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Matt_Kaplan1902 06-04-2008 01:05

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Congrats Wayne on winning the WFA!!!

Should be fun to watch the eliminations tomorrow.

galewind 06-04-2008 06:53

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kborer22 (Post 731246)

FRC also seemed to be in a state of disarray, there were 2 MC's and 2 play by play announcers. Blair and Shenqua both on the same field while cool, seemed a bit.....much. While talking to some of the volunteers, they were also not enjoying them selves.

As far as game announcing and Emceeing goes, rather than rotate, I believe Blair and Chiniqua (sp?) thought it might help speed things up to just "hand off" rather than run to the other end of the field to save a wee bit of time on the late-running event.

With game announcing, George A. has been kind enough to share the mic with me because I'm a "GA in-Training". There's no miscommunication or "disarray" there.

There are a few contributing factors to why we're running behind there, and they include:

1) Teams taking too long to get their robots on and off the field
2) Refs deliberating for a long time about penalties (and I will qualify that by giving ridiculous props to the head ref who has been busting his tail this entire regional).
3) Technical issues, largely due to teams slamming into driver station walls. I witnessed at least 5 times on Saturday where controller boards fell off the driver station. That's being conservative.

To be critical, the biggest issue for me at the NY regional is the sound. When I'm on the field, I'm fighting over being able to hear the Emcees and being blasted over by the FTC area and FRC pit area. I'm not sure if its the same in the stands, but it really makes my job harder when I hear the field error sound to realize it's on FTC and not FRC.

Akash Rastogi 06-04-2008 07:55

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredliu168 (Post 731250)
So who won FTC?

211,74. and i forget the other.

My team came home with the Motivate Award, so I'm happy:)
We were the 8th alliance captain and had to face 74 and 211 first match of elims....so didn't make it past that lol. I really didn't like the fact that alliance selection wasn't serpentine, it actually pissed me off a little.

Kyler 06-04-2008 13:28

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Just something interesting. I have a calculated the offensive power rankings (How many points, on average, a single robot will contribute to their alliance) for all the qualification matches in this regional. These are the results:

Code:


395        38.4891364
1155        35.5251438
348        33.04449142
41        31.29882513
1230        26.85228513
116        26.40951771
555        26.08956609
1594        23.99147056
637        23.12104022
694        22.23110222
2344        21.81882451
2265        21.50090264
1517        20.56921234
1302        19.1274372
375        18.62587658
640        17.44148956
229        17.41492436
2524        17.04776962
335        16.27841305
1403        15.09832319
1989        15.08266872
56        14.9413567
2579        14.79807069
2070        14.02320447
522        13.78677732
271        13.41446747
1626        12.79051312
2601        12.74924334
369        12.16566401
2577        12.04255347
550        11.76549201
759        10.60351972
806        10.47557395
371        10.21050408
354        9.166549794
1660        8.68374128
1396        8.217961374
1880        8.2170015
1929        8.073327296
334        7.991109979
571        7.281499659
421        6.444425795
1237        5.972497328
1602        5.629371479
2274        5.576584669
333        5.512163389
1600        5.44599415
2205        5.391945564
1520        5.263514975
2596        4.548671482
1807        4.115648906
1340        3.941146931
2554        2.876732727
2573        2.81133275
2681        2.4286572
1635        1.76995512
2458        1.364548185
2203        0.314692307
1211        0.240418428
1698        -1.620704757
1862        -2.797630107
743        -4.820514551
1796        -7.09985313
380        -12.96740887

Based on that, the average scores should be roughly:

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Alliance 1:        41        555        1989                72.47105994
Alliance 2:        348        375        637                74.79140822
Alliance 3:        694        2344        1403                59.14824992
Alliance 4:        229        395        271                69.31852823
Alliance 5:        759        116        1302                56.14047463
Alliance 6:        2265        56        571                43.723759
Alliance 7:        1594        369        1517                56.72634691
Alliance 8:        1880        1155        1230                70.59443043

Just something interesting.

Josh Drake 06-04-2008 13:39

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Hats off to rookie team 2344. Impressive design. I don't know why I like it so much?:rolleyes:

kborer22 06-04-2008 14:35

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lilstogi11 (Post 731325)
211,74. and i forget the other.

My team came home with the Motivate Award, so I'm happy:)
We were the 8th alliance captain and had to face 74 and 211 first match of elims....so didn't make it past that lol. I really didn't like the fact that alliance selection wasn't serpentine, it actually pissed me off a little.

i agree that it was weird that they went back to old school FRC for the alliance selections, but in the rules is says that the order that the teams pick will be repeated for the second alliance partner, while not quite understanding it, they did it right, and apparently other regionals have done it wrong.....


i will agree that was another frustrating thing that NONE of the FTC teams could hear when they were up. Granted it was not too hard to go up and just as what match they were on, but i think something needed to be worked out...

thatguy 06-04-2008 14:54

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kborer22 (Post 731456)
i agree that it was weird that they went back to
i will agree that was another frustrating thing that NONE of the FTC teams could hear when they were up. Granted it was not too hard to go up and just as what match they were on, but i think something needed to be worked out...

