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DRH2o 21-12-2007 23:49

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What is in our hands right now is a mouse !! :yikes:

popo308 21-12-2007 23:49

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Originally Posted by popo308 (Post 662693)
In the top floor of the tower there are two huge 300 ton weights to help the building stay straight. On top of the building there is an observation trolley on tracks that was closed down because of the world trade center crash. I think the coordinates are more concerned towards that building because it is very unique in the way it looks (the other 2 reflecting) and the way it works (the giant weights) As someone else has said the EXACT coordanants point to a LIGHT POLE!! geez! common

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Originally Posted by maltz1881 (Post 662698)
Something I noticed is that it is also on St. James Ave. Anybody up for a game of Monopoly? No sleep for me for the next 2 weeks. :ahh:

same here... no sleep! heck yes!

maltz1881 21-12-2007 23:57

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Originally Posted by JB987 (Post 662664)
Ok, I'm jumping in here...sometimes the truth is before our eyes if we will only see. Coordinates of a square at "Rainbow Street" and we receive an IR board with a rainbow colored multi-cable. A rainbow is arched...arched structure on the field? Also...counterweights/fulcrums could reference a "teeter-totter" field element as other robotic games have used in the past (Woodie had one as an element in one of his classes that was highlighted on a PBS special many years ago)...imagine a huge teeter totter center field and low barriers like 2003?? Ok, enough already...my 4 cents...

I hope and pray FIRST will never do the teeter totter again. It was a diaster that year.

team2061 21-12-2007 23:57

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Originally Posted by popo308 (Post 662693)
In the top floor of the tower there are two huge 300 ton weights to help the building stay straight. On top of the building there is an observation trolley on tracks that was closed down because of the world trade center crash. I think the coordinates are more concerned towards that building because it is very unique in the way it looks (the other 2 reflecting) and the way it works (the giant weights) As someone else has said the EXACT coordanants point to a LIGHT POLE!! geez! common

woodie flowers clue does say something about being careful with jello. jello is unstable just as the building would be without the 300 ton weights. hmmmm

popo308 22-12-2007 00:01

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Originally Posted by team2061 (Post 662706)
woodie flowers clue does say something about being careful with jello. jello is unstable just as the building would be without the 300 ton weights. hmmmm

It was very unstable. engineers actually had to shut it down and add about 3 million dollars of steal cross beams because it was swaying way to much.

popo308 22-12-2007 00:03

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wow not even 7 hours and 200 posts! WOW

joeweber 22-12-2007 00:04

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Remeber the GAME TIP IT, you add weights to tip it one way or the other.

JaneYoung 22-12-2007 00:06

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Originally Posted by popo308 (Post 662708)
It was very unstable. engineers actually had to shut it down and add about 3 million dollars of steal cross beams because it was sawing way to much.

I'm sorry, did you mean swaying? I got a visual of a building 'sawing' other buildings and it had to straighten up and stop.

popo308 22-12-2007 00:08

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Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 662711)
I'm sorry, did you mean swaying? I got a visual of a building 'sawing' other buildings and it had to straighten up and stop.

Yes im sorry i haven't gotten any sleep lately because of CD. My spelling has been horrible today.... :D

ahh but sleep will come soon

steadfasttuna 22-12-2007 00:10

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ok so i have been mulling this over and i have a theory... that is pure speculation

first lets look at the song

Sometimes the light's all shining on me--regular field lights on
Other times I can barely see-- black lights on, field lights off
Lately it occurs to me-- i have nothing
What a long strange trip it's been-- i got nothing


The first two numbers are the coordinates pointing to the light pole with 4 lights. This is referencing the FTC game Quad Quandary. The FRC game will be essentially the same except we will have circles, squares and triangles to put onto corresponding posts. As for the third number, it is the approximate wavelength of black light so randomly the field lights will go out and black lights will come on. The posts that we have to score on will be emitting different IR frequencies and that is how the robot will know what post it is in front of during autonomous and when the black lights are on because the drivers will not be able to see the posts.

team2061 22-12-2007 00:10

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I cant stop hitting the refresh button every 10 seconds!!! awwwwww!!!!! no sleep for me this winter break!!!

popo308 22-12-2007 00:12

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Originally Posted by steadfasttuna (Post 662715)
ok so i have been mulling this over and i have a theory... that is pure speculation

first lets look at the song

Sometimes the light's all shining on me--regular field lights on
Other times I can barely see-- black lights on, field lights off
Lately it occurs to me-- i have nothing
What a long strange trip it's been-- i got nothing


The first two numbers are the coordinates pointing to the light pole with 4 lights. This is referencing the FTC game Quad Quandary. The FRC game will be essentially the same except we will have circles, squares and triangles to put onto corresponding posts. As for the third number, it is the approximate wavelength of black light so randomly the field lights will go out and black lights will come on. The posts that we have to score on will be emitting different IR frequencies and that is how the robot will know what post it is in front of during autonomous and when the black lights are on because the drivers will not be able to see the posts.

Very cool concept that would look cool to because you can actually see the infa-red signal in black light. its cool

Scott L. 22-12-2007 00:13

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In refrence to the weights in the top of the building, I think episode 4 of the first season of Numb3rs deals with a building being unstable when the wind struct the building at a certain angle. The solution, if memory serves me, was to add the system of moving weights on the roof.

Just a possiblility, remember one years hint was "a shovels show" in refrence to Davis Spade of just shoot me. :D

popo308 22-12-2007 00:15

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Originally Posted by Scott L. (Post 662718)
In refrence to the weights in the top of the building, I think episode 4 of the first season of Numb3rs deals with a building being unstable when the wind struct the building at a certain angle. The solution, if memory serves me, was to add the system of moving weights on the roof.

Just a possiblility, remember one years hint was "a shovels show" in refrence to Davis Spade of just shoot me. :D

Interesting... Its weird how woodies hint about jello is actually somewhat relevant since we have this huge building which at one point was very "jelloish" as well. (unstable)


ok so not exactly jello but hey its a thought.

JaneYoung 22-12-2007 00:18

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Originally Posted by Scott L. (Post 662718)
In refrence to the weights in the top of the building, I think episode 4 of the first season of Numb3rs deals with a building being unstable when the wind struct the building at a certain angle. The solution, if memory serves me, was to add the system of moving weights on the roof.

Just a possiblility, remember one years hint was "a shovels show" in refrence to Davis Spade of just shoot me. :D

I think Andy Grady was talking about this earlier, if it is the same kind of idea.
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