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pentau 07-03-2008 21:15
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 714439)
iMovie would be able to do this, assuming you have a big enough hd for the footage.
Any ideas on how much space would be needed for the three days of footage? 20 gigs? 40? I need to know if I need to bring an extra hard-drive...

Thanks!

Kyle Fenton 07-03-2008 21:37
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentau (Post 714455)
Any ideas on how much space would be needed for the three days of footage? 20 gigs? 40? I need to know if I need to bring an extra hard-drive...

Thanks!
DV at 720x480 (SD) is typically 1 gb for every 10 minutes. It is a very large lossless format that is mainly used in digital video editing. Is there any other codec you could use?

StevenB 07-03-2008 22:48
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
I've created a page on FIRSTwiki to store all of the information about archiving and webcasting in one place. I've tried to fill in what I could, but that's not much. :)
If those of you with experience could add to it, that would be very helpful to all of us who are doing this for the first time.

DeAnnaC 08-03-2008 00:08
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
We used a Panasonic DVR (it has a hard drive and a DVD burner) to record the St. Louis Regional. It had 19 hours of hard drive space available. It was recorded in SP mode and after it was split on the recorder, it took 6+ DVD's to copy the data to, which was then reformatted on the pc and trimmed up before uploading.

I'm not sure if that helps or not..

pentau 08-03-2008 12:23
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 714463)
DV at 720x480 (SD) is typically 1 gb for every 10 minutes. It is a very large lossless format that is mainly used in digital video editing. Is there any other codec you could use?
Thanks for the information. Does anyone know a better way to record on a mac? Are there any programs that just can record video feeds from a firewire input? Or can you just change the import format in iMovie? (The computers we will be recording with aren't with me right now) Thanks!

Kyle Fenton 08-03-2008 13:33
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentau (Post 714654)
Thanks for the information. Does anyone know a better way to record on a mac? Are there any programs that just can record video feeds from a firewire input? Or can you just change the import format in iMovie? (The computers we will be recording with aren't with me right now) Thanks!
That depends on your input device. Some are DV only, some could encode into MPEG-4 or divx also.

What I use is a cheap DVD recorder from Panasonic. Its great, and I don't have to worry about anyone steeling an expensive laptop. A PVR would be a better solution, because you wouldn't have to worry about the switching the DVDs.

If you are looking for a good input device for your laptop you can check out El Gato's Hybrid or the 250 +. Both can encode a lot of video without using a lot of disk space.

pentau 08-03-2008 13:57
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 714463)
DV at 720x480 (SD) is typically 1 gb for every 10 minutes. It is a very large lossless format that is mainly used in digital video editing. Is there any other codec you could use?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fenton (Post 714669)
That depends on your input device. Some are DV only, some could encode into MPEG-4 or divx also.

What I use is a cheap DVD recorder from Panasonic. Its great, and I don't have to worry about anyone steeling an expensive laptop. A PVR would be a better solution, because you wouldn't have to worry about the switching the DVDs.

If you are looking for a good input device for your laptop you can check out El Gato's Hybrid or the 250 +. Both can encode a lot of video without using a lot of disk space.
I have a Sony DVMC-DA2 (Maybe a DA1). (http://www.shopping.com/xPF-Sony-DVMC-DA2-DVM-CDA2) Does anyone have any experience recording regionals with them? They seem to have some sort of hardware conversion system...

ham90mack 09-03-2008 16:40
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentau (Post 714654)
Thanks for the information. Does anyone know a better way to record on a mac? Are there any programs that just can record video feeds from a firewire input? Or can you just change the import format in iMovie? (The computers we will be recording with aren't with me right now) Thanks!
What I have always done with capturing MiniDV video to my computer is to capture it in DV format (1 hour is from 11-14 GB :ahh: ), transcode it to DivX (1 hour is usually between 800 MB and 1.5 GB, depending on original quality and randomness of video), and delete the original video. You could probably transcode to mp4 instead if you wanted too, just as long as the quality stays near the same. This method especially helps when needing to capture 15+ tapes for a video project :ahh: .

pentau 09-03-2008 17:44
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ham90mack (Post 715192)
What I have always done with capturing MiniDV video to my computer is to capture it in DV format (1 hour is from 11-14 GB :ahh: ), transcode it to DivX (1 hour is usually between 800 MB and 1.5 GB, depending on original quality and randomness of video), and delete the original video. You could probably transcode to mp4 instead if you wanted too, just as long as the quality stays near the same. This method especially helps when needing to capture 15+ tapes for a video project :ahh: .
Hmm...sounds good. I am looking into maybe borrowing a faster computer so I can use something like Quicktime Broadcaster (apparently it can record in h.264 to the disk from a DV input). That way I wouldn't have to use so much disk space.

