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team 2191 25-01-2008 20:15

Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
We really need to know about this motor it is vital for us to keep going...please if u know anything it will be greatly appreciated..thank you

Sincerly Ben, Team 2191

EricH 25-01-2008 20:19

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by team 2191 (Post 685917)
We really need to know about this motor it is vital for us to keep going...please if u know anything it will be greatly appreciated..thank you

Sincerly Ben, Team 2191

What exactly are you looking for? We can help you better if we have more details.

rachal 25-01-2008 20:24

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Physical dimensions?

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...2016640238.pdf

team 2191 25-01-2008 22:34

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
What is the ft/lbs of each motor.... Thank you....im dumb and i havent got it together yet

team 2191 26-01-2008 11:15

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
We need to know the torque for the motor

Chinaman07 26-01-2008 14:54

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
what is the torque?????????

thefro526 26-01-2008 16:56

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Ours lifts 30+ pounds of elevator no problem. I think the torque is around 30 f-lbs or so

Al Skierkiewicz 28-01-2008 07:39

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
In case you haven't found it yet. Check John V Neun's calculator at
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2059 it lists all you may need to know.

rmlondon 28-01-2008 09:17

Re: Please help ordering extra Taigene window motors
 
Any one know how we order extra Tiageen motors for a backup? Anyone know an order number for it?

Rob
RobotFutures 2116

MrForbes 28-01-2008 09:25

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
You probably cannot buy them anywhere, since it does not appear on the IFI FIRST parts store page

http://www.ifirobotics.com/first-store.shtml

But it is likely that there will be teams bringing their unused motors to the regional competitions, so you might be able to scrounge one if needed.

Also you can post a wanted ad on the CD-swap, maybe a team who's not using the motor will give/sell you theirs.

T3_1565 01-02-2008 20:25

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
does anyone know how to hook them up to anything??? we can't find anything to connect it to

CRBreingan 02-02-2008 18:24

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
to hook them up to the victors? My team put one on today, we just cut the wires and added extenders to them to reach the victors.

Is anyone having problems with these motors? They're supposed to do something like 75 rpm. But we're getting about 35 rpm out of them. We check the battery and even ran it off of an independent power supply and they were still running slowly. Our elevator was supposed to reach top in 4 seconds, we're getting there in 8-10 seconds. Anyone else having this problem?

Vikesrock 02-02-2008 18:27

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CRBreingan (Post 690900)
to hook them up to the victors? My team put one on today, we just cut the wires and added extenders to them to reach the victors.

Is anyone having problems with these motors? They're supposed to do something like 75 rpm. But we're getting about 35 rpm out of them. We check the battery and even ran it off of an independent power supply and they were still running slowly. Our elevator was supposed to reach top in 4 seconds, we're getting there in 8-10 seconds. Anyone else having this problem?

I don't have the motor specs in front of me, but if that is where you got 75 RPM from it is almost certainly Free Speed or No Load Speed. This is how fast the motor shaft rotates with no load on it whatsoever. With a load on it the motor shaft will rotate slower. How much slower depends on the motor curve, a good approximation for the curve is a straight line from the no load speed to the stall torque.

EricH 02-02-2008 18:28

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CRBreingan (Post 690900)
Is anyone having problems with these motors? They're supposed to do something like 75 rpm. But we're getting about 35 rpm out of them.

Free speed or loaded speed? Usually, motor speeds are given as free speed. Typically, you want to design the motor for 75% of free speed while under load. It sounds like you didn't, so you may need to do a redesign.

Gdeaver 02-02-2008 18:36

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Some where the was a post with the specs on this years taigene motor. I think the no load rpm is ~ 48. See this thread
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...hlight=Taigene

popnbrown 06-02-2008 16:26

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
I've been looking for Taigene Window Motor, and have not been able to find any. Where would I be able to find this motor?
Any websites?

Thx,
Team 1403

RyanN 06-02-2008 17:09

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
The Taigene motor is much weaker and slower than it has been in previous years. Our mechanism took 8 seconds, and struggled rather than the 3 seconds it was supposed to take no problem. Look at the PDF that I found here on Chief Delphi that a team made, it is the same that is posted above.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/at...5&d=1201226890
For connecting it, cut the connector off, and attach your own connectors. I would connect it to a Victor to give you more control, but if you don't need speed control, a Spike will work great.

There was one of the Taigene Van Door motors included in the kit (black with a silver sideways output shaft, red and green wires, should say delphi on it). I'm not sure where to buy them, I checked ifirobotics and banebots and they did not have them. Look in the Section 10 of the manual and it may show it.

viktoria 12-02-2008 16:18

Re: Please help.....Taigene window motors
 
Does anyone know what model, make, and year of the car that uses taigene motors!

please let me know its crucial!:o


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