all wrong.

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"Who can beat a team the unbeaten Colts, up 10 at home, couldn't close out? No one. Sorry, Miami Class of '72. These Patriots are in a league of their own." Gene Wojciechowski, "neutral" ESPN writer.

These hacks just don't get it, do they?

And don't get me started on Bill Simmons.

You know, ESPN should just rename their network to ECSPN (East Coast Sports Pandering Network) and be done with it.

Did you know at one time way back in the day, ESPN strongly considered taking their entire operation to CLEVELAND, not Bristol, CT? Ah, what could have been.

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I don't think you should view a heavy penalized team (like the Patriots were yesturday) as dirty or unsportsmanlike. If a team is penalized alot, it usually means they are undesciplined or routinly out of position. For example, the reason you commit a pass interference is because you are out of position and you need to stop the reciever from catching the ball; if you were in position there would be no need to grab the WR. Its the same with offensive holding; if you had the d-lineman blocked well, there is no need to hold. Penalities only mean a team is undisciplined and out of position, not because they are dirty or unclassy.

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I don't like the pats at all. and I like the colts

That said, I think they got the short end of the stick when it came to all those PI calls. The benefit of the doubt was absolutely going to Indy on offense and defense.

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all this talk about the pats and indy i would swear that there wasnt another game going on this week. as much as the pats are crushing this season, same with indy, i dont think either of them will win the superbow. i think that the nfc will come out on top for who ever they put up there wether it be the cowboys, giants, packers, saints, or the lions. and yes i said it the lions. you have to look at all the other theams this year. who have the pats beat???? the jets, chargers, bills, browns, bengals. only two of those teams have a defence that can stop my 2 year old neice from scoring from her own endzone. the cowboys and indy are the only teams they have beaten that has any kind of inclination of winning a superbowl. (dont get me wrong...i like the browns and the chargers, i have a man crush on LT haha) you have to look at that. they put up 52 points on the worst team in the league...isnt every one??? more later...dinner is calling.

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Point made. There were some incredible games this week. Detroit discovered they know how to play D. The longest play in NFL history took place. The Saints put up 399 yards in the first HALF. There's more to football than one 24-20 game.

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Week 9 Points:
JackN..............12
Travis Hoffman.....12
461gopher..........11
65_Xero_Huskie.....11
George1902.........11
Tim Delles.........11
A_Reed.............10
Koko Ed............10
Pavan..............10
xzvrw2.............10
boiler.............9
Cory...............9
Lil' Lavery........9
SSMike.............9
XaulZan11..........9
Alex Cormier.......8
Kyle379............8
raymaniac..........8
Sumadin............8
raf4far............7
JoeJank103.........6


Overall Results:
JackN..............91
Koko Ed............88
George1902.........86
boiler.............85
461gopher..........85
Alex Cormier.......83
XaulZan11..........81
xzvrw2.............79
Kyle379............79
SSMike.............77
raf4far............74
A_Reed.............74
Travis Hoffman.....72
Pavan..............66
raymaniac..........64
Jeremiah Johnson...60
Lil' Lavery........57
Tim Delles.........56
Cory...............56
65_Xero_Huskie.....52
George A...........45
Kevyn H............41
Josh Murphy........34
Sumadin............29
Stud Man Dan.......18
Greg Perkins.......10
Jevin H............9
nukemknight........9
FreedomForce.......8
Josh Goodman.......8
SamSofa330.........8
JoeJank103.........6


I'll start week 10's thread once I get back from class this afternoon, so stay tuned :)

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Can I put a suggestion?
Can u put total like

52/63

I say this because i missed like 2 weeks or so in the beginning.

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Here's the list:

Player Name_______Overall__Total Picks__Percentage
461gopher.........85.......130..........65.38%
65_Xero_Huskie....52.......84...........61.90%
A_Reed............74.......130..........56.92%
Alex Cormier......83.......130..........63.85%
boiler............85.......130..........65.38%
Cory..............56.......89...........62.92%
FreedomForce......8........14...........57.14%
George A..........45.......84...........53.57%
George1902........86.......129..........66.67%
Greg Perkins......10.......16...........62.50%
JackN.............91.......128..........71.09%
Jeremiah Johnson..60.......90...........66.67%
Jevin H...........9........14...........64.29%
JoeJank103........6........14...........42.86%
Josh Goodman......8........16...........50.00%
Josh Murphy.......34.......60...........56.67%
Kevyn H...........41.......76...........53.95%
Koko Ed...........88.......130..........67.69%
Kyle379...........79.......130..........60.77%
Lil' Lavery.......57.......98...........58.16%
nukemknight.......9........16...........56.25%
Pavan.............66.......115..........57.39%
raf4far...........74.......114..........64.91%
raymaniac.........64.......130..........49.23%
SamSofa330........8........16...........50.00%
SSMike............77.......130..........59.23%
Stud Man Dan......18.......32...........56.25%
Sumadin...........29.......41...........70.73%
Tim Delles........56.......82...........68.29%
Travis Hoffman....72.......117..........61.54%
XaulZan11.........81.......130..........62.31%
xzvrw2............79.......130..........60.77%