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Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

BURDEN 1625!!! This is funny because I am at college.

From what I have heard they are planning on finishing early, and I sure they would be glad to help.

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

Rookies should hope to have a team like Winnovation to turn to for help. They are a high quality team. Set up a time when you can meet for pizza or go over to thier shop and pick their brains. Don't wait. You should have a driving base by this weekend so your drivers can start practicing. Be sure the exterior dimensions of the base are correct.

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

I've gotta use all the knowledge i get from too much CD surfing for something you know..

I can help you on pretty much any robot subject besides programming you'll have to go to popo(brent) for that.

we were glad to have you up a couple days ago sounds like it helped alot. Feel free to stop on by or call us anytime, we'll make some trips down to see you sometime.

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Hey Oregon,

Feel free to stop by any time. We are more than willing to give you a hand. Hope the build season is going well. Don't get to stressed out yet just take it one step at a time. Get the chassis working and then worry about the auxiliary system. Good Luck! Hope to hear from you soon!

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

As many of the people on here will tell you, just ask. PM me specifics on what's going wrong or slow and I'll try to help you as much as I can. I'm a programmer for my team and I can help you there as much as possible.
I know the 3DS Max animation software (you get get it by registering and registering your team on firstbase.autodesk.com) but I don't think the animation is required for the competitions; could someone clarify this for me? (My team is hectic this year as well and I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get it done)
Everyone has their own personal rookie year, and yes it is crazy. But that's FIRST! What is FRC without the lack of sleep and stress?
With any other subjects that I don't know specifics on, I can ask my team.

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

Animation is not required (which is probably a good thing, since my team doesn't have enough manpower to do that and build a robot). It just means you can't win the animation award.

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

Ill let you in on a little something that might be helpful.... If you can make your robot roll you can rack up BIG POINTS!!!!! Its too bad I just moved back to Florida otherwise I would have loved to help you guys out. I was in Rockford for the last 9 months.

Good luck.
~Drew

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

Stick to the basics is what I would say. As stated above, don't worry about animation or awards. Also, don't create so many departments in your team that will stress you out. Try combining departments together. Example: my team has combined the electrical team with the programming team. Remember what Woody said, "Find the simplicity in the complexity." I'm sure though that your team will get things done and will be ready for your first regional. And if you get stuck at a regional, ask other teams there to help. They will be happy to help.

Good Luck from Team 858, the Delphi Demons!

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

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Originally Posted by OregonRoboHawks (Post 679409)

I'm a sophmore on a team that's entirely new to this competition. We have about 14 people on our team and maybe two or three mentors at this point who know what they're doing.

So far we seem to be pretty far behind. We have had a lot of problems getting started.

Our team is made up of sophmores, freshman, and a few junior high school students. Of this group, only four or five are actually committed to this project. Still, even they do not always show up for our meetings. We are totally inexperienced in this field and have very little knowledge as to what we are supposed to do. This applies to almost every aspect of our robot. Another problem we have is that our mentors are usually unable to attend the nightly meetings. This means that we are not really able to gain the knowledge we need in order to complete our robot.

Design team
The design team is made up of three sophmores. I am the only one who can attend every night. None of us know how to use CAD at this point. All three of us are going to be working on programming as well. Right now, all three of us are on at least 2 other teams and are a little swamped. At this point we have only completed a rough draft of our final design that is not drawn to scale or dimensioned.

Electrical team
This team is pretty much non existent at this point. We have had an electrician come in last night and he got us a little more organized. Once again, as we are all lower classmen and come from a small school, we do not have any experience in electrical components.

Mechanical team
This team is slightly better off because we have shop and welding classes in our school. Still, many of the members making up this team are alittle....immature. Maybe more than alittle.

Programming team
The programming team is made up of myself and another member from the design team as well as a few more members. He at least has some experience in programming. Unfortunately, he is the only one who has an idea of what hes doing. One more problem with this is that we cannot access the EasyC Pro software included in the KOP because our license is missing or expired.

Animation
Pretty much nonexistant. We have no animation software besides AutoCad and the software included in the KOP.

Spirit team
This team is basically made up of three mom's who have been helping us out a lot.

At this point we are trying to assemble our chassis. It is not going well. We do not have a way to make the axles fit into the wheels. As we have no electrical experience we do not know how to assemble all the components on the chassis.

We are being mentored by the Winnovation team (1625) in Winnabago IL. So far they have done a great job but we do not want to burden them with our problems. It is our short comings that are making this difficult. We are very frustrated by our lack of progress. We would love to have some advice on anything you can think of.

Thanks
Oregon RoboHawks
Team 2364

First off, Welcome to FIRST and welcome to CD.