Jonathan Norris 12-03-2008 20:59
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
We still have a couple regionals that need to be covered for week 3, is anyone out there willing/planing to record; Chesapeake Regional, Connecticut Regional, Detroit Regional, Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional.

Code:
Regional                                        Volunteer
Suffield Shakedown
Rochester Rally                                Ed Patterson (Koko Ed, team 191)
Week 1
BAE Systems Granite State Regional              Kyle Fenton (team 121) *may need parser
Midwest Regional                                WildStang 111 (possibly...)
New Jersey Regional                            SOAP (team 108)
Oregon Regional                                Madison Krass (M. Krass, team 488)
St. Louis Regional                              DeAnnaC
Week 2
Arizona Regional                                Andrew (Donut, team 498)
Finger Lakes Regional                          Ed Patterson (Koko Ed, team 191)
Greater Kansas City Regional
NASA / VCU Regional                            Anish (aksimhal, team 1123)
San Diego Regional                              AJ (ay2b, team 980)
Week 3
Boilermaker Regional                            Mike Aalderink (mike AA, team 2015)
Brazil Regional                                sloteera (team 1860), Bruno (Thexder, team 1382)
Chesapeake Regional
Connecticut Regional
Detroit Regional
Florida Regional                                SOAP (team 108)
Peachtree Regional
Pittsburgh Regional
Silicon Valley Regional                        AJ (ay2b, team 980)
Wisconsin Regional                              Kevin Kolodziej  (team 1675)
Week 4
Buckeye Regional                                David Thomas (blakcheez, team 964)
Lone Star Regional                              Kevin Sevcik (team 57)
Los Angeles Regional                            AJ (ay2b, team 980)
Microsoft Seattle Regional                      Madison Krass (M. Krass, team 488)
Oklahoma City Regional
UC Davis Sacramento Regional                    Doug G (team 701)
Waterloo Regional                              Jonathan Norris (team 610)
West Michigan Regional                          Mike Aalderink (mike AA, team 2015)
Israel Regional
Week 5
Bayou Regional
Boston Regional                                Greg Marra (The Blue Alliance)
Colorado Regional
Great Lakes Regional
Greater Toronto Regional
Hawaii Regional
Las Vegas Regional
Minnesota Regional                              Kevin O'Connor (Vikesrock, team 2175)
Palmetto Regional
Philadelphia Regional
SBPLI Long Island Regional
Championship                                    SOAP (team 108)

Nancy O. 13-03-2008 12:14
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
We're willing to help record the Peachtree (week 3) and Palmetto (5) regionals, however we're not sure we have the right equipment. We have a member with a RCA cable that he says can plug in to his computer, but is not sure that is the easiest way. Could we use a DVD player or VCR?

Chris Marra 13-03-2008 21:09
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
I talked to the crew from 230 who are webcasting the Connecticut Regional. They intend to archive all of the matches to DVD for conversion / parsing later on.

pentau 14-03-2008 19:53
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
I recorded all of Chesapeake on Friday in the h.264 format. I plan to do the same tomorrow--I'm just not sure how long it will take me to edit it (cutting out the time between matches and scores, etc) I think some other teams also recorded it? Could we work together?

Joe Ross 16-03-2008 14:31
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
I just purchased a Pinnacle Video Transfer which records in H.264 directly to an external hard drive (no computer needed).

I will be testing it out at the Los Angeles Regional.

Mike AA 16-03-2008 19:00
Re: Archiving Recorded Regionals 2008
 
Someone was using one of these at Boilermaker this weekend and it seemed to work well and very easy to setup. I was interested, but I dont like the external harddrive thing... although you can swap drives (he used a usb flash drive) and download to a computer.

-Mike


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