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Cory 13-07-2008 18:55
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsanto (Post 756581)
I do not like the rule (and this is for all the years) which states that the first time your flag falls out, you only get a reprimand. After the winning the first heat of a quarterfinal match we played, another teams flag fell out and got caught in one of our teammates chains within the first 10 seconds of the game of the second game. This caused our teammate to be disabled for the entire match. In the end, we lost that game by a minuscule amount such as 2 points or something like that (might have been 4...). We went on to lose the third game as well. This kept my teams streak intact of not making it past the quarterfinals for the third successive year. It was very disappointing for us, and I do hope some sort of alteration will be made to this rule.

~Setsanto
That's unfortunate that this happened to you, but it's not the team's fault if their flagholder was designed to spec, and the flag came out. It's the nature of the game. I've seen tons of flags come out. Some merely fall, some practically launch their way out of the holder. As long as they're just pushed in there, and aren't fastened down, it's gonna happen.

DPTeam270Driver 13-07-2008 20:12
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
that 80" rule kinda snuck up on us
we didnt realize it untill like 2 weeks before ship and we had to start from almost scratch

GaryVoshol 13-07-2008 20:16
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsanto (Post 756581)
I do not like the rule (and this is for all the years) which states that the first time your flag falls out, you only get a reprimand. After the winning the first heat of a quarterfinal match we played, another teams flag fell out and got caught in one of our teammates chains within the first 10 seconds of the game of the second game. This caused our teammate to be disabled for the entire match. In the end, we lost that game by a minuscule amount such as 2 points or something like that (might have been 4...). We went on to lose the third game as well. This kept my teams streak intact of not making it past the quarterfinals for the third successive year. It was very disappointing for us, and I do hope some sort of alteration will be made to this rule.

~Setsanto
I can recall no such rule. Can you elaborate? Where would it be found in the manual?

There are rules for flag holder construction and placement, but none that I can recall about the flag falling loose.

ChrisH 13-07-2008 23:01
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsanto (Post 756581)
I do not like the rule (and this is for all the years) which states that the first time your flag falls out, you only get a reprimand. After the winning the first heat of a quarterfinal match we played, another teams flag fell out and got caught in one of our teammates chains within the first 10 seconds of the game of the second game. This caused our teammate to be disabled for the entire match. In the end, we lost that game by a minuscule amount such as 2 points or something like that (might have been 4...). We went on to lose the third game as well. This kept my teams streak intact of not making it past the quarterfinals for the third successive year. It was very disappointing for us, and I do hope some sort of alteration will be made to this rule.

~Setsanto
The official rules had no penalty for losing your flag. However, there was apparently a non-official document that was distributed among the refs that did mention it. This document was a summary of the various infractions that could occur on the field and what the penalties were.

This penalty was actually called at the LA Regional and reversed after it was confirmed that it was not an official rule. The ref who called it had done a very good job of studying the documentation he was provided. The documentation was just a little off. I do not know the source of the document, other than it was put together by one of the refs.

We did not disable any robots due to infractions, but that might be because we dealt with the bad call right away. So there were no opportunities for it to be called twice. This is a great argument for having and knowing how to use the Challenge system.

Hopefully there will be no repeats of this sort of thing next year.

cbale2000 13-07-2008 23:12
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
Hated the distribution bock rule. Our main power line came disconnected several times off of it and cost us many matches. Quite frustrating. :mad:

Arefin Bari 14-07-2008 08:01
Re: Overdrive: Least favorite rules
 
Now that this thread has been revived, I would like to share my opinion. I made this post right after kickoff. Please read through it and let's make sure this doesn't turn into, "What I hate about this past season's game?" thread. More over, I would like to encourage members to point out their "dislikes" (just like all the previous posts), and give a solution to GDC which would make their life easier for next season.

I would also like to point out that the teams did a great job at competition living up to the challenge that was given to us whether we liked it or not. The whole point of FIRST is to find inspiration through the learning process; taking on the challenge and solving it with a simple solution.


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