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Woody1458 12-01-2008 18:17

pic: 1458 Manipulator prototype1
 

Seraph117 12-01-2008 18:18

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cool... looks a little faulty though...

just think what would happen if someone hits you hard when you have the ball

Akash Rastogi 12-01-2008 18:26

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Originally Posted by Seraph117 (Post 676326)
cool... looks a little faulty though...

just think what would happen if someone hits you hard when you have the ball

And that's why we prototype:rolleyes:

Woody1458 12-01-2008 18:37

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the angle is deceiving, there are two posts on top, one on bottom. we plan on adding plastic sides but of course we cant fully enclose (only 28" of bot, 40" of ball)

abeD 12-01-2008 19:15

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If the belt is pushing down hard enough it doesn't look like it will come loose, I like this design nice job on the prototype. What kind of reduction/rpm is the belt running at?

=Martin=Taylor= 12-01-2008 20:20

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Cool! Looks like you guys are doing great this year!

We prototyped a design just like this on day 2 and it seemed to work well. However, I think you'll find that unless you are planning to build a very low drivetrain you may not be able to get the forks under the ball. A lower roller might be necessary...

Woody1458 12-01-2008 22:00

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Originally Posted by abeD (Post 676386)
If the belt is pushing down hard enough it doesn't look like it will come loose, I like this design nice job on the prototype. What kind of reduction/rpm is the belt running at?

Its a CIM running at a speed reduction of 2:1, we could put a higher ratio on it, but even at this low ration it is able to do everything we ask of it.

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 676417)
Cool! Looks like you guys are doing great this year!

We prototyped a design just like this on day 2 and it seemed to work well. However, I think you'll find that unless you are planning to build a very low drivetrain you may not be able to get the forks under the ball. A lower roller might be necessary...


Thank you, we are further ahead of schedule this year then last, hopefully if you pick us again we will be more of a help :). We have the bottom fork further behind then the top rollers, approximately 10". This allows the ball to come in contact with the rollers before the bottom forks. We haven't designed our drivetrain yet because This is our leading design, so if we select this design our base will be radically different. (probably a foot shorter then limit, and an open front)

gizzlyMIKE000 14-01-2008 23:51

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wow that is so cool my idea was the same and this week i am working on a prototype and thats cool hows yours does it and also i was going to us two on top would that almost work better? with maybe one prong or maybe 2 prongs or just one solid ramp with grip.:]

gizzlyMIKE000 14-01-2008 23:53

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also were would you get the CIM moters are they in the kit?:o

EricH 14-01-2008 23:55

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Originally Posted by gizzlyMIKE000 (Post 678159)
also were would you get the CIM moters are they in the kit?:o

Yes. Or you can get two in addition to the two in the kit. (total of four on the robot)

redbarron 14-01-2008 23:55

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We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?

laultima 15-01-2008 01:07

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Originally Posted by redbarron (Post 678163)
We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?

we are planning on hurdling with this, ill try to get a good test out of it tomorrow going reverse. this is just a prototype and ive been told the rollers the treads are on dont roll very good, so we wont get very accurate numbers.

gizzlyMIKE000 15-01-2008 14:22

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hey team 1485 are you guys going to give up one of your cim moters to power that hand? and what kinda tred do you to suck in the ball? is that a tank tred?:yikes:

gizzlyMIKE000 15-01-2008 14:23

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we were planning on hurdling but now we are herding

Woody1458 15-01-2008 14:48

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As Designer and builder of this prototype I will try to answer any questions you guys have.

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Originally Posted by gizzlyMIKE000 (Post 678158)
wow that is so cool my idea was the same and this week i am working on a prototype and thats cool hows yours does it and also i was going to us two on top would that almost work better? with maybe one prong or maybe 2 prongs or just one solid ramp with grip.:]

As I said before its a bad angle, There are 2 prongs at top creating three prongs 1 underneath (only 1 to save weight) 2 on top (the belting spreads between them)

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Originally Posted by redbarron (Post 678163)
We were considering this and i was just wondering what kind of distance and speed do you get out of that when you reverse the motors? Are you planning on hurdling?

This being just a prototype, It was built to prove the theory not complete the job. The rollers are poorly made And I will probably want to perfect the belt system. But even with these issues, It was able to spit the ball out straight up, but only to have it roll out no flight.

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Originally Posted by gizzlyMIKE000 (Post 678510)
hey team 1458 are you guys going to give up one of your cim moters to power that hand? and what kinda tred do you to suck in the ball? is that a tank tred?:yikes:

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I went OSH and they had this very flexible rubber stuff, I think used for weather stripping or something, was 1' 6" in width, cross section looked like this

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We decided on a CIM because Its small and fast, but people are still arguing over it so its not final.


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