Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

So....the Steelers are 2 games above garbage level? Good to know.

Anderson's not garbage - he's inconsistent, but he's shown he has the arm and the ability to lead the team if his head's in the game. He's certainly done enough to generate enough interest from other teams (Miami would kill for a halfway decent QB) to net the Browns a 1st and 3rd round pick if he's signed away as a restricted free agent. Plus he's been money in my fantasy leagues.

He's also worth keeping around awhile to push Brady Quinn until he actually proves he's worth something - he certainly did extremely well in the preseason.

So uh since the Browns beat Baltimore twice, does that mean they're better than New England if the Pats lose to the Ravens tonight? I say absolutely yes. :rolleyes:

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

"So uh since the Browns beat Baltimore twice, does that mean they're better than New England if the Pats lose to the Ravens tonight? I say absolutely yes. :rolleyes:" - Travis


Sure then that means the Steelers are better than the Browns because they beat them twice ;)

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

But if the Browns beat the Jets, then what......a paradox.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

i firmly believe that the nfl is cheating for the patriots to go undefeted. horrible calls from the refs for the pats to win. they deserve to forfit the season. first the video scandle then this. it discusts me.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

I wouldn't go so far as to say that they should forfeit the season, but I'll definitely agree with the calling. The penalty yards on the Ravens compared to the Patriots are just obscene, and that last drive was stomach churning.

Granted it made for some good excitement (IMO the Bills/Cowboys game was a better game), but seriously...the Ravens had that game, and the refs took it from them.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

May I suggest a new "blueprint" or weakness for the Patriots:
Patriots have problems with birds (close games against the Eagles and Ravens).
Hope they don't meet the Seahawks or Cardinals in the Super Bowl...:rolleyes:

Anyway...
Week 13 results:
boiler.............11
SSMike.............11
461gopher..........10
Alex Cormier.......10
George1902.........10
Koko Ed............10
Lil' Lavery........10
Tim Delles.........10
A_Reed.............9
JackN..............9
Kyle379............9
Pavan..............9
raf4far............8
George A...........7
raymaniac..........7
Tottanka...........7
Travis Hoffman.....7
xzvrw2.............7

Overall Scores:
George1902.........129
JackN..............126
boiler.............126
461gopher..........125
Koko Ed............124
Alex Cormier.......122
Kyle379............117
SSMike.............113
raf4far............112
A_Reed.............111
xzvrw2.............108
Travis Hoffman.....103
XaulZan11..........97
Pavan..............96
Lil' Lavery........93
Tim Delles.........92
raymaniac..........92
65_Xero_Huskie.....79
George A...........78
Cory...............66
Jeremiah Johnson...60
Sumadin............48
Kevyn H............41
Josh Murphy........34
Tottanka...........26
Stud Man Dan.......18
Greg Perkins.......10
Jevin H............9
nukemknight........9
Dolan..............9
FreedomForce.......8
Josh Goodman.......8
SamSofa330.........8
JoeJank103.........6

I'm too swamped with homework and preparing for finals to do the percentage at the moment. If you want to know your percentage, send me a PM and I'll calculate it. Otherwise, I'll post it as soon as I have time.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

Man, someone get me what you guys are smoking. It must be pretty good.

Im totally neutral. I gravitate towards disliking the Pats just because I can (don't like Brady, don't like Moss, think Bellichick is an arrogant you know what)

Every penalty in the last 3 minutes was legit. Watson was CLEARLY being held on that 4th down play. Totally the right call. Billick blew the game for Baltimore when he called that TO.

The TD was questionable. I thought it wasn't a catch. HOWEVER, once a call is made on the field, indisputable evidence must exist that the call was not correct. There was no way, imo, that what was shown on the replays was indisputable. It looked like at the exact moment that his back foot hit the ground, the ball shifted to his other hand. No way you can say outright it was a bad call. At any rate, that wasn't on the refs. That was the replay official in the booth.

