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robogeek753 21-01-2008 18:16

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by tagger (Post 682987)
I'd say the no detachable parts. I thought a robot with a detachable tower mechanism would work really well, detach the tower, and the smaller mobile half can go run around and push trackballs at the tower that will do all the lifting, get both speed and be able to throw balls over ><.

Sorry, but that's been a rule since the beginning of time (at least my time in FIRST). Besides, how would you get power to it? It would still be wired to the robot. Many rules beside the explicit one would make it so you couldn't detach robot parts. (The explicit rule is so that you don't leave stuff all over the field that could hurt other robots).

I have also never seen a properly designed and built frame brake at a FRC competition (including ours; YAY ALUMINIUM!)

EricH 21-01-2008 18:20

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by robogeek753 (Post 683021)
Sorry, but that's been a rule since the beginning of time (at least my time in FIRST).

It made its debut in 1998. The year before, a particular team had made an extremely effective robot that intentionally detached a part and prevented other teams from scoring. So, FIRST decided to outlaw that type of behavior. Detaching mechanisms or parts intentionally has been illegal ever since.

Capt. Quirk 22-01-2008 15:43

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by Jherbie53 (Post 682364)
I originally voted weight but now that I've thought about it the 80" max rule is the limiting factor. With the trackballs being 40", and your max starting width without falling down is 38", it's going to be hard to grab around the trackballs and not go over that dimension.

Yup. Somewhere between the ground and lifting to the overpass it's likely you will exceed the 80" limit.

MasterRobot 22-01-2008 21:02

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
hey we're new this year
could somebody please explain what a flopbot is?

:confused:

EricH 22-01-2008 21:08

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by MasterRobot (Post 683900)
hey we're new this year
could somebody please explain what a flopbot is?

:confused:

A robot whose drive train is oriented along the 5' dimension. Due to starting rules, these robots must start with their drive mostly off the ground and then either fall or slide so that the 5' dimension is on the ground. Research team 71 in 2002 or team 67 in 2005 to get a better picture.

Rick 23-01-2008 00:13

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 683026)
It made its debut in 1998. The year before, a particular team had made an extremely effective robot that intentionally detached a part and prevented other teams from scoring. So, FIRST decided to outlaw that type of behavior. Detaching mechanisms or parts intentionally has been illegal ever since.

121 had such a device. Made scoring up top impossible after it was placed.

I've also heard of a team that dropped "land mines", small pyramid shaped objects coated with velcro (to stick to the carpet) which would "beach" and stop an opponent who ran over them.

EricH 23-01-2008 00:15

Re: Most Limiting Robot Restriction/Rule?
 
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Originally Posted by Ricksta121 (Post 684089)
121 had such a device. Made scoring up top impossible after it was placed.

I've also heard of a team that dropped "land mines", small pyramid shaped objects coated with velcro (to stick to the carpet) which would "beach" and stop an opponent who ran over them.

I wasn't thinking of you guys--you already (popularly) have the "no tipping" rule.:rolleyes: I believe another team had one as well.


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