Well it was hard to hear due to all the noise coming from the FRC competition. I was frantic with my FTC team (123) trying to get our bot in queue two matches in advance.

I really hope next year, they put the FTC competition in the other hallway, like what the guy at opening ceremonies said they might do.

Rick TYler 06-04-2008 15:02

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kborer22 (Post 731456)
not quite understanding it, they did it right, and apparently other regionals have done it wrong...

Not every other FTC regional... they did it right in Washington.

There was a small problem in Washington, though. Last year we only had a dozen or so robots in the tournament, so there weren't enough teams to make eight alliances of three each for the Eliminations. The solution was to just pick 2-team alliances for Eliminations. Most of the last-year's teams were not prepared to pick a third alliance partner because of this (failing to read and remember the manual, I suppose), and were surprised that there were three 'bots per alliance. Another item for my mentor's checklist: Remind the team to completely re-read the rules about two weeks before an event, just to make sure.

Akash Rastogi 06-04-2008 15:17

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
My Regional Winner Prediction-

41, 555, and 1989.

Really hope 555 can have this win, they've been working really hard all season long. 41 as well. I don't know of 1989 though (never met them)

Finalists will be 375's alliance..I will keep this updated.
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UPDATE: wow, 694 just put on an awesome show against 375 and won 72-44 due to two penalties on 375. 694 would have won anyway. That was a sweet match. They are now 1-1 and moving onto a third match.

UPDATE: Holy cr@p, 694's alliance took Semi finals to a third round and busted out a hurdle at the buzzer. Moving onto the Finals is 375, 348, and 637 due to penalties on 1403 and 694. If not for penalties, 694 would have won with a score of 72-66. Awesome job from 2344, 1403, and 694 though. It was intense to watch.

UPDATE: Finals match 1- Due to what appeared to be a shooter malfunction, 375 wasn't able to hurdle near the end of the match which cost them dearly. 375 also had a penalty for impeding a hurdle. 555 put up awesome hurdles and won the #1 alliance the match. 555's alliance wins 74-58 74-68 was pre-penalty).

UPDATE: Congratulations to teams 41, 555, and 1989 called the "New Jersey Sweep" for winning the NYC Regional with a clear victory of 96-54!!!!

Awesome job by 348,375, and 2234. Predictions were right and I will try to keep you all posted on awards as well.

Josh Drake 06-04-2008 15:55

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
:ahh: :ahh: :ahh: 375 must have had a problem with their shooter. They were in the home zone 3X with the ball, and no shot taken. I hope they can recover.

Freddy Schurr 06-04-2008 16:14

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Congrats to the NJ Alliance of 41,555,and 1989

Tottanka 06-04-2008 16:18

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DRAKE343 (Post 731501)
:ahh: :ahh: :ahh: 375 must have had a problem with their shooter. They were in the home zone 3X with the ball, and no shot taken. I hope they can recover.

i think they ran out of air

Akash Rastogi 06-04-2008 17:28

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
Awards- Sunday

Outstanding Volunteer of the Year- Firooz Mirbaha
GM Industrial Design Award- 395, 2Train Robotics:cool:
Motorola Quality Award- 1517, P4
J&J Gracious Professionalism Award- 334, Techengineers
Chrysler Team Spirit Award- 230, Lehman Lionics
Judge's Award "For Spreading the FIRST Fever"- 1660. Harlem Knights
Rookie Inspiration Award- 2596, Ferrous Bulldog Innovations
Rookie All-Star Award- 2344, Saunders Droid Factory
Highest Rookie Seed- 2344, Saunders Droid Factory
UL Industrial Safety Award- 571, Team Paragon
Regional Finalists- 348 Norwell Robotics, 375 Robotic Plague:cool: 637 Mr. T
Regional Champions- 41 Robo Warriors, 555 Montclair Robotics:cool: , 1989 Viking Robotics ftw!!!

Engineering Inspiration Award- 694, StuyPulse ftw!!!
Regional Chairman's Award- 116, Epsilon Delta

Congratulations to all teams and see some of you in Atlanta!

DonRotolo 06-04-2008 17:57

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
HUGE Congrats to 1989 for the win in their second year. 555 and 41 are awesome (scary awesome) teams to be allied with, and you guys deserve it all the way.

See you in Atlanta!

Don

Romino90 06-04-2008 21:06

Re: 2008 New York City Regional
 
yeah i had fun @ new york it was my favorite regonal nd i honestly did wanna go this weekend but after going i was glad i went..it was so big and engery packed...yeah u couldnt hear the mcs cause of those green shirt 1403 children buts that alright that why i love my freshmen haha..it was good matches and lot s of fun ...i hoped 1403 will go next year


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