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DustinB_3 06-02-2008 21:49

Team 935 Electronics
 

Jaybee1405 06-02-2008 21:56

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
Nice. Very organized, I like how you hide all the wires.

No spikes? I assmued there was at least one cylinder on that manipulator you guys have.

DarkFlame145 06-02-2008 21:59

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
dang, 2 maxy blocks?

vhcook 06-02-2008 22:03

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That second Maxi block needs to be directly connected to the Rockwell PDB. (See the sixth bullet on <R50>)

Apart from that, it looks great.

ea6b607 06-02-2008 22:10

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
very nice organization.....wish we could afford garolite.

DustinB_3 06-02-2008 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vhcook (Post 693622)
That second Maxi block needs to be directly connected to the Rockwell PDB. (See the sixth bullet on <R50>)

Apart from that, it looks great.

OOps, thanks for that catch. I'll be sure to change that tomorrow.

We aren't using spikes. We are using a motor and soon to be motors to lift our elevator. The van door motor doesn't have enough torque to lift our mechanism and the ball so we are going to try 2 van door motors and see if that works.

DustinB_3 06-02-2008 22:35

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ea6b607 (Post 693626)
very nice organization.....wish we could afford garolite.

I don't know what garolite even is. The plate is aluminum with carbon fiber backing.

divergentdave 06-02-2008 23:04

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
The ATC fuse panel should also be directly connected to the PDB. In this photo, it looks like it is connected to one of the two Maxi blocks. Furthermore, are you using red wire for that? It's hard to tell, but it looks black in the picture.

Besides these little nit-picks, very nice board. It looks really neat, no rat's nest of cables.

DustinB_3 06-02-2008 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by divergentdave (Post 693683)
The ATC fuse panel should also be directly connected to the PDB. In this photo, it looks like it is connected to one of the two Maxi blocks. Furthermore, are you using red wire for that? It's hard to tell, but it looks black in the picture.

Besides these little nit-picks, very nice board. It looks really neat, no rat's nest of cables.

Wow I totally missed that. I didn't even realize I made that mistake. That's also something I am going to have to fix tomorrow. I connect the black wire where the red should have gone and forgot to put the other wire on altogether. The ATC is connected to the PDB, I just connected it wrong. Thanks for catching all of my stupid mistakes

sdcantrell56 07-02-2008 00:07

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Also you can only use 1 van door motor. Maybe you are talking about the window motors.

DustinB_3 07-02-2008 08:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 693715)
Also you can only use 1 van door motor. Maybe you are talking about the window motors.

Could you please quote the rule. I looked but couldn't find the restriction.

<R59> Additional motors specifically permitted on 2008 FRC ROBOTS include:
All motors, actuators, and servos provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts,
HITEC HS-322HD servos,
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) servos (Innovation First part number 276-2162),
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) motors (Innovation First part number 276-2163),
One or two additional 2-1/2” CIM motors (part #FR801-001 and/or M4-R0062-12 in addition
to those provided in the Kit Of Parts. This means that up to four, and no more, 2-1/2” CIM
motors can be used on the ROBOT.

This is the only rule I could find and it says that you can buy additional motors as long as they are the same as what's in the kit of parts.

GaryVoshol 07-02-2008 08:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 693715)
Also you can only use 1 van door motor. Maybe you are talking about the window motors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustinB_3 (Post 693806)
Could you please quote the rule. I looked but couldn't find the restriction.

<R59> Additional motors specifically permitted on 2008 FRC ROBOTS include:
All motors, actuators, and servos provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts,
HITEC HS-322HD servos,
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) servos (Innovation First part number 276-2162),
FIRST Tech Challenge (FTC) motors (Innovation First part number 276-2163),
One or two additional 2-1/2” CIM motors (part #FR801-001 and/or M4-R0062-12 in addition
to those provided in the Kit Of Parts. This means that up to four, and no more, 2-1/2” CIM
motors can be used on the ROBOT.

This is the only rule I could find and it says that you can buy additional motors as long as they are the same as what's in the kit of parts.

So close. Look here:
Quote:

<R58> Motors, pumps, and, Robot Controllers from previous robots shall not be used in addition to
those provided in the 2008 Kit Of Parts. They may be used as direct one-to-one SPARE
PARTS
for those provided if the provided part fails or is damaged. They can only be used if
they are identical to the part being replaced.
(emphasis mine)

<R59> should not have used the first word "Additional" as it misleads people. "Additional" should have been only in the CIM bullet point.

The first bullet point says you can use motors found in the KoP. It does not say that you can use extra copies of those motors. One van door motor was given in the kit; one may be used.

DustinB_3 07-02-2008 08:33

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Wow, your right I must be as blind as a bat. I skipped right over that rule. Thanks for your help. Looks like we're stuck using 2 FP motors. Has anyone had any experience with them. Do they have sufficient torque and are they robust enough? Any suggestions?

GaryVoshol 07-02-2008 08:45

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Also see this Q&A: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8568

And this: http://forums.usfirst.org/showthread.php?t=8142

DustinB_3 07-02-2008 08:59

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 693816)

We're probably going to use 2 FP motors and gearboxes not window motors.

vhcook 07-02-2008 11:36

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
I didn't notice this before, but what gauge wire are you using from the PDB to the ATC panel? I believe it's supposed to be #6 per R50, and that looks like #10 or #12.

DustinB_3 07-02-2008 12:18

Re: Team 935 Electronics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vhcook (Post 693873)
I didn't notice this before, but what gauge wire are you using from the PDB to the ATC panel? I believe it's supposed to be #6 per R50, and that looks like #10 or #12.

I don't remember I'll have to check. I have to redo the ATC anyway. Thanks for the catch.

roboticWanderor 09-02-2008 23:27

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im wondering what the inspectors are going to think of that... will they make you take off those channels and reveal the possible rats nest underneath?


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