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Spiders 12-02-2008 19:49
Pneumatic Problems
 
So we have all the pnuematics set up correctly running 60 on the regulater and 115 (?) on the pressure switch before it stops, but the pneumatic wont extend, the double solenoid is connected to the spikes with fwd and rev on each but is not working?? not even the manual buttons work! whats wrong?

seanl 12-02-2008 20:01
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
did you wire the solenoid by putting the
2 black together which goes into the breaker panel
wiring the 2 red wires with diodes going to the relay?

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:07
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanl (Post 697657)
did you wire the solenoid by putting the
2 black together which goes into the breaker panel
wiring the 2 red wires with diodes going to the relay?
...? um no lemme try

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:10
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
so the black go to the 20 amp breaker and the red each have there own spike?

seanl 12-02-2008 20:12
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
2 blacks go to ground on the breaker panel. and the 2 reds go to the spike with a diode to the m+ and m- on the spike.

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:14
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
we dont have any diodes, do we have to have them?

seanl 12-02-2008 20:17
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
im not sure on this but... i think you can have the black and red going to 2 different spikes or.. if you have any extra led u can use those(light emitting DIODE );)

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:21
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its like this atm

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:22
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
nvm it corrupted

seanl 12-02-2008 20:26
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i cant really tell anything from that pic

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:27
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
is the magnetic switch have to be on there also?

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:30
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here is another, the red are coming from the dble soliniod

jgannon 12-02-2008 20:33
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiders (Post 697670)
we dont have any diodes, do we have to have them?
Diodes have not been required on Spikes for several years. You should have the two blacks running to the ground on your circuit breaker, a red to M+, and a red to M-. Of bigger concern here, though, is that your solenoids aren't even switching manually... hopefully someone with more pneumatics expertise than I can offer some insight.

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:34
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
so the two reds are goin to one spike then?

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:37
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
dang we are really confused on these lol

jgannon 12-02-2008 20:37
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiders (Post 697695)
so the two reds are goin to one spike then?
That is how we have wired ours, yes. There are other ways of doing it, but this one definitely works.

seanl 12-02-2008 20:38
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
yea they both go to one spike and the blacks go to the ground on the breaker panel. thanks jgannon i guess i learned something new today. excuse me for my mistake.

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:42
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
oh

seanl 12-02-2008 20:44
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
are you guys going to LA regional?

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:45
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
:mad: grr there still not working:confused:

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:46
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanl (Post 697707)
are you guys going to LA regional?
yeh, we are

Spiders 12-02-2008 20:47
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
maybe there not working cuz the magnetic switches arent plugged in? where do they plug into?

seanl 12-02-2008 20:50
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
cool come by and say hi well be there and i cant help you with the magnetic switch.

jgannon 12-02-2008 20:50
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiders (Post 697715)
maybe there not working cuz the magnetic switches arent plugged in? where do they plug into?
The magnetic switches are an optional accessory. If you were using them, they would plug into the RC. However, they are most definitely not required for the solenoids to operate.

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:01
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
the tubes goin to the pnuematic are A and B while P is coming from the cylinders correct? while ea and eb are sealed?

seanl 12-02-2008 21:04
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
you don't seal the empty holes those are the vents that might jut be your problem.

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:05
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
ok.. where gonna open them.. still doesnt work..

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:09
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how far do these have to be open?

seanl 12-02-2008 21:10
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...ics_Manual.pdf
try page 13

seanl 12-02-2008 21:11
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiders (Post 697741)
how far do these have to be open?
those look open all the way it should work like that.

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:16
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanl (Post 697743)
yeh, that is what weve been using

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:19
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
we just switched to our extra soleniod hopefully that other one was defective :P

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:21
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
well one of the manual buttons work on this one but nothing else

seanl 12-02-2008 21:26
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
so u have ea ab open
A, B to the piston
p is air in

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:32
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
FINALLY! we switched out the wires and connected a black and red to the spikes so each spike has a black and red

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:34
Re: Pneumatic Problems
 
thnx for the help! :)

Spiders 12-02-2008 21:39
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oh i thought we where going to L.A. one but where going to the SD one, didnt know there was SD one lol


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