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Ah but playing Devil's Advocate, what would keep an alliance from picking a team with no intention of playing them at all, only to keep that team's robot abilities and strategic flexibility from falling into the hands of an alliance that would be more likely to actually use such flexibility? I think at the very least, you'd have to retain serpentine picking of the backup bot (8 - 1) to keep higher-seeded alliances (who are more likely to have 3 robots who are effective enough to go it alone) from stashing away effective backups from the lower-seeded alliances in order for Paul's/Pat's suggestion to be viable.

Regardless, though, the use of any "Let me stash your team out of the way where you can't contribute to the success of another alliance, and oh, by the way, we don't even have to share the victory with you officially, nyah nyah nyah" methods doesn't sound like much fun for the backup team stuck in such a situation. Other than the IRI planners having to pay for the extra trophies, I don't see the downside of positively recognizing a team for serving as the backup role in an alliance, regardless of the reason they were put there. I agree completely with Rick Oliver - even the seldom (if ever)-used 12th man on the basketball team or the once every 10 games pinch hitting specialist gets to celebrate the victory equally with teammates who have much more active role on the team. Let's be careful not to treat these 4th teams as pieces of meat or pawns in a game implied to be both played and won by superior personnel.

Has anyone bothered to quantify the overall sentiment of the IRI alliance teams who actually participated in the "pick your own backup" plan last year? Are people suggesting that the planning committee should modify the rules to cater to a minority few who did not prefer them? Just a-wonderin' if anyone's considered the big picture.

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Umm. Team A picks team Z as their fourth pick. Team G could have been apart of alliances B,C,D,E,F,G or H but due to A's place in the draft they picked Z. If Z was not used and was not give any recognition or anything it would be wrong because what if one of the alliances B-G wanted to strategically use Z but Z was "stiffed" by their alliance?

I agree as Captains, teams get to choose their team mates, strategy, etc., but I do not agree that they should leave someone on their alliance out of the action. I'm pretty sure a "dominating" alliance should be able to under ANY circumstance. Your 4th robot is NOT a backup bot, it is your alliance member.

Pavan

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That's clearly not how 494 felt last year as the 4th team, as mentioned above. I'd be careful about making blanket statements either way.

The reason for the 4th member being there should be clearly considered and defined before a ruling on their usage is made this year. There are other ways to create a legitimate back-up pool and add more teams to the eliminations. There may or may not be other ways to add flexibility to an alliance.
As a personal side note, I enjoy the forced flexibility of only have a 3 team alliance. While you might not always have the ideal robots to fit into a counter-strategy against your opponents, the creativity forced upon you is one of the coolest parts of the eliminations, imho. Teams have to push their limits and attempt new and creative strategies to use their alliance's strengths to defeat their opponents, rather than just plugging in the members that will let them have an ideal alliance for the situation. It changes it from an the elaborate mixture of "rock, paper, scissors" to an actual match of strategy and skill. Rather than who can play game X better, it becomes who can out-think and out-perform the opposing alliance.

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Interesting how different interpretations can influence our perspectives. I checked the documentation from last year; the 3rd pick (done 8 to 1) was described as a "backup". I can certainly appreciate the sentiment expressed by Pat when considered in the context of being a "back up". In fact, I shared the same opinion, that all four teams should have the opportunity to play. It was when I looked at the situation from the perspective of having a 4 team alliance and always fielding the best alliance that I got comfortable with the possibility of not playing, yet still being considered part of the alliance.

I continue to beleve that the IRI folks made a well reasoned adjustment and I hope that we see it again this year; perhaps without the reference to "back up" :)

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Remember, the 3rd selection was a "pick your own back-up" round from the get go. It was designed so teams could pick the robot they wanted as a back-up. at no time was it stated that the robot had to be used. If the question is, "do you want to pick your own back-up agian this year?", then my answer is "yes". If the question is, "Do you want to have a 4 alliance team where all robots must be used once?, then my answer is "no".

I have no strong feelings about if the "back-up" gets a trophy or not as I see the merits of both arguments.

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Im going to IRI for sure this year and im bringing a friend along too. :)

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The Channel Cats have been to the IRI for the last several years and hope to be selected again this year. The folks who run IRI do a great job.

