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COACHTJ1688 05-01-2008 22:14

BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
I wanted to be able to work with the control system at my home so I recently purchased a radio shack bench power supply model # 22-510.

It ranges from 12-13.8 volts and its 25 amps. It is switched but not variable amperage output.

Will I blow up the RC if I use this for power while testing?

If so, any suggestions on us9ing a switched power supply? Is there any way to rig up a voltage regulator...or an amperage regulator, perhaps a dimmer switch?

I can't find any specs on the battery itself. I don't have one inf rom of me and I'm guessing at model numbers on the mk battery site.

COACHTJ1688 05-01-2008 22:34

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Looking deeper into some other posts I've found that the RC has an internal regulator?

Can anyone confirm this?

HotWings 05-01-2008 22:36

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COACHTJ1688 (Post 669238)
Looking deeper into some other posts I've found that the RC has an internal regulator?

Can anyone confirm this?

You'll be absolutely fine! When you charge the batteries from the Kit, they sometimes go as high as 14.7volts! I am our teams electrical captain, and i permit you to continue with your work :P

COACHTJ1688 05-01-2008 22:37

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
I'm worried about amperage. The output is 25 amps.

coreyjon 05-01-2008 22:39

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Welcome to Chief Delphi first. Second of all, your question is one of caution, and thats good. Don't want to fry anything. That is a very powerful power supply, a bit overkill for the controllor. The input voltage is 12 volts (ideally - as a battery rated at 12 volts will actually have a voltage slightly higher when fully charged, and slightly lower when running out of juice). the power supply is rated at 25 amps (which is a good deal of power). So, if you needed to, you could draw that much current, however, there is no limit to how little current you can draw. Car batteries are often rated for very high amperage, for things like starting your car, but your radio works just fine from the same battery. I can't verify that there is a built in regulator onboard the controllor, although it would make sense. You know you can never assume though. I could be completely wrong, my coffee level is pegged at empty, and it's been a few years since digital electronics - but if it were me, I'de connect it. Just remember to connect first, then turn on power, otherwise you could get a spike in power...and that very well could fry it.

HotWings 05-01-2008 22:39

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COACHTJ1688 (Post 669251)
I'm worried about amperage. The output is 25 amps.

Yes i know, It should be fine.. Amps at that level shouldn't really mean anything. And plus like you said i am 99% sure there is a built in regulator in the board. 1 sec though.

COACHTJ1688 05-01-2008 22:42

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Thanks for the quick replies. This is my first foray into programming. I'm normally the welding/build guy.

I've seen my share of magic smoke released from electronics...and I'd rather not destroy a brand new RC if I can help it.

HotWings 05-01-2008 22:42

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http://www.ifirobotics.com/docs/firs...up-charger.pdf

Theres the wiring diagram. Seems like its there to me :P

Like the other guy said, its only going to draw the amps it needs.

DonRotolo 05-01-2008 22:43

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Electrical circuits only use as much amperage as they need.

Water pressure is like voltage, while water flow rate is like current (Amperes).

If you turn on a faucet, it doesn't matter if the pipe behind it can supply a thousand gallons per second, the faucet will "use" what it uses. If, however, the pressure (voltage) gets too high, the faucet may burst - so keep the voltage below around 14 volts and you'll be fine. 25 Amps is the max, the circuit determines what it "uses".

Note: Switched power supplies need some load to regulate properly. be sure something is connected to it before switching it on. Maybe won't matter, but cheap insurance.

Good luck,
Don

COACHTJ1688 05-01-2008 22:44

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
I'll keep the receipt handy. HAHA.


Thanks for the help. I'll make sure to report my findings to either this forum, or the fire department...or both.

yongkimleng 05-01-2008 23:05

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
I'm not sure whats the quality of your PSU, but what I'd do on an unknown PSU (including those for computers):
1. Connect up voltmeter parallel to the 12v rails
2. Add a 12v load: maybe a 12v fan or two.
3. Fuse in series with your 12v line: I think 10A is more than enough?
4. A switch [S1] in series with your 12v line just BEFORE your control systems

So you turn on your psu first, but leave S1 off. Check the voltage and if you're happy, turn on S1. Reason being some switching PSUs start off with a voltage >>> 12V for a few milli/micro seconds immediately after turn-on and may fry your stuff. Just a precaution :)

Rickertsen2 05-01-2008 23:54

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
It will be fine. The regulation circuitry is pretty robust. I've seen one of these things take a short spike of about 24v and live happily through the rest of a season. The power supply you mention should keep the RC comfortable.

popo308 05-01-2008 23:57

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by COACHTJ1688 (Post 669251)
I'm worried about amperage. The output is 25 amps.

The O/I can draw a max of 1000ma ((1amp) (i believe)) 25 amps i think is a bit much?? :ahh: :ahh: :ahh: :ahh:

karlcswanson 06-01-2008 00:07

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
If you just need to power the RC, you might be able to save a few dollars and just use an old 12V wall wort transformer with some female spade connectors crimped on to it. The backup battery might even work when hooked up to the 12V terminals.

HotWings 06-01-2008 00:17

Re: BENCH POWER SUPPLY - Help!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karlcswanson (Post 669390)
The backup battery might even work when hooked up to the 12V terminals.

Not a good idea to me lol.


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