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swalker92 27-01-2008 22:40

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www.bixbyrobotics.org

completely written by team member with a secure login script.

synth3tk 27-01-2008 23:26

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Originally Posted by zim2411 (Post 686996)

I like it so far, but just two things:

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Originally Posted by zim2411 (Post 686996)
The whole site is powered by Smarty except for the phpBB3 forum. (Nothing special there, stock theme)

Another one of my pet peeves, and that's forum navigation. I love what a lot of teams are doing with their forums, whichever software they decide to use. But please Please PLEASE edit the header file to include (at the very least) a link back to the main site. If you need help with that I'd be more than willing to show you how.

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Originally Posted by zim2411 (Post 686996)
Critique + criticism welcome! This is all student designed, so the code/css may not be up to par with W3C standards, but it works on most browsers :) (Except on dulaneyrobotics.com, the top left PNG with the lion head logo and 4 buttons, it appears darker in IE7 - anyone know why?)

Upon further investigation of your code I noticed that you use a .png picture and code in the links at certain places. Brilliant, but that's the downfall. Now I don't know exact why, haven't really tried to find out, but IE apparently doesn't have good PNG support. So even though you probably used the same colors in the editor for the header pattern and the navigation logo, it doesn't match up right. FF is fine, as expected. Somebody who really knows IE's PNG flaw please explain it to me.

Microsoft obviously fail'd at making a super compatible browser. Something that works in EVERY other browser could suck in Internet Explorer, sad part is most people use it.

zim2411 28-01-2008 11:30

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Originally Posted by swalker92 (Post 687040)
www.bixbyrobotics.org

completely written by team member with a secure login script.

Looks good, but you should resize your images in the gallery to make thumbnails. Loading the full images in the page is a big hit on bandwidth and it's much lower quality than resizing the images in a program. (Resizing images in browsers = weird artifacts)

Your code would look like this:
Code:

<a href="images/gallery/8/DSC00571.JPG" target="_new"><img src="images/gallery/8/DSC00571-thumbnail.JPG" width="150">
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But please Please PLEASE edit the header file to include (at the very
least) a link back to the main site. If you need help with that I'd be
more than willing to show you how.
Thanks, I added it right above the Board Index link.

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FF is fine, as expected. Somebody who really knows IE's PNG flaw please explain it to me.
Yeah, I'm really not sure what's up. Opera works perfectly as well.

Blad3101 28-01-2008 12:48

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I believe that IE 5.5+ has a *.png transparency issue (something with the way that it resolves alpha), but I'm not positive that's your error. :confused:

zim2411 28-01-2008 15:24

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Originally Posted by Blad3101 (Post 687292)
I believe that IE 5.5+ has a *.png transparency issue (something with the way that it resolves alpha), but I'm not positive that's your error. :confused:

Yeah, the PNG is not transparent at all. Does IE maybe use color profiles or something like that?

RyanCesiel 28-01-2008 16:51

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Originally Posted by Blad3101 (Post 687292)
I believe that IE 5.5+ has a *.png transparency issue (something with the way that it resolves alpha), but I'm not positive that's your error. :confused:

Our site doesn't support IE 5 and 5.5, only because no one really uses them anymore.

zim2411 28-01-2008 19:21

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Originally Posted by RyanCesiel (Post 687457)
Our site doesn't support IE 5 and 5.5, only because no one really uses them anymore.

I don't even remember what IE5 looked like. Do you have any idea why the PNG on our site appears darker in IE? (Top left)

RyanCesiel 28-01-2008 20:59

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It's difficult to explain, but yes, IE does interpret colors differently than other browsers. In your case, I'm not quite sure why that is showing up lighter/darker. Are you sure you don't have a slight transparency effect on either of the images?

Blad3101 28-01-2008 22:01

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I'd try to create the image with transparency (No background pattern overlaying the second) to see if it makes a difference, the image itself in IE looks different when loaded separately.

JMB226 29-01-2008 09:58

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You may find your answers about .PNG file issues and Internet Explorer here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pngopacity/

Also, a nice program/website I found lets you install IE3, IE4.01, IE5, IE5.5, and IE6 all at once. It can help anyone out who would have browser conflicts in their code like I had... http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE

zim2411, have you tried to take a screenshot of how your site should look (Firefox maybe?) and then crop out a new image with the background intact?

Katusha 29-01-2008 11:05

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It's under a lot of construction. Please I want any and all constructive criticism... Our Site

RyanCesiel 29-01-2008 12:04

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Originally Posted by Katusha (Post 687916)
It's under a lot of construction. Please I want any and all constructive criticism... Our Site

Bravenet is a no-no. :rolleyes:

Blad3101 29-01-2008 13:39

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Well, its not a bad site with the exception of it being under construction, but bravenet free web-hosting and any ads are a major negative in FIRST's eyes. :eek:

wolfj 29-01-2008 15:41

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Originally Posted by Blad3101 (Post 688007)
Well, its not a bad site with the exception of it being under construction, but bravenet free web-hosting and any ads are a major negative in FIRST's eyes. :eek:

I agree! I don't mean to put you down, because the overall design is fantastic, and there's a lot of good information, but any sort of pre-made template, or banner advertising is just... disgusting.

By the way, did anyone else think that this year's website rubric is much easier than last season's? I mean, there's no mention of browser compatability, accessibility, or interactivity anywhere! Not that I'm complaining, but more difficult criteria makes for more interesting competition, doesn't it?

RyanCesiel 29-01-2008 17:20

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Originally Posted by wolfj (Post 688072)
I agree! I don't mean to put you down, because the overall design is fantastic, and there's a lot of good information, but any sort of pre-made template, or banner advertising is just... disgusting.

By the way, did anyone else think that this year's website rubric is much easier than last season's? I mean, there's no mention of browser compatability, accessibility, or interactivity anywhere! Not that I'm complaining, but more difficult criteria makes for more interesting competition, doesn't it?

I would think that, regardless, you would want your website to have cross-platform/browser compatibility because you really don't know what the judges are using to view it.


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