There has been a lot of discussion about rule modifications for this fun event so here is another suggestion. Since the whole idea behind FIRST is to get students interested in science and technology, how about IRI saying that all coaches must be students and let the adults relax in the stands. Turn over everything to the kids, it will be a good experience for them.

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I'm thinking some of the notable "egos" who came to play at IRI would be rather deflated over this decision. :p

I appreciate the sentiments of this suggestion, but I cannot support the implementation of blanket rules that drastically alter a team's implementation of their traditional internal operations. Each team should be permitted to deploy whatever drive team configuration they choose that is legal under the 2008 FIRST rules. This includes the coach.

Suddenly switching up coaches may severely affect a drive team's chemistry to the point they wouldn't be as effective as they were before. Those who traditionally use student coaches would suddenly have a competitive advantage over those teams who were scrambling to identify and train a student alternate.

Also, for those teams who have relatively new adult coaches behind the glass, it would rob those coaches of an excellent chance to work with and learn from the rest of the great strategic coaching minds who will be present at the event.

IRI traditionally only alters the most "stupid" GAME rules and leaves the rest alone - that's what's so great about the experience.

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This is especially evident in the Mentor-Operated Matches (which I hope are resurrected this year)

See above; turns out that some of the aforementioned "egos" can't drive to save their skins (but it sure is fun to watch them try)

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Do any teams mix up drive teams at IRI? We like to through in some noobs during the offseason to give them some practice and get some ideas on who would be a good driver next year. Just wondering if this was common at IRI, or since it is such a strong event, teams like to keep their regular drive team out on the field.

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Quite a few teams do that. It is a great time to expose "noobs" to the best of the best and see if they can handle it.

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We do not allow the seniors from the 2008 season, who just recently graduated, to operate the robot. We use IRI as the first event where the sophomores and juniors take over as practice for next year. So this year we will have our two junior back-up drivers as the main drive team. We also usually fit in an all girl round where the drive team and the coach are entirely made up of women. By the way, they are 6 and 0 at IRI.

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I wish we could make it there.That's not going to happen this year it looks like. :(

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RUSH has switched up driver's in the past...such as in '05 when my brother broke the arm (it wasn't his fault but I enjoy giving him a hard time)

Too touch on the other topic, last year IRI for RUSH was run by students...it was the best competition experience I have EVER had. The adults sat back relaxed and watched matches, there were about 7 students who attended and we all alternated human player (other than the driver's), since it was a job that could get anyone involved and was quite easy. I had the opportunity to basically run the pit, with an occasional check from a mentor. I found it a quite remarkable experience, and hope that other teams will do the same, because I guarantee the students will enjoy it.

See you in Indiana!

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Some teams try to do the very best they can by using their regular drive teams, while others give new drivers some experience. The past three years, we have used our drivers from the regular season, but this year we will have a different base driver for IRI. Unlike many off-season competitions, IRI is an event which is at least equal to any of the regionals in competitiveness, and which gives new drivers the best experience they can get.

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I've been hearing, but my opinon would be no one would come to that "second" Indiana Invitation, because of IRI. I think it would be very diffcult to try and pull this off. It would be like trying to sell Andy Mark gear box next to fisher price gearboxes. Which one you gunna pick? :-)

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I would expect the "second" Indiana event to be a less serious event where most teams would use new drivers, and which some teams would attend that were not invited to IRI. It would probably be a much more "low key" competition than IRI.

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A little bird has told me there may be a second event in Indianapolis in the fall. I'll try and cage that red bird up and get some details out of him soon.

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Why have a second one? If they have the people to pull that off why not do it the same weekend and have the first double off season event. I can see the future. Four gyms , four champs meeting late saturday to battle it out. OFF SEASON NATIONALS!!!!!

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I suspect the second event was more intended to be an "Indiana event" rather than a national event like IRI has become. It would serve a similar function to most of the other off-season events around the country, where almost every team (if not every team) is local. This would help replace the lack of automatic invitations for Indiana teams, allowing them to compete in an off-season event even if they don't make the IRI roster.

