Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

ok well the motor can only handle 30lbs as far as I can remember. so that may be the problem.

Secondly, are those motor exactly the same, or are they a left and a right? (cause I think there are left and right versions). if they are the same they may be fighting eachother like I said earlier.

Hopefully that stuff helps and I hope I'm not wrong about anything:D :D

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

alright, well even with the second motor, shouldn't it be distributing the load?
they are both a right or a left (not sure which) but we have one of them inverted because yes they would have fought each other if we didnt invert one.

we are working with our engineers that helped us with the arm and we are coming up with some ideas that may also help.

one of the seniors on our team said thursday night "hey frates(a coach), arn't these the motors we kept blowing in '05? i guess they blew 5 before the shipped in '05...and now they bring it up..ha oh well.

i thank you for your help.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

<R59> only permits servos and additional CIMs

I'd reccomend switching to Keyangs or Fischer-Prices, if one taigene
motor can't do this.
Also, that looks like very little reduction for an arm of that size. Assuming that the arm takes any more time to raise than a moment, and that reduction is about 5:1, you are putting tremendous load on the motors. You might want to consider further reduction.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

but those motors were in the kit of parts... well at least one was, and the other is the same thing

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

Note the emphasis in my previous post. Just because a motor is in the kit dosen't mean you can automatically use as many of them as you want on your robot.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

how does that say i can only use one?

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

<R60>, on the other hand, states that, other than the motors specifically mentioned in the last part of <R59>, you cannot use more motors than what is given in the kit.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

i see what you are getting at...

gahhhh. this really really really really really hurts us...
these rules are really confusing.

i thank your for pointing this out, we must now find away around this...

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

I would reccomend taking what you have, and placing additional gear or chain reduction down to either 2 Keyang motors, 2 Fischer-price motors (looking at your bot, it looks like you have the machining capability to make an adaptor for the kit gearbox,) or, with enough reduction, a single Taigene motor.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

by fisher price motors do you mean the CIM motors or the plastic ones?

we have never used the plastic ones before, what do you think about them?

and with the kit gear box, what would we make it adapt to?

thank you for all of your help again!

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

Have you considered using a default for the FP motor?
we are currently using that with a 11 tooth sprocket to a 110 (i think) for major reduction and it is under a TON of load... it is performing well though. You wouldn't need that big of reduction but a similar idea with a reduction i'm sure you could life that thing right up.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

i am not to familiar with what you are talking about. for the FP motor you are talking about the big plastic one? correct?

if you could, please explain, we are open to any and all ideas right now.

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

The FP motor is the little silver one with a silver gear on it... it goes into the huge plastic gear box but you don't have to put it through that... you could use a bane bots or a dewalt.... they are small but VERY powerful

http://kidswheels.com/vmchk/Gearboxe...els-Other.html - a fisher price motor on the gearbox

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ook i see what you mean now.
im not so sure we will ever do business with banebots again after last year...
is there anything else besides those two?

Re: HELP!!!!! Taigene motor load
 

you could always get a FP gearbox that turns it into the same output type as a CIM and run it through a gear box (like the kit boxes) you could actually prob run 2 thru 1 box

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