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Daniel_LaFleur 22-02-2008 14:46

Re: [YMTC]: Hurtling Interference YMTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott358 (Post 705095)
Thoughts on the following defensive strategy being called for hurdling interference??

After a the ball has left a hurdling robot of the type that needs to extend over the overpass... parking behind it and "trapping" it.

This obviously does not stop the first hurdle, but can significantly slow down/stop that robot after the hurdle.

Thoughts?

This would be covered under the pinning rules.


As far as the original topic goes: As long as bluabot has a ball in it's possession, it will be a penalty.

Defense will be played ... but most likely will be played outside the home streches.

EricH 22-02-2008 17:09

Re: [YMTC]: Hurtling Interference YMTC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 705107)
This would be covered under the pinning rules.


As far as the original topic goes: As long as bluabot has a ball in it's possession, it will be a penalty.

Defense will be played ... but most likely will be played outside the home streches.

Not only is it pinning (and it's 6 seconds instead of 10 this year), some hurdling robots will be unaffected by this move.

ALIBI 25-02-2008 00:03

Re: [YMTC]: Hurtling Interference YMTC
 
This is a slight twist. What if Blueabot was an on the fly hurdler and even though Redabot was overtly pushing Blueabot in its' home stretch, Blueabot was still able to get a hurdle. The rule does not address whether or not the hurdler is successful in getting a hurdle, its' only concern is with the overt, blatant, or aggressive contact that INTERFERES with the hurdling attempt. It does not say interferes to the point where a robot can not make a hurdle. Redabot was interfering with Blueabot while it was attempting a hurdle, which Blueabot just happened to make anyway. Is this a case or no harm, no foul? Or does Redabot get a penalty?

I am inclined to think that Redabot would still get the penalty. If I applied no harm, no foul to other rules, such as high speed raming when the robot that is ramed does not get damaged, no harm, no foul doesn't work. The original questions may be something that the GDC needs to address. I do not think that Redabot should get away with breaking the rule just because Blueabot was successful in getting a hurdle.

If it becomes a no harm, no foul situation, would Blueabot be better off missing the hurdling attempt to get a ten point penalty on the Red Alliance instead of the eight points for a hurdle?

What are the odds that the GDC would come back and say this is a hypothetic situation? The question to the GDC should be direct. If it is clear that Redabot is breaking <G42> but Blueabot makes the hurdle anyway, does Redabot still get a penalty for breaking <G42>?


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