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It's funny that you mention this, as an Indiana Team, my opinion to the team was that we put rookie drivers in for IRI for 2005 and 2006, I changed my mind after 2006, when we came in dead last at IRI in 2006, after almost winning at Boilermaker 2006. Driver experience matters, if that's your team goal. But, it doesn't matter that we lost at IRI because we got experience to an upcoming drive team in 2006 at IRI for 2007. But you know you're right, for 2008 the same drivers we had at Boilermaker 2008 are going to drive at IRI 2008. This was a student team decision instead of using rookie drivers, I assume they "sense" the tension at IRI too...I tend to agree seeing how IRI has changed over the past couple of years. "ego" wise. :-) I say that with a smirk on my face. It's ok to unwind and just have an outright competition.

I see where this "second" event would be handy, because an off season event means to me, the chance to train those upcoming rookie drivers, seniors that we lose. We lost alot of seniors after 2006 and 2007, I miss them all. Trying to gain driver experience at IRI has not been good, we've learned that over the past three years at IRI. We throw them back into the "tigers", rookie drivers come back shaken after an IRI match, I tell them if they can survive IRI, they can survive anything after that. What a way to start out a new driver huh? LOL...

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So today is May 5th and the IRI site from the Indiana website hasn't been updated in years. Anyone have an idea where teams request to sign up?

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The site (indianaroboticsinvitational.org/) says that registration opens at 6PM today so you should check back then and go from there.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

ika is correct, use the http://www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org/ link for registration.

Good luck to all the teams applying for entry!

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I presume that the site opens at 6 pm EDT.

I'm fairly sure that the adaptation to daylight saving time in Indiana is complete now. Though last year, this might have caused a little confusiion... David Kelly on the clock switchin' thang;)

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Our rookie drivers generally get their first "real match" experience at the Florida Regional which is usually a week 2 or week 3 event. That is a much easier "practice event" than IRI. :-)

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No prompt here, but the page is loading painfully slow. The most it's pulled down is the title of the page, and no content so far.

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I believe they're updating the site so we can all register.

EDIT: Now its up for me.

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987 has applied! We are looking forward to coming this year!

Keaton

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Would it be alright if I apply to see if we'd even be invited even if our team can't go anyway? Idk if that's fair/unfair or w/e but I'm letting you know we can't be there anyway.

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If you guys can't be there I wouldn't even waste the time. Also it would be one less application that the IRI team would have to review and consider it, also it isn't fair for the planning crew. I wouldn't fill one out just to do it if you are not planning to attend.:)

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kk, thanks:)

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If anyone is having trouble getting to the site, this is the link you want: http://indianaroboticsinvitational.org/iri/

For some reason the www.indianaroboticsinvitational.org page was not redirecting to the registration page for me in Firefox.

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Applied.

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980 has applied as well.

Whether or not our team is accepted, I wouldn't miss IRI for anything.

It's definitely THE EVENT!!! The best teams in FIRST put on an absolutely amazing show!

Which milestones will be reached? A 200+ point winning score? Over 300 points combined? Over 100 points in hybrid mode for an alliance?

Can't wait....

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I got our application completed about 12 minutes after the opening. It would have been quicker, but that snow question stumped me. I do live in the South.

We are looking forward to seeing you, David. I saw your son get a scholarship today:)

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Team SparX 1126 just applied. Can't wait!!!

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There might not be enough time to pull this off this year,but how about a live broadcast when you announce the teams. Have fun with it. NFL draft day sort of thing. Teams could get together for selection night.

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John, you've read my mind and the mind of several other people (mainly in Purdue FIRST). We're looking at this option for BMR potentially as GTR does a fantastic job at it.

The problem is filling the dead time; GTR usually has many pre-recorded video spots that they can fill that time with because it's run by Discovery Channel Canada.

Either way it's an interesting idea that could be really fun if there were enough people interested in helping with it...

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Why don't you have teams submit all the videos they use for recruitment or sponsor demos? Or other fun videos made during build season.

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futurecast--"Welcome back to IRI selection night. We now are going to check in on one of the many remote sites. Sterling Heights Michigan your up and live. I see 217, 48 ,910, rush. Looks like a few more in back i can't make out. So Pual, how does it feel to be selected?...............

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171 is applied. Hopefully we can make our first trip down to Indy in July.

