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smurfgirl 19-03-2008 21:38

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
At the very least, I'm going to come back and visit 1124 next year while they're competing at the Connecticut Regional. I'm not sure where I'll end up at school next year- I still haven't heard back from everywhere yet- but I've already started to look into teams to mentor. My FIRST involvement has been one of my most memorable and valuable life experiences, and I want to continue to share that with others. I've worked really hard to inspire young children (girls especially) in my town to get involved with math, science, and technology, and I don't want to give up on this. I plan to continue my mission while I'm in college, whether I am nearby a FIRST team, or not.

Hiteak 19-03-2008 22:04

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
I know that this will be far from my last year of FIRST. I dont know if I will mentor or not or if I do who I will mentor, but I do know that I'll be volunteering and be on the Ruckus Committee again along with joining RIT FIRST.

wsansewjs 20-03-2008 09:59

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 721352)
FIRST is definitely the best part of high school... i have so many good memories and learning experiences from team 1124. however, the sad reality is that the real world is not like FIRST, and at some point you have to really break away to pursue other things in life.

For our high school years, the FIRST competition is definitely a great experience, but the problem is that it is a competition. The robots built on these teams only serve the purpose of competing with other robots (or picking up buckets in some cases), and dont really serve any direct practical purpose in the real world.

Beyond high school, i don't really plan to return to FIRST robotics to serve as a mentor or anything for at least 10 years. This is because i want to teach and inspire younger engineers, not relive my high school years. I realize that this is only a personal case, but its what im going to do.


...yeah this post probably sounds cynical and demeaning, but i don't intend for it to sound that way.

I am sorry but I have been alumni and mentor for my own team for the last 4 years now. You are terribly mistaken about FIRST not being part of the real world. FIRST is the REAL WORLD. It is already working with people around the world, connecting people together making the world a safer place as it can be. I completely understand that you didn't mean to be cynical or demeaning. The thing is I am already old and been there from the roots of FIRST, so I can tell you that its different over there. Perhaps, one day you may have a different opinion about it.

Good day ^_^

-Josh S.

Added: Also, you do not have to relieve to your high school years. All you have to do is set a different priority in FIRST by changing different roles or position from your high school's original.

Tetraman 20-03-2008 10:03

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
50% of my choice to go to RIT was FLR and the Rochester Robotics teams.

efoote868 20-03-2008 11:04

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
I'm off to purdue next year... so I'll definitely be apart of FIRST. I'm not sure how co-oping will work out with FIRST, maybe I'll get to sample a bunch of teams :yikes: . Maybe I'll find new sponsors for other teams? who knows!? :P

Jeff Waegelin 20-03-2008 11:55

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
I've said this before, and I'll say it again: think carefully before you jump into college FIRST - and do it for the right reasons. Mentoring a team is a very rewarding experience, if you do it right. Make sure that you're doing it because you want to help out and be a mentor to your students, not because you want to continue your high school FIRST experience. Taking some time off is not necessarily a bad thing - it can help to give you the perspective that a lot of freshman mentors lack. But, if you absolutely can't live without FIRST for a year (I couldn't, I admit), just make sure you always remember that you are there to advise, support, and learn how to be on the "other side" of the mentor-student relationship. I learned so much from my experience, and you can too - if you keep that perspective.

Martijn 20-03-2008 12:33

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
I've been a part of my high school robotics team for the last 4 years now, but sadly i'll be heading off to college back in the Netherlands next year. Although I am very glad to be heading back home to be my home country and am excited about attending college there, there are currently no FIRST teams back in the Netherlands.
I've been putting a decent bit of thought into what the options could be when i go back. The first is to say goodbye to FIRST for now, and possibly start mentoring if i move back the US at some point in time, or if FIRST ends up spreading its magic over to Europe as well. My second option is to figure out how i can start up a team back in the Netherlands. I know already that my college work will not be too intensive, so i technically have the time to start up a new team. However, I also realize that it will be much more difficult to start up a team over there. I don't know how it will work with shipping, receiving the KoP, or attending a regional event back in the US or Canada. Does anybody know if somebody else has tried starting a team in Europe? Or does anybody have any advice as to how this could be done?

