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Travis Covington 15-01-2008 23:29

pic: 254/968 More Swerve Parts!
 

Brad Voracek 15-01-2008 23:30

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Swerve? Oh boy. This will be quite the experience to see you guys... ;P

EricH 15-01-2008 23:47

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Originally Posted by Brad Voracek (Post 678967)
Swerve? Oh boy. This will be quite the experience to see you guys... ;P

Hmm...Stuff has been leaking out of the Poofs' shop. Apparently, 1868 shares the shop. They've released a frame pic that looks like the Poofs' traditional frame. I would guess, though it's kind of improbable, that 1868 is collaborating with the Poofs/RAWC group. The frame pic can't handle a swerve at all. In fact, it's a six-wheel frame.

Nice attempt at misleading.

Eugene Fang 15-01-2008 23:51

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still using these then?
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/29514

Aren_Hill 15-01-2008 23:53

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lies! lies i say, this travis is a sneaky kid he had me going

Cory 15-01-2008 23:57

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 678986)
Hmm...Stuff has been leaking out of the Poofs' shop. Apparently, 1868 shares the shop. They've released a frame pic that looks like the Poofs' traditional frame. I would guess, though it's kind of improbable, that 1868 is collaborating with the Poofs/RAWC group. The frame pic can't handle a swerve at all. In fact, it's a six-wheel frame.

Nice attempt at misleading.

Only two teams are part of our collaboration ;)

EricH 16-01-2008 00:00

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 679002)
Only two teams are part of our collaboration ;)

I did say improbable.

waialua359 16-01-2008 00:31

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 679002)
Only two teams are part of our collaboration ;)

anytime you need add one more to make a trio, let us know.
We'll send pineapples, shave ice, and macadamia nut chocolates on a regular basis.
Actually, your old design pics are priceless. ;)

esquared 16-01-2008 12:56

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 679002)
Only two teams are part of our collaboration ;)

So this year will be the year of the twins instead of the triplets?:cool:

Brandon Holley 16-01-2008 13:46

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That is one heck of a shaft...nice

lukevanoort 16-01-2008 15:48

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I don't believe it. The other picture has what looks to be the drive shafts for the outer wheels, and these look like the transmission output shafts. With those parts, it could be a coaxial swerve, but these output shafts seem excessively long for that.

roboticWanderor 21-02-2008 21:15

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they are going their normal west coast drive this is the exact part for thier dog shifting transmission output shaft! lies i tell you!:p

Travis Covington 21-02-2008 21:24

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Originally Posted by roboticWanderor (Post 704702)
they are going their normal west coast drive this is the exact part for thier dog shifting transmission output shaft! lies i tell you!:p

What makes you say we still aren't going with swerve? Our modules aren't the ones pictured, but who says we don't have some of our own? hmm?:D

chaoticprout 21-02-2008 21:40

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Oh Travis, you're a funny guy.

MWB 29-08-2011 21:03

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Hey Travis, Did you do these with soft jaws on the mill? Or just a 4th Axis? I was hexing a few shafts at work the other day and we used a lathe with live tooling and a tailstock center. What in your opinion is better?

Mc Kenna 30-08-2011 00:55

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 679038)
anytime you need add one more to make a trio, let us know.
We'll send pineapples, shave ice, and macadamia nut chocolates on a regular basis.
Actually, your old design pics are priceless. ;)

Glenn you get my vote for collaborating with us if you send chocolate and yes 1868 shares the lab

Cory 30-08-2011 01:44

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Originally Posted by MWB (Post 1075237)
Hey Travis, Did you do these with soft jaws on the mill? Or just a 4th Axis? I was hexing a few shafts at work the other day and we used a lathe with live tooling and a tailstock center. What in your opinion is better?

These are made on a screw machine. Similar to a live tooled lathe, except there's a bushing in the headstock that allows the material to be fed out to the tool, so you're constantly cutting at the spindle nose with no overhang. I'm not aware of any machine that can make these more efficiently.

techtiger1 30-08-2011 12:38

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Yeah Cory here is a question for you, how long have you been making that same shaft? I pretty sure you guys have that one down to a science, it doesn't get any more efficient then a screw machine either. Great stuff, out of curiosity whats your tolerance on the machined hex?

Travis Covington 30-08-2011 12:49

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We have made shafts similar to these since 2007. The 2006 shafts were slightly simpler and didn't have the 5/8" hex. Each year the shaft changes slightly as well, usually to accommodate differing gearbox configurations, wheel width changes, etc.

The tolerance on the hex portions of these shafts is +-.0005, but that may be overkill depending on the precision you require and the amount of slop you deem acceptable.

AdamHeard 30-08-2011 12:59

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Originally Posted by Travis Covington (Post 1075328)
We have made shafts similar to these since 2007. The 2006 shafts were slightly simpler and didn't have the 5/8" hex. Each year the shaft changes slightly as well, usually to accommodate differing gearbox configurations, wheel width changes, etc.

The tolerance on the hex portions of these shafts is +-.0005, but that may be overkill depending on the precision you require and the amount of slop you deem acceptable.

We no longer made them this way, but just for reference to everyone our very first set was made on a manual lathe, and then hexed on a manual mill with a cnc indexer (just lets you specify rotation angle). We've also made a few in house as a proof of concept, and simpler ones for other systems, both on a manual mill and manual lathe.

For season our sponsor with a live-tooled lathe runs them, the next best thing to a screw machine in this case.

Aren_Hill 30-08-2011 13:07

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For small amounts of in house things we use a manual indexer on the mill, during season a sponsor with a live tooling lathe makes them.

MWB 30-08-2011 21:50

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Originally Posted by Cory (Post 1075253)
These are made on a screw machine. Similar to a live tooled lathe, except there's a bushing in the headstock that allows the material to be fed out to the tool, so you're constantly cutting at the spindle nose with no overhang. I'm not aware of any machine that can make these more efficiently.

Oh we have 7 Citizen machines at my work, but my boss thought that it wasn't worth the setup time to use them for such a small order. I was even using ground stock that we bought for the screw machines too!


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