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233 has also submitted. we'd love to go back to IRI - great people, great event and AWESOME ROBOTS!

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This looks like a lot of fun, if team 1675 gets in we would love to make one, but about how long would the clip be?

Renee

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I've been trying to avoid posting on this thread so I won't get my own hopes up too high :P , but seeing I got a job and am saving up my first couple paychecks to pay for my flight out, I hope to be seeing everyone there. I'll probably go if any west coast teams go..

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Thanks to the planning committee for the astoundingly quick reply e-mail when I had a problem with the form. I think it was more me than the form :yikes: Good job. I can already tell that this is a well planned and manned operation even though I have never been to the IRI. I'm looking forward to the possibility of attending this year, though. Thanks.

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You're welcome. :]

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Just so we all know...have there been 72 teams already apply? If so, how many in total have applied so far?

Hopefully this isn't asking for information that is top secret right now...

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I was standing next to Andy Baker on Monday evening; at 6:05 his BlackBerry made a squeal and started to smoke.

Luckily, Andy being Andy, he was able to force the smoke back in.

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I know we have a bunch of people on 1024 that like hanging around eh... overdriving... ;)... so, if you're team is new to indy or if you're just looking to chat, feel free to come by our pit for any of your entertainment, technical disucssion or conversational needs. :]

Can't wait to see the team list!!!

-q

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We received 72 applications within 24 hours. I think that now we are in the high 80's. Teams still have time to send in applications. There will be a final list put together this weekend and then invites sent out on Monday (5/12).

I believe that we will be posting a "who has applied" list this morning.

Andy B.

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As of this moment, here are the teams who are applying for the 72 spots at the 2008 IRI. We are currently receiving more applications. Please get those in by Saturday (5/10), as we will be sending out invitations on Monday (5/12).

If your team is not listed here, and you think that you have signed up (or still want to sign up), please re-register and send a note to PC@IndianaRoboticsInvitational.org

As we always say, the teams make this event wonderful. Here is the list so far. Keep in mind that this is the applicant list. Invites go out Monday.

1 Juggernauts
16 Bomb Squad
27 Team RUSH
33 Killer Bees
39 The 39th Aero Squadron
45 TechnoKats
47 Chief Delphi
48 Delphi E.L.I.T.E.
67 Heroes of Tomorrow
68 Truck Town Thunder
70 More Martians
71 Team Hammond
93 NEW Apple Corps
101 Striker
107 Holland Christian Team R.O.B.O.T.I.C.S.
111 Wildstang
116 Epsilon Delta
118 Robonauts
121 The Rhode Warriors
125 NUTRONS
135 Penn Robotics
141 WOBOT
148 Robowranglers
171 Extreme Engineering
177 Bobcat Robotics
195 Cyber Knights
217 ThunderChickens
222 Tigertrons
233 The PINK Team
234 Cyber Blue
254 Cheesy Poofs
292 PantherTech
330 Beach Bots
364 Team Fusion
368 Team Kika Mana
461 Westside Boiler Invasion
469 Las Guerrillas
494 Martians
503 Frog Force
573 The MechWarriors
578 Blue Lightning
829 Warren Robotics "Digital Goats"
830 Rat Pack
832 Roswell High School Chimera
868 TechHOUNDS
876 Thunder Robotics
888 Robotiators
910 Foley Freeze
931 Perpetual Chaos
968 RAWC
980 ThunderBots
987 High Rollers
1008 Team Lugnut
1018 RoboDevils
1024 Kil-A-Bytes
1038 Thunderhawks
1094 River City Robots Channel Cats
1098 Rockwood Robotics
1103 Commetron
1108 Panther Robotics
1114 Simbotics
1126 SparX
1243 Dragons
1259 Paradigm Shift
1327 SBotz
1379 Gear Devils
1477 Northside Roboteers
1501 T.H.R.U.S.T.
1503 Spartonics
1519 Mechanical Mayhem
1529 Southport CyberCards
1592 Bionic Tigers
1625 Winnovation
1629 GaCo
1646 Precision Guessworks
1675 The Ultimate Protection Squad
1716 Redbird Robotics
1718 The Fighting Pi
1720 PhyXTGears
1731 Fresta Valley Robotics
1735 Green Reapers
1736 Robot Casserole
1739 Chicago Knights
1741 Red Alert Robotics
1747 HBR
1760 Robo-Titans
1902 Exploding Bacon
2056 Patriotics
2171 RoboDogs
2177 The Robettes
2194 Fondy Fire
2197 Las Pumas
2199 Robolions
2377 C Company
2404 TNT
3000 Team DeWalt

Sincerely,
Andy Baker
submitted on behalf of the IRI Planning Committee

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Wow that's some list, especially with more to come. I don't envy your committee's job.