Scott (number 57) was a total idiot, though. I thought he should have been tossed. You can't commit a foul, get pissed for committing a foul, pickup the flag, throw it in the stands, and then try to get into a punching match with the referee. Complete and utter stupidity on Baltimore's part to get 35 yards worth of penalties prior to the kickoff.

Finally, on the final play of the game, BALTIMORE committed blatant pass interference when the receiver downright tackled a NE DB while the ball was coming in. That play went uncalled.

Contending that the referees decided the outcome of this game is TOTALLY out of line with reality. Baltimore totally collapsed, and made incredibly stupid mental errors down the stretch when it counted the most, and the Patriots capitalized.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

NFL cheating to help the Patriots? You're kidding me right? Honestly people. And I suppose that the second shooter was watching the game with his Roswell alien buddies and laughing about how George Bush planned 9/11. Because this conspiracy theory belongs right up there with those.
Maybe we should let the refs do their job, and call the game as they see it, from the field mind you. I'm sure we have a spectacular vantage here from our couches and know the rulebook better than the professionals. Good thing too, considering how the NFL is paying the refs to make the wrong calls.
Come on....

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

well refs make bad calls all the time... I usually chalk it up to incompetence, or bad angles to view plays from :-p

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

Technically it wasn't Billick that called for the TO, it was the defensive coordinator, and according to the rules only a player on the field or the Head Coach can call for a Time Out, so the refs screwed that one, but that's neither here or there...it's over and done with, so it's up to someone else to beat the Pats.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

If it's going to be anyone, I'm rooting for Giants Week 17.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

WAIT WAIT WAIT!!!

Are you serious? Have you not heard numerous coaches (and yes hall of fame coaches) come out in the defense of the Patriots and state that video viewing has been going on for a long time in the NFL (and yes during halftime), along with other forms of cheating that they even used?

If you are going to bring up the video scandle, why not bring up the Colts Sound System "Issues" which seem to only happen when there opponents have the ball at home? (or did you forget that)



And refs can't be perfect. Let say that 3 rookies are going against Beatty, Simbots, and Thunderchickens. Lets say its tight right down to the wire, but the refs give the "Big" alliance a penalty (which shouldn't have been called) and the rookies go on to win (The "big" alliance would have won had the penalty not been called). Should these rookies forfiet there season because of the refs?

No. Refing is not always perfect and will never be perfect because humans can not be.

The patriots find a way to win, and they do that (why penalize them for that?) Its not rational at all...

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

I don't remember any coaches coming out in the Patriots defense. I don't think any hall of fame coach would do that anyway.


CBS apologized for a sound system issue after the colts game and here it is:

"In reference to questions regarding the audio transmission of yesterday’s game, please refer to the following statement from the NFL:

CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts game was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast. It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium.

We trust this will put an end to the ridiculous and unfounded accusations that the Colts artificially enhanced crowd noise at the RCA Dome in any way."

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

Really, you guys don't think anyone has ever cheated in a professional sporting event? I do think it was wrong for the Pats to videotape the opponents signals, but they were punished already (lost first round pick). The Colts-Pats game was one of the worst officiated game I have ever seen. Ellis Hobbs got called for the obvious pass interference of Reggie Wayne by get tackled by him. Also, I don't know if you guys know the Omaha audible of the Pats, if I remember correctly they send a man in motion. I bet you guys are wondering how I know that, CBS made sure I did by zooming in and turning up the volume on Tom Brady's mike. Thanks CBS now I know what that means, I am sure all of the other coaches in the league are glad to have heard that as well. The NFL does not want the most unlikable team in football history to be the only 19-0 team. It is about the same as the MLB and Barry Bonds.

Re: 2007 NFL Pick-em: Week 13
 

It's also not uncommon for coordinators and other coaches to call timeouts during NFL games. Keep in mind the ref is focused on a game, and when he hears "TIME-OUT! TIME-OUT! TIME-OUT!" being shouted into his ear he might not always be able to realize that it isn't the head coach that is calling the time-out. Thus why it is rather frequent for assistant coaches to call TOs.