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RoboGeek99

16-02-2008 16:29

Flag Holder Mounts

In the FIRST Rules (R17) it said that the flag holder must be permanently mounted and we were wondering if hose clamps were considered permanently mounted. If not, can yall give us any ideas on how to mount it. Much appreciated.

EricH

16-02-2008 16:38

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

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Originally Posted by RoboGeek99 (Post 700301)

In the FIRST Rules (R17) it said that the flag holder must be permanently mounted and we were wondering if c-clamps were considered permanently mounted. If not, can yall give us any ideas on how to mount it. Much appreciated.

I don't think C-clamps count. Try zip ties or bolts.

NOV8R

16-02-2008 20:07

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

Hose clamps are not c clamps. Hose clamps to a secure structure should be OK.

bduddy

16-02-2008 21:30

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 700316)

I don't think C-clamps count. Try zip ties or bolts.

Zip ties? Are you sure? I wouldn't consider that "permanent", and our team has always avoided them...

EricH

16-02-2008 21:31

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

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Originally Posted by bduddy (Post 700504)

Zip ties? Are you sure? I wouldn't consider that "permanent", and our team has always avoided them...

Yeah, but it passes inspection. In 2006, my team had the flag holder with us, but not mounted. Two zip ties later, it was mounted pretty strongly to our hopper. We never changed it.

dtengineering

16-02-2008 21:34

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

We used zip ties without any problem last year.... as for permanency... you try taking them off without some kind of tools! I think the term "permanent" means more in the temporal sense of you aren't taking them off every match, or having to re-tighten or adjust them than it does in the structural sense that they can never be removed without destroying the robot.

Jason

waialua359

16-02-2008 21:40

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

:D zip ties or hose clamps should be fine. Many teams have used them and passed tech.

Rosiebotboss

16-02-2008 22:35

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

Hose clamps are fine. The more important question is what are yoy making them out of?

The Manual says 1/2inch schedule 40 pvc. The real stuff has an ID of 5/8 inch. (Its a construction thing.) Please make sure you have the right stuff.

We had a team at the Suffield Shakedown Scrimmage today that kept on losing its flag. After being asked to take a look at it as an Inspector, the team had used 3/8 pvc, with an ID of 1/2 inch. The rubber plug holding the flag did not fir hence, their flag kept coming out.

Please double check your flag holder ID.

Jimmy Nichols

16-02-2008 22:39

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

I wouldn't use zip ties. WHile it may pass inspection, two broken zipties later your lap counter is dragging on the field not counting laps.

EricH

16-02-2008 22:47

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 700558)

I wouldn't use zip ties. WHile it may pass inspection, two broken zipties later your lap counter is dragging on the field not counting laps.

What's going to break the zip ties? You cinch the holder to your support for the holder. There won't be enough room to get something in to break it.

Jimmy Nichols

17-02-2008 19:32

Re: Flag Holder Mounts

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 700566)

What's going to break the zip ties? You cinch the holder to your support for the holder. There won't be enough room to get something in to break it.

A 7.5 lb Ball com,ing down on top of your flag, well, that would probably destroy the flag anyway.

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