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T3_1565 24-02-2008 21:02

1565 Video "Twitch"
 
This is our 2008 bot "Twitch" with our new "linkage" drive system.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f6PKY8SyvDM

Any comments or questions are welcome.


p.s. the auto mode in the video is running at 25% power because we don't have any space to drive it lol

Ross340 24-02-2008 21:06

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I LOVE THAT! LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT

so innovative.

can we have some pictures!? (like detailed ones)

Bochek 24-02-2008 21:12

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Very nice, I look forward to competing with (or against) you guys in both Waterloo and GTR.

It was need to see some video of our... umm.... learning experiance of a robot from last year.

And just to prove great minds think alike. Your bot is so similar to ours, its almost scary.

Dylan Gramlich 24-02-2008 21:19

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That is definitly one of the most impressive drive trains i have every seen!!! I congragulate you and your team!

T3_1565 24-02-2008 22:20

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thank you very much pictures should be up shortly (if not now) if you have any questions on how it works ask away, Hope to become quite the hit in the canadian regionals, as we were not a well know team for a while! (this is why we invented the drive system lol)


See you in 4 weeks!!

T3_1565 24-02-2008 22:45

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does anyone know how to change the title of the thread?? It would be nice to know, and I have seen people do it before lol

burkey_turkey 24-02-2008 23:04

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really REALLY awesome. top notch work guys. I love how when you switch directions, if you didnt slow down is still goes an extra foot or so, and it looks like you all mastered that power slide.

James1902 25-02-2008 00:20

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:ahh: :ahh: Very cool, I really hope you guys get to go to championships so I can see it up close

Arefin Bari 25-02-2008 02:00

Re: 1565 Video "Twitch"
 
Is it just me or every single robot that is named "Twitch" is plain awesome? =)

Ali Ahmed 25-02-2008 09:32

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Most impressive. Highly innovative. But I have a question, how much air do you use, do you think it'll ever be a problem during a match?

T3_1565 25-02-2008 09:37

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at most it uses 30 psi per switch, and that is with the regulator set at 60psi (max) It can switch fairly easily with the regulator set at 30, so we have room to go down in case we need more switches than we thought, but through all the testing we did, I never once had to wait for the air to build up

JesseK 25-02-2008 11:44

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How hard is it to double/triple twitch, such as what would be needed to dodge a hurdler and then another robot a few yds ahead? I'm curious about the linkage stress and air stress. I noticed in the video that the bot didn't twitch as full speed.

It's still an amazing drive train since it has many luxuries of both holonomic and skid drive combined. I'd love to see a Matlab simulation graph of your drive code; I'm sure the 3D map of the joystick inputs vs motor outputs would look pretty wicked.

T3_1565 25-02-2008 11:54

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it double/triple "twitchs" fine, the only reason we did not drive at full speed was because we were in the library and We had to be careful. any stress that is placed on the linkage is spread out throughout the frame of the robot, as the linkage floats between the two frames. And it can switch 4-5 times in a row (as fast as I can push the two buttons) before air runs out

tseres 25-02-2008 16:07

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honestly, the joystick outputs aren't that impressive (i programmed it).
see my post in this thread :

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=65067

i_am_samus 25-02-2008 17:02

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GENIUS IDEA! I would have never thought of using two wheels to bring the ball in, AND hurdle it at the same time. My jaw dropped. Excellent work!

m3ch4num470r 25-02-2008 22:14

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Really cool, but wouldn't it be easily pushable with those 90 degree omnis? Are you worried at all about getting shoved out of the way as you make your turns?

T3_1565 25-02-2008 22:21

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no not really cause we can switch the wheels back so we no longer get pushed, that and pushing isn't nice lol :D

Vince lau 27-02-2008 20:36

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amazing.. can't wait to see it at Waterloo and GTR, i'm predicting an award for this maybe the xerox creativity award

CraigHickman 27-02-2008 20:52

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Love it!

I love seeing teams who think outside the box like this... It's wonderful!

T3_1565 27-02-2008 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 708536)
amazing.. can't wait to see it at Waterloo and GTR, i'm predicting an award for this maybe the xerox creativity award

Thanks!! We are hoping for an award!! any award would be sweet!

See you all in Waterloo and Toronto!

Vince lau 25-03-2008 15:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 708536)
amazing.. can't wait to see it at Waterloo and GTR, i'm predicting an award for this maybe the xerox creativity award

my prediction was right :), congrats on the award see you guys this weekend

T3_1565 25-03-2008 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince lau (Post 724673)
my prediction was right :), congrats on the award see you guys this weekend

lol, indeed it was!!

Thanks and see you in a few days! (I'm the guy on the team with the oktoberfest hat and the gaint feather)

Shadow503 06-04-2008 17:54

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That's an amazing drive train! Do you have any shots of the underside? I imagine hybrid mode would be pretty easy with zero-turn-radius 90 degree turns like that!

Bongle 06-04-2008 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow503 (Post 731577)
That's an amazing drive train! Do you have any shots of the underside? I imagine hybrid mode would be pretty easy with zero-turn-radius 90 degree turns like that!

There's an underside shot here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/30720

I know from watching that 1565 was capable of a 5-line autonomous using only timing in the autonomous code. No sensors, no crazy complexity, just timing.

Edit: Picture bigger than 100x100!

tseres 06-04-2008 18:33

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lol i wish there was sensors, because the timing took a long time to perfect, and if we even rubbed against another robot we'd most likely go off course and eventually cross over a line the wrong way..

Shadow503 07-04-2008 18:04

Re: 1565 Video "Twitch"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bongle (Post 731583)
There's an underside shot here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/30720

I know from watching that 1565 was capable of a 5-line autonomous using only timing in the autonomous code. No sensors, no crazy complexity, just timing.

Edit: Picture bigger than 100x100!

Wow, thanks for the underbelly shot. I'm still astounded at that design. Are you going to the Championships? You'd almost definitely win a design award there!

tseres 07-04-2008 19:57

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no, unfortunately we aren't...at both waterloo and toronto regionals we were semifinalists and we lost both times to 1114 and 2056. as far as awards, we wont the Xerox creativity award at Waterloo, and the Rockwell in control award at Toronto.

Shadow503 08-04-2008 19:16

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Be proud of those awards, that is quite an achievement!

tseres 08-04-2008 19:48

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thanks! that really means a lot :)

T3_1565 08-04-2008 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow503 (Post 732983)
Be proud of those awards, that is quite an achievement!

Oh we are proud, have no fears about that! and we will be more proud (sorry bad grammer) when this drive train becomes common place in the FIRST community :D (I have seen people mention it every now and then in threads, so its getting there *fingers crossed*)


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