wsansewjs 20-03-2008 12:38

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn (Post 721625)
I've been a part of my high school robotics team for the last 4 years now, but sadly i'll be heading off to college back in the Netherlands next year. Although I am very glad to be heading back home to be my home country and am excited about attending college there, there are currently no FIRST teams back in the Netherlands.
I've been putting a decent bit of thought into what the options could be when i go back. The first is to say goodbye to FIRST for now, and possibly start mentoring if i move back the US at some point in time, or if FIRST ends up spreading its magic over to Europe as well. My second option is to figure out how i can start up a team back in the Netherlands. I know already that my college work will not be too intensive, so i technically have the time to start up a new team. However, I also realize that it will be much more difficult to start up a team over there. I don't know how it will work with shipping, receiving the KoP, or attending a regional event back in the US or Canada. Does anybody know if somebody else has tried starting a team in Europe? Or does anybody have any advice as to how this could be done?


Good start would be the England teams and Israeli. I advise you to ask them how they deal with their issues over there.

-Josh

Martijn 20-03-2008 13:17

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wsansewjs (Post 721627)
Good start would be the England teams and Israeli. I advise you to ask them how they deal with their issues over there.

-Josh

Do you know where i could find a list of these teams? I tried the FIRST website, but i can only find events when i search by location, not the teams (outside of the US that is)

Jeff Waegelin 20-03-2008 13:24

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martijn (Post 721644)
Do you know where i could find a list of these teams? I tried the FIRST website, but i can only find events when i search by location, not the teams (outside of the US that is)

This list will show you all of the teams in FIRST, sorted by location. You can find all the international teams on there.

Interestingly enough, there is one team in the Netherlands already - team 2037 from Brunssum. I don't know where that is relative to where you'll be, but they might be a good resource nonetheless.

FourPenguins 20-03-2008 13:40

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
I don't plan to go back to FIRST in college. As cool as FIRST is, there's a real world out there making real discoveries. FIRST is a great tool to feed people into that real world, but what good is it if it just feeds itself?
After a few years in industry, I hope I can get back in the game and maybe start a new team, but until then, I'm going to focus on making a name for myself in the industry and a difference in the world of engineering.

James1902 20-03-2008 13:41

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
If all goes according to plan i'll be back as a UCF mentor, but in a much less involved role then this year. It will all depend on how I do the first semester grade wise. But at the very least I will visit the team often and volunteer at the events.

feliks_rosenber 20-03-2008 16:54

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and dont really serve any direct practical purpose in the real world.
I do not agree with that at all!
The robots might look "modified RC cars" but the truth is that once used right, they can change lives!

I mean exposing disabled people to those robots. Letting them control the bots with their own hands. I know from my team experience what that means for others.
The glow on people faces is worth it. The robots are not only for lifting buckets.


:)

feliks_rosenber 20-03-2008 16:59

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
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Do you know where i could find a list of these teams? I tried the FIRST website, but i can only find events when i search by location, not the teams (outside of the US that is)
Martijn,
The Israeli teams will be more than glad to help you with that issue.
You can ask us any questions you would like about how it is done here.
I invite you to PM me anytime you like.

Uberbots 20-03-2008 17:59

Re: Your Last Year of FIRST!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wsansewjs (Post 721547)
I am sorry but I have been alumni and mentor for my own team for the last 4 years now. You are terribly mistaken about FIRST not being part of the real world. FIRST is the REAL WORLD. It is already working with people around the world, connecting people together making the world a safer place as it can be. I completely understand that you didn't mean to be cynical or demeaning. The thing is I am already old and been there from the roots of FIRST, so I can tell you that its different over there. Perhaps, one day you may have a different opinion about it.

Good day ^_^

-Josh S.

Added: Also, you do not have to relieve to your high school years. All you have to do is set a different priority in FIRST by changing different roles or position from your high school's original.

yeah, i understand all of that, and i also understand that mentoring can be a very rewarding experience, and i plan to definitely take on that role some day to give back what FIRST gave to me- i owe a lot to this organization.
its just because of my obsessive/addictive personality type i don't think it would be a good idea for me to do it through college (=.


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