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7-11number1 27-01-2008 17:07

Team 1711 prototype
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/23220170@N07/

Heres a few images of the robot design we've created. The "jaws" are pneumatically operated and grab the ball loading it to the arm. When the arm is raised the ball is parallel with the over pass and the upper jaw launches it over. We originally were going to use 2 tread wheels and 2 mechanums but then opted for all mechanum. Questions comments or suggestion are appreciated.

Jaybee1405 27-01-2008 17:10

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looks awesome!

do you stay within the 80" rule?

7-11number1 27-01-2008 17:24

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we stretch out to 81 inches when the arm lifts up and is in possession of a ball. Luckily its the third week so we can adjust for that

DarkFlame145 27-01-2008 17:28

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very impressive

s_forbes 27-01-2008 17:32

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Very clever design! I'd love to see a movie of it doing it's thing, it looks like it would be very fun to watch.

IndySam 27-01-2008 17:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 7-11number1 (Post 686834)
we stretch out to 81 inches when the arm lifts up and is in possession of a ball. Luckily its the third week so we can adjust for that

Remember it's not 80" long it's fitting into a 80" circle.


BTW I love the design.

esisso 27-01-2008 17:36

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we have a freakishly similar design....may i ask what material you used for the "jaw"....also how do you close it up to fit inside starting position.....congratulations on an amazing looking robot

here is our design (sadly we dont have anyone experienced with CAD) so we use chalk and a board...the design is to scale..we have a protoype, much like yours except with a different method of gripping the ball (we used PVC...i dont personally like the pvc idea i like yours much better)


Jaybee1405 27-01-2008 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 686837)
Remember it's not 80" long it's fitting into a 80" circle.


No it's not. You may not have any two points more than 80" apart (horizontally).

MrForbes 27-01-2008 17:42

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That's neat! uses up a lot of air though, doesn't it? we are also dealing with air consumption issues :)

IndySam 27-01-2008 17:43

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Originally Posted by Jaybee1405 (Post 686842)
No it's not. You may not have any two points more than 80" apart (horizontally).

<R16> Once the MATCH has started, the ROBOT may assume a PLAYING CONFIGURATION that exceeds the size dimensions specified in Rule <R11>. While in the PLAYING CONFIGURATION, the ROBOT may expand up to a maximum horizontal dimension of 80 inches (e.g. all parts of the ROBOT must fit within an imaginary 80-inch-diameter upright cylinder).

Read this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&highlight=r16

MrForbes 27-01-2008 17:45

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We've been thru the 80" rule discussion in a few different threads...and the Q&A addresses it also....the circle thing is an example, but the rule says only that you can't have two points further apart than 80" in a horizontal direction.

Measuring this can be a bit difficult.

esisso 27-01-2008 17:47

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oh and can i reccomend you use the same tread that u used for the traction wheels as ball "grippers" they grab the ball like no other

Jaybee1405 27-01-2008 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 686846)
<R16> Once the MATCH has started, the ROBOT may assume a PLAYING CONFIGURATION that exceeds the size dimensions specified in Rule <R11>. While in the PLAYING CONFIGURATION, the ROBOT may expand up to a maximum horizontal dimension of 80 inches (e.g. all parts of the ROBOT must fit within an imaginary 80-inch-diameter upright cylinder).

Read this http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&highlight=r16

I was told by an official FIRST regional inspector that it is not an upright cylinder. The shape is more like a very high piece of pie (ex. take an 80" long piece of extrusion and make a sweep from the farthest point.

Thank you Squirrel.

7-11number1 27-01-2008 18:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by esisso (Post 686841)
we have a freakishly similar design....may i ask what material you used for the "jaw"....also how do you close it up to fit inside starting position.....congratulations on an amazing looking robot

here is our design (sadly we dont have anyone experienced with CAD) so we use chalk and a board...the design is to scale..we have a protoype, much like yours except with a different method of gripping the ball (we used PVC...i dont personally like the pvc idea i like yours much better)


The Jaws are made from some AL pipes one of our mentors shop had lying around. As to fit in the starting dimensions the Jaws fold up against the arm almost vertically. Its just barely under height restriction and the 80in rule is a little touchy for us. Were gonna have to bend or shorten the jaws slightly

7-11number1 27-01-2008 21:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by esisso (Post 686841)
we have a freakishly similar design....may i ask what material you used for the "jaw"....also how do you close it up to fit inside starting position.....congratulations on an amazing looking robot

We used 1" electrical conduit and a pipe bender. Also, if you use conduit, DO NOT DRILL THROUGH IT or flatten it. Use pipe clams to avoid creating potential failure points. Note: Last year at the Michigan regional a team constructed an arm out of PVC and it snapped.


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