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Michelle Celio 24-03-2008 18:51

Offering Website Evaluations
 
Now I know this should technically be in the Website Design/Showcase sub-forum but I wanted this to get seen by as many people as possible.

I know it's late in the year, and most of the evaluating is complete for the year but I'm going to offer a step by step critique for any team who wants them.

You can see the one I did for 1622 here

I've got a list of teams to do, as follows
1. http://adambots.com/
2. http://robonauts.org/
3. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
4. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/


Anyone who is interested just post a reply with your URL, and whether you want it posted out in the open or in a PM.

If you're wondering why my suggestions might be worth listening to, take a look at my signature. 2007 Florida Regional Website Award, and the team I mentored this year 2008 Florida Regional Website Award. I've also done some evaluating for regionals this year.

Brad Voracek 24-03-2008 18:55

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This will help wonders for next year, any advice would be helpful.

www.team399.org

In the open is fine. Thanks for your time!

RyanCesiel 24-03-2008 18:59

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Just wanted to say thanks, I know that will be a lot of work.

swaknight 24-03-2008 19:06

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Could you review ours too please, no rush.

www.firstteam397.com

thanks

commodoredl 24-03-2008 19:27

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I would love for you to review our team's site:
www.fairportfirst.com

We were 3rd at Finger Lakes and heading to Boston, hoping we can do well there!

Team56 24-03-2008 20:15

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It will be greatly appreciated if you can review our website
www.team56.com

Thank you =)

TheOtherGuy 24-03-2008 20:29

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We would greatly appreciate it if you could please review team 1726's website:

http://www.project1726.org/2008web

Thanks!

Chuck Glick 24-03-2008 20:34

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above post reported.

smurfgirl 24-03-2008 21:30

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I filled out an evaluation form for our website team, pretending to be the judges. I'd love to get a second opinion (though they might not, haha).

The url is www.uberbots.org.

You can post it in the open.

Thank you!

Michelle Celio 24-03-2008 21:44

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Adambots - FRC 245

Content (50 points)

How well does the site explain FIRST and promote its vision?
4 - It's got tons of good information, and I really like how everything isn't just a copy paste from the FIRST website. The one thing I didn't like is that it seemed to cluttered. Maybe put a link to the FIRST history instead of having it all on the same page, you guys have the room for expansion.

Is there a prominent link to the FIRST website on the website home page?
4 - It's there, but it's not as prominent as it could be, I really like how you have the FIRST logo and then the rest of the image, just a little bigger and you'll have something really impressive.

Does the site use correct FIRST terminology and contain the updated FIRST logo?
3 - I saw some logo violations, or what was borderline passable, if you're not sure about what the standards are, there's two manuals available online, here is one of them. Also, I've said this time and time again (just not on CD), FIRST should be, FIRST not FIRST. You had FIRST on some pages, but there were a lot of FIRST's just open your page in notepad and do a replace all FIRST with <i> FIRST </i>.

Does the website clearly tell the team story and contain the team name, FIRST program team number and physical location of the team?
5 - Very very good job on the team story, there was some connection between the reader and the team. I wish you guys would of just said we are an FRC team vs FIRST team. It just helps to identify which of the program the team participates in.

Does the website contain updated information dealing with the current season?
4 - I really like the information you have, the whole week by week thing is amazing, but if you could make it so there wasn't so much scrolling on each of the individual weeks it would be a lot easier. Maybe put the images in their own scroll box.

Does the website include recognition of sponsors, mentors and volunteers?
4 - There was a lot of text based recognition, but I wish there would of been logos for the sponsors. The mentor recognition page is really good.

Does the website include helpful resources for other FIRST teams?
4 - Theres a lot of resources, they're just not organized in a way that if its your first time on the size you can find what you need immediately. The links titles on the helpful links page are a little large and its always nice to include a description with the links.

Does the website contain helpful non-text content such as music, sound, animation, or video?
4 - I like the amount of content but it was kind of hidden in the media gallery, you guys have gratuitous amounts of content, it's just hard to find it sometimes, or find it quickly with out scrolling forever.

Is this site dedicated exclusively to a FIRST team and its activities?
4 - Even though you guys have OCCRA content, it's segregation is good, instead of mixing it completely.

Does this site follow copyright infringement rules correctly?
4 - Theres some logo violations, but other than that I can't find anything.

