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Ellery 06-01-2008 00:15

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
Well if people are devious enough to try to pull something like this off at a FIRST competition they shouldn't be part of FIRST to begin with. It's like blatantly building ramp bots to flip people over.

That's why so much of the kickoff has been emphasizing GP and the main goals of FIRST.

frewre06 06-01-2008 00:29

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellery (Post 669403)
Well if people are devious enough to try to pull something like this off at a FIRST competition they shouldn't be part of FIRST to begin with. It's like blatantly building ramp bots to flip people over.

That's why so much of the kickoff has been emphasizing GP and the main goals of FIRST.

I completely agree with that. I mainly wanted to illustrate the shortcomings of IR as a control interface.

That, and while everyone involved with FIRST should be concentrating on GP, it doesn't preclude outside pranksters from being devious. (Though, this is likely far fetched, as someone with the knowledge to do this, wouldn't likely use it for evil! :) )

-S

Pavan Dave 06-01-2008 00:43

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frewre06 (Post 669429)
I completely agree with that. I mainly wanted to illustrate the shortcomings of IR as a control interface.

That, and while everyone involved with FIRST should be concentrating on GP, it dosen't perclud outside pranksters from being devious. (Though, this is likely far fetched, as someone with the knowledge to do this, wouldn't likely use it for evil! :) )

-S

To some degree though GP is killed with FIRST. If you scream fire for hours on end than eventually people tune out the fire. I don't mind an introduction by one of the guys (preferably Woody) and than a "reminder" type deal at the end by someone, but fitting GP into every sentence and every topic is getting irritating to the point where I wanted to mute the kickoff feed because it was so redundant.

People who participate in FIRST are generally "better" people who just think like this because we are bored but don't really act upon these random ideas that we get. (We because the community as a whole has ideas that are better left out of the first playing field.) But point being, they need to cut down on the GP in speeches or they need to use a thesaurus or something so people don't fall asleep assuming everyone is reiterating the same thing...

Tim Arnold 06-01-2008 01:07

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
Eep.
Quote:

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arbershametaj 06-01-2008 01:15

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
This was not something thought of as something to be done to gain an advantage. We are only taking a look at all possible things that can happen.
I am all for GP ( although being constantly reminded arouses the feeling to press the mute button ) but if you payed attention to the HW spreading first to other people besides team members is one of its objectives and trust me people allways think that pranks are funny.

If ninja/pirate remote is used we will know someone is doing it because there are projectors and TVs everywhere so we will know the perpetrators.

So I am not trying to offend anyone but please hold the GP comments and how someone should not belong there and actually try to see if there might be a KISS solution so a simple problem because safety why is also big in first and when robots start to "bug out" people might get hurt.

PS
the tube solution wont really work when your trying to send information to your robot as its moving away from you or towards.

keen101 06-01-2008 01:30

Re: Possible Problem!?
 
Should be fine, but it may be a gamble. There may well be audience members with those. :)

If you still want one, but want to learn basic electronics, then i recommend this one from ladyada.

http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?ma...e16d31fd423f94


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