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Whoa!

Nine of the twelve teams that played on Einstein this year are on the list (including 5 of the 6 in the finals)!
Maybe 60, 348 and 1124 will also apply to "complete the set"?

As usual, IRI is going to be AWESOME!!

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Just glancing at the list of applicant teams, here are some interesting numbers:

28 different teams have won 38 Regional Championships at 22 of this year's FRC Regionals
9 teams were division winners in Atlanta
9 teams were Regional Chairman's Award winners

Andy B.

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Killer Bees
TechnoKats
Wildstang
Bobcat Robotics
ThunderChickens
PantherTech
Frog Force
Digital Goats
Rat Pack
TechHOUNDS
Thunderhawks
Channel Cats
Panther Robotics
Dragons
CyberCards
Bionic Tigers
Redbird Robotics
RoboDogs
Las Pumas


Quite a menagerie.

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Interesting to see that 469 hasn't applied yet. I hope they will be able to make the event and defend their previous wins (I think they have 3?).

Also of note, there are 13 World Championship winning teams (and 17 titles!) currently on the list, 1/3 of the total 39.

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And 5 Hall of Fame teams

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469 has now applied.

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We're thinking about it... maybe.

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After our original app not making it through, 254 has applied as well.

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Great, I was surprised when I didn't see you guys on the original list.

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348 will not be attending. We'll there goes the opportunity for a finals rematch.

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Andy,
Any idea what time Monday invites will be posted?

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

Invitations will be posted by 6 PM Monday, 12 May.
THis will include the 72 teams plus the first teams on the wait list.

Emails will also be sent to all invited teams with instructions on how to continue the registration process.

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Is it 6:00 yet?

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I can already see myself starting the following at around 5:30.

*F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5*

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How about now?

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I'll place a bet that it will be up more towards around 4:30-5ish...or at least start f5'in then....

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Anyone have more information on team 3000, team dewalt?

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Considering they did not compete in the 2008 season, they should not be included in the IRI, they should be accepted in to the pre-rookie challenge.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

That's Greg Needel's new team. As for why they submitted for IRI instead of the pre-rookie event, you'll have to talk to him.

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Team DeWALT is a new rookie team for the 2009 season. We have applied to IRI using a robot which is being built as a pre-season learning activity. That being said there is defiantly an advantage in building a for a previous game after the championships are over. Not only were we able to do raw brainstorming but we could look at other robots which were highly competitive and draw from their ideas and make adjustments for our own need. That being said, our robot is NOT a copy of any specific team.

Because of the geographic location to IRI, it is our closest off-season that we can find, but is still 7 hours away. With the time it takes to get there we felt that going to compete for a one hour pre-rookie challenge would not be worth the financial investment to get the team there.


I disagree with this 100% While we may not have the previous experience on the field of competition this does not mean that we will not be competitive if accepted. Since alot of the performance of a team on the field has to do with the drivers, you could make the same case that only drivers who drove during the 2008 competition season should be allowed. We have volunteered to help IRI, and contribute to it's many different aspects (auction, scholarship, talent show, etc) and we know we have alot to offer. Now we understand that with many competitive teams we have a very good chance that we will not be accepted. Either way the things we have volunteered to do and the robot we are building are representative of a team which is striving to be very Graciously Competitive in the upcoming year both on and off the field.

We hope to see you there...

Greg


P.S. is it 6:00 yet?

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and its up

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Looks like a Hawaii team will be representing there, 368. Wish we could try and attend, but looks like next year.
Good luck to all!

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Where is the list of invites posted? I can't seem to find it!
:confused:

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Glenn: you should come out just to spectate/volunteer. I did in 2004, and it was awesome. Not sure whether it's more fun to compete, or just take in all the awesome competition from the sidelines.