Section Total:
40/50


Visual Design (25 points)

Does the website communicate a visual experience reflective of the identity of the team?
5 - I really love the design of the site, it's clean and elegant. The yellow does get a little eye retching at times but it's not over intensive.

Is the site engaging and does it encourage exploration?
4 - The navigation is well organized, but there is just so much stuff that after a while, I got discouraged that I'd ever be able to get to all of it. Overall it is very well executed.

Does the fort size and format make the site easy to read?
5 - The font is a good size, and a generic face - very easy to read.

Does the website contain visuals relating to the current game and the current season’s work as a team?
5 - Tons and tons of stuff, great job documenting your progress, just as I mentioned before, try and cut down on the scrolling.

Is the home pate inviting to all readers, or is it cluttered with team member specific information?
5 - I like the home page, it's got enough team related content and enough content for visitors to create a nice balance.

Section Total: 24/25


Functionality and Interactivity (25 points)

Does the website work well and the homepage load quickly?
3 - I've tried this site on 2 different internet connections and both time it was a little slow on the load for any page, not just the home page. The site works well other than the slow loading. (It's not that slow, but slower than most sites)

Do the links work throughout the site?
5 - Links work, end of story really.

Is important information easily accessible?
3 - There is just so much information going on here. Yes things are labeled but then you have links off those pages to other pages, it gets kind of confusing. But I really liked the "Start here" pages, they were cool.

Do external links open new, separate browser windows?
5 - I didn't happen to run across any that didn't

Can I easily return to the website from an outside link?
5 - I really don't see how anyone could score less than a 5 here.

Section Total: 21/25

Total: 85

Any questions, just shoot me over a PM
-----------------------------

It might be a few hours before I can get another one done, remember kiddies, homework before FIRST :D

List as stands
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/

Please when posting, copy the list. It'll make things easier for me..and you :) (expect your number to be the number of days until you get a response. I can do maybe 3 of these on a good day) I'll send the poster a PM when I've done the evaluating.

RyanCesiel 24-03-2008 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 724206)
...

Thanks a ton!

rdlevy1215 24-03-2008 22:38

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www.team1676.com

Torboticsmember 24-03-2008 22:43

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www.2080.lafrc.org

we would greatly appreciate any critiques and advice so we can make the best website possible for next year. If you could pm it to me whenever your done, no rush though.
Thanks

lukevanoort 24-03-2008 22:48

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Thanks for doing this Michelle! I know we've got some major problems, but it'd be great to get a breakdown of where they are (fixing them will be an excellent opportunity to train whoever will be doing the site next year).
http://www.team587.org, public is fine.

nzamorski 25-03-2008 00:08

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If you could review my teams website www.core2062.com that would be great. Thank you for taking the time to evaluate teams websites.

BordomBeThyName 25-03-2008 00:29

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oh wow, You're gonna be way busy with these, but if you could fit www.sdarobotics.org into your lineup, it'd be great.

Mihai 25-03-2008 01:09

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I'd greatly appreciate a review. Thanks so much!

www.thunderchickens.org

Ashwin 25-03-2008 02:43

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Can you please evaluate my teams site, Monta Vista Robotics Team #115

www.mvrt.com

Thanks a lot

KathieK 25-03-2008 06:37

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Michelle has the right idea - if you are interested in improving your website, look at the criteria used in evaluating the sites for the website award (even if you are not planning to compete for the award). You can ask anyone to do it using this criteria.

One thing many sites forget to do is check spelling and grammar. And then check all links to see if any are broken. Two very simple things to start with. Ask an english teacher at your school for help with the proofreading. Another common mistake is to forget to say who you are and where you are located, right up front, on the homepage. A third thing is not defining your audience - is this a website for the public to learn more about you? Then don't have team content on the homepage (like, the bus will be picking us up on Wednesday morning at 6:00 a.m. in front of school)! Put it on a team sub-page!
Concentrate on the content of your site, then the layout and design aspects. That often takes two different skillsets; it's not easy for one person to be both the designer, the webmaster, and the content editor.

Hope these tips help!

Kyler 25-03-2008 14:49

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hey, our website is new this year so we didn't have it judged. I am sure there will be lots wrong with it so please let me know. www.team1625.com . you can say stuff in the open.

daryl 25-03-2008 19:12

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I would love if you could evaluate our team site: http://www.stuypulse.com. Public is okay.

