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KcTechTeacher

05-01-2008 16:58

Tote

Does anyone have a tote modeled in inventor? You know the ones that everything comes in.
Thanks Jay

vivek16

05-01-2008 17:08

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Sorry but I don't. I will search for you. May I ask what you need them for?

-vivek

EDIT: didn't find them at firstcadlibrary.com

Nate Laverdure

05-01-2008 22:14

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Originally Posted by vivek16 (Post 668659)

Sorry but I don't. I will search for you. May I ask what you need them for?

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

KcTechTeacher

07-01-2008 08:52

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We are thinking about using them as part of our robot. Might make a nice easy housing.

Elgin Clock

07-01-2008 09:29

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Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure (Post 669210)

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

A question may need to be posed to FIRST just to be sure of the rules for this year though.

Richard Wallace

07-01-2008 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure (Post 669210)

The totes themselves are part of the KOP. This means that they could definitely be used on the robot. The trackball doesn't fit inside, though...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 670968)

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

A question may need to be posed to FIRST just to be sure of the rules for this year though.

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

Elgin Clock

07-01-2008 09:43

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 670973)

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

http://www2.usfirst.org/2007comp/Man...klist_RevE.pdf
Page 4 lists the Red Tote from 2007's manual.
That is a good point.

I think the question definitely needs to be asked now as I am only going from memory on this one.

Nate Laverdure

07-01-2008 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 670973)

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

Yes.

In Section 10 of the manual I see this section:

Quote:

The FIRST 2008 KoP is provided in multiple containers. They consist of the following packages:
1 – FIRST large black plastic tote for pickup at Kickoff
1 – FIRST large grey plastic tote for pickup at Kickoff
1 – Innovation First, Inc. KitBot box for pickup at Kickoff
1 – Innovation First, Inc. Electronics Kit for pickup at Kickoff
2 – BaneBots motors for pickup at Kickoff (RS540 & RS550)
1 – FedEx envelope for pickup at Kickoff

Since the electronics kit and BaneBots motors are also listed here, I assume that all containers are also parts of the KOP.

The totes are COTS anyway, right? This means that they should not be disallowed.

Tristan Lall

07-01-2008 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Elgin Clock (Post 670968)

Just a quick heads up. In the past use of any boxes, or say... plastic totes that parts came in from the KoP have been generally disallowed as far as being part of the robot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 670973)

The totes are explicitly listed on the 2008 KoP Checklist. (DC2717-12, black on page 5 and grey on page 17). Has that been the case in previous years?

That's a rule in FTC (and several of its predecessors), but has not been a rule in FRC within recent memory.

The boxes do meet all the requirements for kit parts, and COTS parts, so they're allowed either way.

KcTechTeacher

07-01-2008 10:23

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Tote can be use. This is for the 06 season. They have been a KOP as long as we have been involved.

Elgin Clock

07-01-2008 10:26

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I guess I stand corrected on this issue.

Darn memory isn't what it used to be. :ahh:

AndyB

11-01-2008 01:54

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Make sure you ask on the Q&A before making a final decision.

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