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http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=67620



http://indianaroboticsinvitational.org/iri/ (soon)

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Thanks!! :D

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Almost right on with the time, wooo.

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How much are we allowed to change our robot?

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This information can be found in the 2008 IRI document Chris Fultz published:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...t=IRI+document


XI. The Robot


A. Robots must meet the design and safety requirements of the 2008 “Overdrive” Game
B. Teams have an honorary 5 pound allowance in total robot weight. Bring your Gracious Professionalism. There will be no weigh in or technical inspection.
C. The Referees reserve the right to Disqualify or require Repair or Modification to any robot that appears to be unsafe or is operating outside of the “Overdrive” rules and guidelines.
D. Robots may be highly modified from their official FIRST competition configuration provided they meet rule A.

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no really that big a deal but just wondering... are the practice matches going to be set up just like official practice day matches? meaning will there be a 5 min match followed by a regular match? or just 2 regular matches?

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They will probably do what they have always done, which is one 2 minute practice and then you are done or you can go to the back of the line but there is no guarantee that you will get two matches. I don't know what the plan is but if they are going to get started when they say they are my guess is just 2 minute matches.:)

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

the field will be open for practice matches, run a match, back of the line, run another match, etc.

with this being in July, we are assuming most teams can practice at home and come ready to play, so there is not much practice time allowed.

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ok thanks

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I think someone opened the cage up and let the bird out.

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gah. We've been trying to keep this under our hats.


Regarding the CAGE Match:

This is an event in its very early stages of planning. 1529 and 829 will co-host the inaugural CAGE Match at the Historic Southport Fieldhouse in Indianapolis on Saturday, October 25th. We are planning for 24-36 teams to compete. I believe it is the same weekend as MARC.

Specific details and more information to follow.


p.s.
Cards And Goats Exhibition = CAGE Match

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

Is 1519 going to be allowed to use both of their robots or will they have to use one or the other?

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

"A. Robots must meet the design and safety requirements of the 2008 “Overdrive” Game"

Would lead me to believe they may only use one, as FIRST said their design violated the Overdrive rules.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

Unless, of course, they participate in the Pre-Rookie Challenge.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

IMHO i think they should be allowed to play both robots. Whats it gonna hurt? but thats just me.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

IRI planners could still decide to add this to their patented list of "stupid rules" (Their description. Well, Paul Copioli's anyway... :) ) to repair/eliminate at IRI.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

I was basing it on the assumption that the current set of rules included all the significant changes. That is, as stated, just an assumption though.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

1519 was one of the best hurdlers at Battlecry (I was very surprised when they fell to the 5th pick, and not surprised when that alliance made it to the finals). I don't think they have anything to worry about.

On the other hand, most people's interpretation of the rules as written (as seen on chiefdelphi) thought that the rules allowed 1519's robot, it was only a specious Q/A response that disallowed it. I think the IRI committee could very easily decide that 1519 did follow the rules and allow them to compete with both.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

Though when they went to hurdling exclusively, they added about 20 pounds or so of weight to the front of their robot for counterweight. If they decided to go back to using both bots, then they would have to remove that weight. That may affect their hurdling ability. They are a very good hurdling bot, fast and efficient, so I dont think they would move away from what made them successful.

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

You are a jerk Mike. For the record, I was driving chassis.

On a relevant note, I am dissapointed I will not be attending IRI this year. Something about college (Kettering is year round sorta...) So I am mad I am missing it, it looks to be wicked. Is IRI being webcast by anyone? If so, have laptop will watch through class. :D

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

Yes, there will be a webcast, courtesy of WildStang:

IRI Rules Changes - 2008 - Post #13

BTW, a chassis driver can break the arm off of a robot - just drive it into a wall. As written, your case is a little weak...;)

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

I blame the pit crew ;)


Thank you Wildstang you have given me something to do during class next term (Disclaimer: do as I say, not as I do, pay attention in school)

Re: 2008 IRI (Indiana Robotics Invitational)
 

I am not 100% sure but i seem to remember Pink having something to do with arm problem that 27 was having that day.
mike d