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Another thing about this, is that in past years the refs discounted all points made out of penalties. So if you were to remove your ball from the opponents overpass, by either exceed the 6' rule or breaking the plane going clockwise, you could discount some if not all the points made by that ball.
One more thing that confuses me, is that in the game animation in hybrid mode the red forklift robot clearly exceeded the 6' rule and knocked its ball off the opposing alliances overpass. It is an animation, and not the most accurate way to get rules. I think they just did that so to have all balls in play. Personally I believe that there will be an amendment to the rules that you can only exceed the 6' plane in order to get your trackball. As it is right now there are really only 2 ways that I can think of to get it off the over pass. 1) use the other track ball and launch you other track ball into the one on the opposing alliances overpass 2) some how stack 2 robots so that the top robot is able to knock you track ball off the opposing alliances overpass without expanding to a height of over 6' (this does not violate any of the rules, because all the rules dealing with either entanglment on climing onto another robot say it is not acceptable to do to robots on the opposing alliance) these are just my thoughts, please post a correction if there is something wrong |
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I think it's going to be fun watching teams try. |
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The first strategy seems legal though nigh-impossible to accomplish. The second is illegal as offensive or defensive ramping is illegal. (Rule <R19>) The idea of removing the ball from the quadrant opposite the opponent's home stretch across the opponent's finish line still stands as legal assuming you don't cross the plane of the finish line. |
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Could you start on another robot, as long as you are touching the back wall? |
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I really don't see any other way that a robot could be placed on another robot without giving valuable resources (such as time and weight budget space) on a mechanism to pick up another robot. I don't think that that is a likely course of action. With all the noise this has stirred, I'm sure that a rule change will be made or at least a clarification made. |
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So, since 2005, our robots have always had a 9 1/2 degree wedge, which is perfectly legal. |
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There is another strategy a team can you to knock off the trackball on the opposing side. In the Hybrid mode you only receive a penalty of two points when going above the 6' zone. This would allow you to use that trackball in the telioperated period rather then having to knock it down in the telioperated period and potentially losing 10 points or more.
If I have misread the rules please clarify for me. Thank you. |
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Maybe the GDC wrote these rules on purpose and they intend that the only way you can get your second trackball is when your opposing alliance removes your trackball to avoid the 12 points for being on the overpass at the end of the game.
Maybe my memory is faling, in the past, didn't we usually get the score from the game animation? Perhaps there were several things shown that penalties were given for? Don't assume that everything seen in the animation was legal. i.e. reaching over from one quad to another with a manipulator that is obviously over six feet above the opposing alliances home stretch to remove a trackball placed in the overpass. Perhaps the illustration was to say that even though the trackball was removed, it was still counted and the robot violated the height rule? |
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Very good point. We cannot assume that everything in the animation is legal.
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We gonna try to reach the other ball on autonomous mode. The animation shows that in Hibrid Period you can get the ball with your bot above 6 feet... PS: I hope that you can understand my english...:o |
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So, independent of the match moment, our robot CAN'T stay above 6 feet? |
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