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Super Serb 05-03-2008 11:29

Pit Size
 
Hey I'm from team 1228 and we were wondering what the pit sizes are to do some off season designing and so we don't make our pits too large. We looked it up on the first website and it said that they are 10x10 on average although it also said that some are smaller...If possible we would like the dimensions of the pits from NJ, Philly, or NYC regionals.....Thanks in advance for any help...

Teched3 05-03-2008 11:55

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To the best of my knowledge, the pit size volume is to be no larger than 10' x 10' x 10'. With respect to the height dimension, nothing stored or built should exten above 10 feet. Design the width and depth slightly smaller than 10', andyou should be OK.

WRENCHMOM 05-03-2008 12:10

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The pits are supposed to be either 10 x 10 x 10 or 9 x 10 x 10 but when we were at Midwest this past weekend and tried to put up our PVC poles and our new banner, we quickly found out that out space was only 8 1/2' wide. We had our banner made to 9 feet as that was supposed to be the smaller size, but that didn't work. We hung it anyway, but be warned that things aren't always as they are supposed to be.

Alan Anderson 05-03-2008 12:10

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I believe the TechnoKats pit canopy was constructed to be ten by ten feet. A few years ago it was reduced to more like nine by nine. It barely fit the provided space at the St. Louis regional last weekend.

EricH 05-03-2008 12:14

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I seem to remember from somewhere that the minimum pit size is 8' by 8' by 10' high. I'd make any structures so that they fit both minimum and maximum (i.e., make an 8' by 8' structure that can be expanded to 10' by 10', or vice versa).

MegaSparks 05-03-2008 12:19

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St. Louis was 9 x 10 x 10. We hung over a bit but our gracious neighbors let us.

Thanks

mtaman02 05-03-2008 19:33

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Pit sizes vary between venues. I think NJ's was 10x10x10. Try contacting BandChick she might have the exact size for NJ.

Richard Wallace 05-03-2008 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MegaSparks (Post 713109)
St. Louis was 9 x 10 x 10. We hung over a bit but our gracious neighbors let us.

And your team had a truly great pit. The best example of 5S that I have seen at a FIRST event.

This year we reduced pit width (side-to-side) from 10ft. to 9ft. We did it so we could reduce the number of aisles four to three and increase aisle width from 10ft. to 13ft. The goal was to keep traffic congestion to a minimum, and still have space for a practice carpet. A few teams with pre-built 10ft. wide pit structures had to adjust, or borrow space from neighbors.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 713103)
I believe the TechnoKats pit canopy was constructed to be ten by ten feet. A few years ago it was reduced to more like nine by nine. It barely fit the provided space at the St. Louis regional last weekend.

I think the T-Kats made a good decision to reduce their pit structure size so it fits (barely) in a 9ft. wide space. Pit space at some venues is even tighter than ours in St. Louis.

wilmo 05-03-2008 19:59

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I was one of the 3 people to go into the pits early, our pit was designed for 10x10x10 as stated by the rules, we started setting up and realized it was a little small, :eek: 8x9:eek:, we had to leave off a desk and move some banners around to make the size constraints

I really loved CORE's pit: clean, simple, same, and very nice looking

IndySam 05-03-2008 20:20

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Our pit at St. Louis was less than 9' wide. I'm glad we made our space flexible this year.

millerm277 05-03-2008 20:57

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NJ is usually 10x10, and if you're lucky enough to be in the outer ring (You won't be though, if 1228 is your number), or on the end of one of the rows, you usually wind up with some extra space.

Mike Schroeder 05-03-2008 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by millerm277 (Post 713378)
NJ is usually 10x10, and if you're lucky enough to be in the outer ring (You won't be though, if 1228 is your number), or on the end of one of the rows, you usually wind up with some extra space.

Keep in mind that teams are not allowed to exceed their pit space

DonRotolo 05-03-2008 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by "Big Mike" (Post 713404)
Keep in mind that teams are not allowed to exceed their pit space

Indeed, but at NJ the outer ring has these little 'wedges' of extra space between most of them, and all that "shelf" space in the folded-in bleachers on the back wall - a small advantage, but not enough to make a difference in competition (just some creature comforts).



Don

Scott Carpman 05-03-2008 22:19

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The pits at NYC certainly don't feel 10x10x10. The pit area is so open and airy that they feel clsoe to 15x15x15. The aisles are also very wide, so traffic can flow without much interuption.

Kims Robot 06-03-2008 00:05

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We were told Philly is 9x9x10, all other places we have been were 10x10x10 when we were there (FLR, Boston, Toronto, Atlanta, Buckeye). If you have a structure, check with the regionals you are attending to see what size the pits are, we didnt think about it and now have to modify our structure to be smaller.


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