Thanks so much for taking the time to do this!

Doug G 25-03-2008 19:42

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As per your PM Request...

www.vandenrobotics.org

PM me the response

Thanks again!

Michelle Celio 26-03-2008 11:40

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This was more popular than I expected. I'm working on them...kinda, I got hit with tons of homework (yay college).

Keep in mind, this is just so you can improve your team's site and all reviewing based on only my judgment, don't take this as a reflection of how your team may have / may be scored.

If you'd like to "sign up" please, as I said before...copy the list, I makes it easier for me to track who I have to do.

List as stands
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20.

KathieK 26-03-2008 12:30

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Although teams are allowed to continuously update their websites if you have submitted your site for a Website Award at an upcoming Regional, please identify yourselves. I think it would be GP to have us not review your site until AFTER your Regional, in all fairness to others.

After all website judging is finished, I wouldn't mind taking a look at sites and offering some comments. In fact, I have a half-written NEMO white paper on the topic that I may find time to finish and publish, giving you the summer to think about making changes in your site.

SPurekar 26-03-2008 12:40

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Thank you so much! Our website team will really appreciate it. If you pm me with the results, that would be great! Thanks again Michelle!

The list:
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21.

zivo123 26-03-2008 14:10

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we would love it if you can review our site... www.ortrobotics1690.com
dont be too mean :)

EDIT: out on the open is fine.

Cptn Patches537 26-03-2008 14:57

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www.team537.com

im sure our web designer would love the advice! a post on the forum is fine.

Equinox 26-03-2008 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zivo123 (Post 725281)
we would love it if you can review our site... www.ortrobotics1690.com
dont be too mean :)

I don't know, perhaps it is just me but your website seems to be malfunctioning. I click on links and the whole page literally disappears and all I see is that metal background. I refresh it goes back again and then disappears just as fast. I just wanted to look at it and I can't. :( Using Firefox here.

The website designer must have liked heXen...

Sunshine 26-03-2008 16:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 725344)
I don't know, perhaps it is just me but your website seems to be malfunctioning. I click on links and the whole page literally disappears and all I see is that metal background. I refresh it goes back again and then disappears just as fast. I just wanted to look at it and I can't. :( Using Firefox here.
.

Same thing happened to me with both Firefox and Safari

swaknight 26-03-2008 16:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 725344)
I don't know, perhaps it is just me but your website seems to be malfunctioning. I click on links and the whole page literally disappears and all I see is that metal background. I refresh it goes back again and then disappears just as fast. I just wanted to look at it and I can't. :( Using Firefox here.

IDK if this is the only problem but here is what i noticed.

1. you start the menu out hidden, but that would only explain the menus, not the pages.

2. (most likely from what i saw) you never ended the iframe. Its not a safe ending one either (meaning <iframe ....> </iframe>

I only glanced at the code so i might have missed something but i think that the iframe is messing you up in firefox and safari.

swaknight 26-03-2008 17:06

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ignore that last one, i figured it out. this is your problem

Quote:

<body style="visibility: hidden;" background="Team%20%231690%20'THE%20ANSWER'_files/metal003.gif">
you need to get rid of the (style="visibility: hidden;"). that causes your whole page to go byebye. and seeing as your javascript only affects the tables and not the body, thats a bad thing.

Eugene Fang 25-04-2008 02:30

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Thanks so much.

The list:
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com
22. http://www.team537.com
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com
24. http://
25. http://
26. http://

erikab 25-04-2008 03:11

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Team 1717:

www.dpengineering.org

PM, please. Thanks, this is a great resource to all of the teams!

AdamHeard 25-04-2008 04:07

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lol, this won't be pretty...

the site really needs to be worked on, so, let us know what you think.

www.greybots.com

neutrino15 25-04-2008 04:10

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If you could review our site, that would be great.. We were almost certain we could win this year... :(

http://stuypulse.com

Samuel H. 25-04-2008 09:39

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
The list:
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26.

Woe 25-04-2008 12:07

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This is our "corporate" website, not the student-designed site, so it wouldn't follow the same criteria. If you wouldn't mind, and only when you get a chance and have a break between student-sites, I'd love it if you could provide overall impressions.

It doesn't display well in Firefox; not sure why. www.rivercityrobots.org

Thanks for all the work you are doing! You are providing great feedback!