I guess my biggest advice to you would be to limit what you are doing, so you don't get overwhelmed. DO NOT TRY AND DO EVERYTHING. Pick a strategy and do that well. 1824 is in our 3rd year and we're still doing this.

Ignore that which isn't required. CAD drawings can follow the robot build. You need a working robot shipped ontime. So concentrate on building and getting your robot functional. Things like CAD and Animations are nice additions, but are not required for a successful season.

It's good to hear that you have a spirit team going strong. If you target the 'team spirit' award and have a reliable robot you'll have an excellent shot at the 'rookie all-star' award. And that award will get you an invite to the championship event.

Good luck, and remember ... we're doing this to have fun :D

P.S. if you need any help, feel free to PM me.

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Originally Posted by Aren_Hill (Post 680754)

we were glad to have you up a couple days ago sounds like it helped alot. Feel free to stop on by or call us anytime, we'll make some trips down to see you sometime.

People don't seem to want to respond to this topic, but it's been so successful for us in remotely videoconferencing with other teams, I'm going to keep hammering this point home until someone gets it:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=61782

I have found this to be a very effective method of connecting with other teams remotely - use the remote desktop software to view Inventor models on each other's remote computers, use it to take control of programming software remotely to help fix bugs in code, and use a videoconferencing tool such as Skype (or NetMeeting, or LiveMeeting, or......) coupled with a laptop and webcam to see how the team in need is progressing on their build and make suggestions where needed in realtime.

This is no substitute for the veteran team visiting the team in need in person, but let's be realistic - that can't happen very often. This teleconferencing solution helps fill in the gaps of support without overtaxing the resources of the veteran team offering the assistance.

Re: Rookie team in need of a lot of help

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Originally Posted by OregonRoboHawks View Post
I'm a sophmore on a team that's entirely new to this competition. We have about 14 people on our team and maybe two or three mentors at this point who know what they're doing.

So far we seem to be pretty far behind. We have had a lot of problems getting started.

Our team is made up of sophmores, freshman, and a few junior high school students. Of this group, only four or five are actually committed to this project. Still, even they do not always show up for our meetings. We are totally inexperienced in this field and have very little knowledge as to what we are supposed to do. This applies to almost every aspect of our robot. Another problem we have is that our mentors are usually unable to attend the nightly meetings. This means that we are not really able to gain the knowledge we need in order to complete our robot.

Design team
The design team is made up of three sophmores. I am the only one who can attend every night. None of us know how to use CAD at this point. All three of us are going to be working on programming as well. Right now, all three of us are on at least 2 other teams and are a little swamped. At this point we have only completed a rough draft of our final design that is not drawn to scale or dimensioned.

Electrical team
This team is pretty much non existent at this point. We have had an electrician come in last night and he got us a little more organized. Once again, as we are all lower classmen and come from a small school, we do not have any experience in electrical components.

Mechanical team
This team is slightly better off because we have shop and welding classes in our school. Still, many of the members making up this team are alittle....immature. Maybe more than alittle.

Programming team
The programming team is made up of myself and another member from the design team as well as a few more members. He at least has some experience in programming. Unfortunately, he is the only one who has an idea of what hes doing. One more problem with this is that we cannot access the EasyC Pro software included in the KOP because our license is missing or expired.

Animation
Pretty much nonexistant. We have no animation software besides AutoCad and the software included in the KOP.

Spirit team
This team is basically made up of three mom's who have been helping us out a lot.

At this point we are trying to assemble our chassis. It is not going well. We do not have a way to make the axles fit into the wheels. As we have no electrical experience we do not know how to assemble all the components on the chassis.

We are being mentored by the Winnovation team (1625) in Winnabago IL. So far they have done a great job but we do not want to burden them with our problems. It is our short comings that are making this difficult. We are very frustrated by our lack of progress. We would love to have some advice on anything you can think of.

Thanks
Oregon RoboHawks
Team 2364

Well FIRST of all, let me congratulate your team for joining the FIRST community.
You are going through hard times getting started, we understand that.
Actually not only do we understand that, but we also had the same apprehensions last year when we were rookies and the only team in the suburbs of Haifa in Israel.

The fact that some team members don't always show up, you don't know where to start, it all sounds so familiar.

You need to know that FIRST acknowledges the fact that it's ten times harder to run a rookie team and therefore there is the Rookie All- Star award you are eligible to be candidates of.

My team takes part second year and we are mentoring rookie teams on how to win the most prestigious award FIRST bestows to rookie teams.

It is about the impact of the FIRST program on your community, how you act in order to spread the word about it, what you do for your community, how you raise interest to science and technology, and many more.

It doesn't seem likely for my team to arrange a meeting with yours as we live miles away.
However, we can offer you guidance through the internet.
You can PM me at any time.
Sometimes a small good piece of advice makes all the difference.

:)