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holty531 10-02-2008 17:19

actuator does not extend!
 
if we extend the actuator, then turn on the robot, the actuator retracts.

when we pull the trigger button:

relay6_fwd = p2_sw_trig;
relay 6_rev = 0;

the green light on the spike relay goes on, then the yellow LED on the festo solenoi goes on, but the actuator does not go on!

is this a programming problem or penumatics problem?

kevin.li.rit 10-02-2008 17:25

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
What PSI are you running through the Festo?

holty531 10-02-2008 18:20

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
the main pressure regulator is at 60psi

Clifford 10-02-2008 22:10

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Is that what's running into the actuator or do you have a secondary regulator (Monnier) between the Festo and the actuator?

kevin.li.rit 10-02-2008 22:12

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
The Festo has to run at atleast 30 PSI, I assume that's why Clifford and I were asking.

Binome 10-02-2008 22:17

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Did someone turn the little flow control valves on the actuator (if mounted) all the way off?

holty531 11-02-2008 00:32

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
i decided to just not use the festo and try out the smc single solenoid, and that works like a charm. it extends when we press button and retracts when we let go without us changing the simple program.

is the festo different?

kevin.li.rit 11-02-2008 08:40

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Well After you release the power to the SMC it will stay in the last position it was in.

Mark McLeod 11-02-2008 10:42

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffeeism (Post 696463)
Well After you release the power to the SMC it will stay in the last position it was in.

Not the SMC single solenoid. All single solenoids behave the same way returning to a home position when there's no power.
The double SMC is what you're thinking of.

The Festo should behave identically. The only things I can think of are if it was tubed incorrectly or if it's just not working.

Racer26 11-02-2008 11:38

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 696511)
Not the SMC single solenoid. All single solenoids behave the same way returning to a home position when there's no power.
The double SMC is what you're thinking of.

The Festo should behave identically. The only things I can think of are if it was tubed incorrectly or if it's just not working.

1075 Has used pneumatics extensively in all our robot designs. Our arm last year was powered by pneumatics.

We've found that the Festo valves seem to be the least robust and most prone to breaking. Never mind that they're useless for more complicated setups than just operating a single ram, since you can't screw fittings into them, and they are a 4 port design, rather than a 5 port one.

kevin.li.rit 11-02-2008 14:17

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 696511)
Not the SMC single solenoid. All single solenoids behave the same way returning to a home position when there's no power.
The double SMC is what you're thinking of.

The Festo should behave identically. The only things I can think of are if it was tubed incorrectly or if it's just not working.

Yes I meant the SMC double, there isn't a SMC single in this years kit so I assumed they meant the double. Or Is there?

Mark McLeod 11-02-2008 14:22

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Yep, there is a single SMC in the kit as usual and that's what they said they swapped the Festo for.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffeeism (Post 696605)
..there isn't a SMC single in this years kit so I assumed they meant the double. Or Is there?


kevin.li.rit 11-02-2008 14:33

Re: actuator does not extend!
 
Hmm I see it now.


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