CameraManWill 25-04-2008 12:18

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Team 2556

www.webuildbots.com

In a pm pls. :)

Thanks tons for your time.

Pavan Dave 02-05-2008 00:09

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Are you allowed to use templates for sites? I have seen multiple robotics teams use the following template and I am wondering if one of them won, how fair it would be to the others?

-- HTTP://www.mechanicalcreator.com/index.html --

BornaE 02-05-2008 00:13

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www.hhsrobotics.org

Thank You

Michelle Celio 02-05-2008 00:30

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Alright guys, sorry I haven't been around to do these.

But my finals are over. I hope to get 10ish done this weekend.

I'll PM when yours is done, but post the results in the thread so others can use it to improve. (Unless you asked for PM, then it'll be there)

Oh, and can we not take teams off the list when we are copying it please :)

The List
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/ (Pm)
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/ (PM)
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26. http://www.rivercityrobots.org/ (no FF)
27. http://www.webuildbots.com/
28. http://www.hhsrobotics.org/


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavan Dave (Post 744974)
Are you allowed to use templates for sites? I have seen multiple robotics teams use the following template and I am wondering if one of them won, how fair it would be to the others?
-- HTTP://www.mechanicalcreator.com/index.html --

I'm not the biggest fan of it, but teams have to be careful about violating copywrite rules. I'm no expert on the ruling for this, but I'm almost positive that it's within the rules.

erikab 02-05-2008 01:33

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You can post (instead of PM) Team 1717's site evaluation (dpengineering.org), so that others may benefit from the advice given.

Thanks again!

Alan Anderson 02-05-2008 07:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavan Dave (Post 744974)
Are you allowed to use templates for sites? I have seen multiple robotics teams use the following template and I am wondering if one of them won, how fair it would be to the others?

Web sites are more than their "look". Content is key.

Andrew Schuetze 02-05-2008 07:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 744978)
Alright guys, sorry I haven't been around to do these.


The List
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/ (Pm)
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/ (PM)
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26. http://www.rivercityrobots.org/ (no FF)
27. http://www.webuildbots.com/
28. http://www.hhsrobotics.org/
29. http://www.toltechs.com/

I added #29 Toltechs.com and we'll accept your comments posted to this thread.
Thanks a bunch for doing all of this mentoring post season:D

APS

RyanCesiel 03-05-2008 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavan Dave (Post 744974)
Are you allowed to use templates for sites? I have seen multiple robotics teams use the following template and I am wondering if one of them won, how fair it would be to the others?

-- HTTP://www.mechanicalcreator.com/index.html --

It's very, very disappointing to see teams using templates. That eliminates almost 75% of the learning experience.

Uberbots 03-05-2008 13:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanCesiel (Post 745360)
It's very, very disappointing to see teams using templates. That eliminates almost 75% of the learning experience.

it also eliminates 75% of the work, so they can focus on the content more.


...sometimes...

swaknight 03-05-2008 14:07

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to me, templates are half the fun. That is to say that i make my own 'template' for whatever website i am working on. they don't all that long to make really, esspecially since you have a whole summer of time inbetween seasons. I dont agree with using premade templates though, to me that is taking the lazy way out. In the business word, employers hire you for your ability to make new things, not to use things that are already made (that is using them exactly and without change)

zerogabe 03-05-2008 14:13

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Can you please view our.

alhambrarobotic2365.webs.com

vikram31291 03-05-2008 16:27

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We(1086) would love to get a review of our website. It was made this year to match our new theme. www.1086bluecheese.org

The List
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/ (Pm)
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/ (PM)
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26. http://www.rivercityrobots.org/ (no FF)
27. http://www.webuildbots.com/
28. http://www.hhsrobotics.org/
29. http://www.toltechs.com/
30. http://www.1086bluecheese.org/

popnbrown 03-05-2008 20:58

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vikram31291 (Post 745382)
We(1086) would love to get a review of our website. It was made this year to match our new theme. www.1086bluecheese.org

The List
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/ (Pm)
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/ (PM)
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26. http://www.rivercityrobots.org/ (no FF)
27. http://www.webuildbots.com/
28. http://www.hhsrobotics.org/
29. http://www.toltechs.com/
30. http://www.1086bluecheese.org/


Team 1403 would graciously like to ask for an analysis as well.
www.team1403.net

smurfgirl 03-05-2008 22:34

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 745363)
it also eliminates 75% of the work, so they can focus on the content more.


