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SL8 24-02-2008 20:14

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Thanks for that clarification. I want to learn more about the history of FIRST.

Heretic121 24-02-2008 20:16

Re: FRC Team #1
 
for some strange reason i think both of 121's bots from both 96+97 were in fact team 94... at least... aquatread was 94 =X

*note... did some digging... found a team 121 lab coat from 1996 when the bot was named Ragnarok... i found no team number on the coat... meaning no team numbers were formed until 97??? i could be wrong just complete speculation...

Koko Ed 24-02-2008 20:17

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icdumbpeeps305 (Post 706449)
319 is an original 1992 team. (according to my mentor, we were originally team 6)

According to The Blue Alliance 319's rookie year was 1999.

Tristan Lall 24-02-2008 20:19

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 706442)
330 was originally 82, but a sponsor switched names or something like that and they got a new number.

That's weird: a number in the 300s usually indicates a rookie year of 1999 or later (by which time the numbers were being assigned by the current method). Is it possible that the team skipped 1998 and 1999, and when they rejoined, 82 was already assigned, and 330 was available? Or was it one of those situations where the team and sponsor split up, and the school ended up re-forming a team under a different identity?

(If FIRST's site were accessible today, I would check their records....)

Aside: Apparently this makes a thousand posts for me...over seven years. Meanwhile, Ed just keeps going, and going....

Koko Ed 24-02-2008 20:19

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike M. (Post 706452)
Looking at the '92 competition bracket there were definitely no team numbers.

Mike M.

Can any of you name who the four teams are in the final four today (by number)?

AdamHeard 24-02-2008 20:22

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 706459)
That's weird: a number in the 300s usually indicates a rookie year of 1999 or later (by which time the numbers were being assigned by the current method). Is it possible that the team skipped 1998 and 1999, and when they rejoined, 82 was already assigned, and 330 was available? Or was it one of those situations where the team and sponsor split up, and the school ended up re-forming a team under a different identity?

(If FIRST's site were accessible today, I would check their records....)

Not sure the exact reasons or history, but I do know for sure that 294, 330, 207 and a few now defunct teams were all one team that is at least as old as 96.

Guy Davidson 24-02-2008 20:22

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 706460)
Can any of you name who the four teams are in the final four today (by number)?

The Technokats (45) are from Kokomo, Wheeling is Wildstang (111, currently including also Rolling Meadows HS), WPI is of course 190, but I don't know who Clinton is. EDIT: A quick google search says that Clinton HS and NYPRO are currently team 126.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 706464)
Not sure the exact reasons or history, but I do know for sure that 294, 330, 207 and a few now defunct teams were all one team that is at least as old as 96.

I don't think they're much older than '96, if at all. The WildHats (100) are the first team from the west coast, and they stared in 1995.

I know our team joined in 1996. To be honest, I really can't complain about our number. 8 is quite fantastic :P

Koko Ed 24-02-2008 20:23

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 706465)
The Technokats (45) are from Kokomo, Wheeling is Wildstang (111, currently including also Rolling Meadows HS), WPI is of course 190, but I don't know who Clinton is.

126! Gaelforce!

Nuttyman54 24-02-2008 20:24

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sumadin (Post 706465)
The Technokats (45) are from Kokomo, Wheeling is Wildstang (111, currently including also Rolling Meadows HS), WPI is of course 190, but I don't know who Clinton is.

You don't know Clinton? They were the champs that year! They are now more commonly known as Team 126, Gael Force

Guy Davidson 24-02-2008 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 706466)
126! Gaelforce!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 706467)
You don't know Clinton? They were the champs that year! They are now more commonly known as Team 126, Gael Force

I guess that's what I get for never coming to compete on the east coast :P Maybe next year, depending on where I go to college, I'll have the opportunity to compete with/against/see Gael Force.

EricH 24-02-2008 20:28

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 706459)
That's weird: a number in the 300s usually indicates a rookie year of 1999 or later (by which time the numbers were being assigned by the current method). Is it possible that the team skipped 1998 and 1999, and when they rejoined, 82 was already assigned, and 330 was available? Or was it one of those situations where the team and sponsor split up, and the school ended up re-forming a team under a different identity?

(If FIRST's site were accessible today, I would check their records....)

It gets worse...61, 82, 330, 207, 294. Which numbers go to which team?

Back in 1997, SoCal had barely heard of FIRST. Two teams existed--team 22 in Chatsworth and team 61 in the Beach Cities. 61 was made up of four schools, maybe more. In 1998, 61 split three ways due to politics. All three are still around, but here is the breakup: 82 (Beach'Bots), 294 (Beach Cities Robotics, two schools), 207 (Vultures, now Metalcrafters, same school). Then, in 1999, 82 had a sponsor's name change (I think--either that or the application was much later), and 1999 was the last year that numbers were assigned by sponsor. The result? Team 330, the Beach'Bots, have their rookie year in 1999, but started before then. The next year, the numbers locked into time-of-joining.

By the way, the distinctive feature of Beach'Bot 2 (1999) was its rotating wheels to get onto the puck and control it.

Check the FIRSTwiki site; it gives a little better description right now.

Oh yeah, I've heard rumors that another school had a member on 61. The school I'm thinking about joined 1197 last season.

Jeremiah Johnson 24-02-2008 20:30

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I didn't think Wildstang was an original team... but I could be wrong. Rookie year of 1996? Is that another team from the same school/sponsor.

Team 648 used to be 309 and the rookie year was 1999, the team got mixed up and was later renumber to 648.

Koko Ed 24-02-2008 20:33

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah Johnson (Post 706476)
I didn't think Wildstang was an original team... but I could be wrong. Rookie year of 1996? Is that another team from the same school/sponsor.

Team 648 used to be 309 and the rookie year was 1999, the team got mixed up and was later renumber to 648.

Wildstang was in FIRST in '92. Dropped out and came back in '96.

waialua359 24-02-2008 20:38

Re: FRC Team #1
 
This is all interesting! I assumed the beachbots started the same year as us.
We were teammates with another Hawaii team 368 in the finals in 2000 against 254, 60 and ??? (cant remember) in Silicon Valley. I thought at the time, we were an all rookie alliance against them. The Beach Bots were a #1 seed with no losses until the finals. Their bot was made of PVC if I remember correctly.
I met team #1 in 2003 and they told us the story. All that time, I thought they were the 1st team.

Ty Tremblay 24-02-2008 20:40

Re: FRC Team #1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 706457)
According to The Blue Alliance 319's rookie year was 1999.

The year before that (1998) 319 did a pilot program in which 319 did their 1998 season during the game design period. Thus, we were unable to participate in the actual 1998 season. Then, in 1999 we came back without doing the pilot program, thus imbuing us with our 1999 "rookie" year.


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