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waialua359 08-01-2008 23:04

BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
With all of the issues we've read about the IR, I think Dave Lavery and co. were hoping teams would look beyond the box and figure what they would do with it.
I havent seen it in another thread and would think that teams will eventually catch on to this.
Hint:
1. We dont know where they are placing the balls since its random? Right??????
2. We think its a waste of time to control the robot using the IR since the range is limited?

What are we thinking of?:D :D :D

popo308 08-01-2008 23:05

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 672998)
With all of the issues we've read about the IR, I think Dave Lavery and co. were hoping teams would look beyond the box and figure what they would do with it.
I havent seen it in another thread and would think that teams will eventually catch on to this.
Hint:
1. We dont know where they are placing the balls since its random? Right??????
2. We think its a waste of time to control the robot using the IR since the range is limited?

What are we thinking of?:D :D :D

using the Remote to tell the robot what autonomous to run.... :ahh:

spinmunky 08-01-2008 23:09

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
ahh I get it, since there are 4 balls and you can program 4 buttons... you tell your robot which ball slot to go to using the remote.

Alan Anderson 08-01-2008 23:11

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
It's obvious to me that the expected four signals/actions are something like this:

1) Knock off the ball in the leftmost spot
2) Knock off the ball in the center spot
3) Knock off the ball in the rightmost spot
4) Just go!

Branden Ghena 08-01-2008 23:14

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
If those actions seem obvious to everyone else (they do to me), maybe the GDC wanted something completely different?

T3_1565 08-01-2008 23:18

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
we are treating each lane of the track as three lanes (as there are three places the ball could be on that lane) two of our buttons will be used to "change lanes" so we are always underneath our ball!!

Daniel Bathgate 08-01-2008 23:19

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tawnos23 (Post 673015)
If those actions seem obvious to everyone else (they do to me), maybe the GDC wanted something completely different?

They seem obvious to me as well... but extremely hard to accomplish. Ah the joys of being the programmer.

Guy Davidson 08-01-2008 23:22

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 673011)
It's obvious to me that the expected four signals/actions are something like this:

1) Knock off the ball in the leftmost spot
2) Knock off the ball in the center spot
3) Knock off the ball in the rightmost spot
4) Just go!

Agreed. That's what was clear to us and that's what we're planning to do.

basicxman 08-01-2008 23:25

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
why cant you do this and it would be an extra 15 seconds of tele-operated basically:
button 1: move robot forwards
button 2: move robot in reverse
button 3: turn robot left
button 4: turn robot right

popo308 08-01-2008 23:26

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 673029)
Agreed. That's what was clear to us and that's what we're planning to do.

It's quite obvious that would be the best way to use the remote...
But who knows there always could be a different/better way to use it?!?! :D

:yikes:

Binome 08-01-2008 23:27

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by basicxman (Post 673033)
why cant you do this and it would be an extra 15 seconds of tele-operated basically:
button 1: move robot forwards
button 2: move robot in reverse
button 3: turn robot left
button 4: turn robot right

You sure can, but why?
With the addition of a few IR/Ultrasound range sensors, a gyro and encoders and some code you can have a robot that will drive around the track fully auto, and just use your IR remote for telling it what ball to knock down.

Gdeaver 08-01-2008 23:31

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Allen,
I think that is exactly what Dave wants us to use the IR for. The intelligence is on the robot. We give it an action we want it to accomplish and the robot takes the action on it's own. If a team wants to use the IR as another form of remote operation they are going to have some hard problems to over come like the interference issues.

Cow Bell Solo 09-01-2008 00:15

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
What about

1. Drive Forward
2. Turn Left
3. Turn Right
4. Knock the trackball off.

for IR buttons

laultima 09-01-2008 00:44

Re: BEST USE of the IR Remote!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cow Bell Solo (Post 673088)
What about

1. Drive Forward
2. Turn Left
3. Turn Right
4. Knock the trackball off.

for IR buttons

thats what ive been thinking.
question: In the teleop-period ive been thinking the IR remote can be used to signal the drive team (ie. pressing one button will turn one OI light on, etc). Is it legal to have the four buttons have different actions in different periods of the game, or could I use an if-statement so in teleop the IR wont change any values, just turn on lights?

JohnC 09-01-2008 01:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by laultima (Post 673106)
Is it legal to have the four buttons have different actions in different periods of the game, or could I use an if-statement so in teleop the IR wont change any values, just turn on lights?

<R69> The ROBOT shall not dynamically change the recognized command set during a MATCH.


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