...sometimes...

Not necessarily- I'd be surprised if you told me our team is the only one who has different people making the website than the people who are responsible for the content.

RyanCesiel 04-05-2008 10:25

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 745363)
it also eliminates 75% of the work, so they can focus on the content more.


...sometimes...

My whole point is that by not using a template they get more exposure to CSS, HTML, and maybe PHP which is a huge part of the experience.

Alan Anderson 04-05-2008 14:36

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanCesiel (Post 745477)
My whole point is that by not using a template they get more exposure to CSS, HTML, and maybe PHP which is a huge part of the experience.

On the other hand, it might not be a desired part of the experience. For someone whose goal is merely to present information in an easy-to-access way, using a well-tweaked template could be the best solution.

Is the process more important, or is the result? That depends on whether the evaluation looks at the web site and pages or at the development tools and source code. As someone who uses web sites more often than creating them, my obvious bias is that the result is more important.

Alex_2487 06-05-2008 15:42

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
if you could look at team 2487's website that would be great

http://meltingpointgraphics.com/mechanicalanimals/

cbale2000 06-05-2008 16:02

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
I know it's probably not one of the best sites, but we could always use feedback, so:

http://www.team703.com

vikram31291 06-05-2008 21:35

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cbale2000 (Post 746190)
I know it's probably not one of the best sites, but we could always use feedback, so:

http://www.team703.com

The logo in the banner is awesome!
Was it made in photoshop? fireworks?

Samuel H. 07-05-2008 09:47

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
The List
1. http://robonauts.org/
2. http://www.waialuarobotics.com/
3. http://www.whitebearlakerobotics.com/
4. http://www.team399.org/
5. http://www.firstteam397.com/
6. http://www.fairportfirst.com/
7. http://www.vandenrobotics.org/ (Pm)
8. http://www.team56.com/
9. http://www.project1726.org/2008web
10. http://www.uberbots.org/
11. http://www.team1676.com/
12. http://www.2080.lafrc.org/ (Pm)
13. http://www.team587.org/
14. http://www.core2062.com/
15. http://www.sdarobotics.org/
16. http://www.thunderchickens.org/
17. http://www.mvrt.com/
18. http://www.team1625.com/
19. http://www.stuypulse.com/
20. http://www.hammerhead226.org/
21. http://www.ortrobotics1690.com/
22. http://www.team537.com/
23. http://www.lelandrobotics.com/
24. http://www.dpengineering.org/ (PM)
25. http://www.greybots.com/
26. http://www.rivercityrobots.org/ (no FF)
27. http://www.webuildbots.com/
28. http://www.hhsrobotics.org/
29. http://www.toltechs.com/
30. http://alhambrarobotic2365.webs.com
31. http://www.1086bluecheese.org/
32. www.team1403.net
33. http://meltingpointgraphics.com/mechanicalanimals/
34. http://www.team703.com

Chief Pride 07-05-2008 10:33

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
http://team.chiefdelphi.com

GaryVoshol 07-05-2008 11:55

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanCesiel (Post 745360)
It's very, very disappointing to see teams using templates. That eliminates almost 75% of the learning experience.

Is that not like saying, don't use the kitbot frame and transmissions?

There are valid reasons for starting on your own from scratch, just as there are valid reasons for using kits that are available to you.

lukevanoort 07-05-2008 12:54

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 746382)
Is that not like saying, don't use the kitbot frame and transmissions?

I have no strong opinions here, but I don't think that that is a valid comparison. Creating a custom transmission requires expensive tools that many do not have access to. Learning (X)HTML, CSS, PHP, etc. is free and doesn't require expensive tools at all (they can even be written in Notepad). All it takes is effort and a little time.

popnbrown 07-05-2008 13:42

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Any update on the list as in those that need to be done, just to see where ours is?

Michelle Celio 07-05-2008 14:53

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popnbrown (Post 746418)
Any update on the list as in those that need to be done, just to see where ours is?

I feel really bad about taking so long with these, with finals and now switching dorms and about to start summer classes I'm getting them done in my free time. The way I do them takes extra long so bare with me.

I have 2 done so for you, theres 30 teams ahead.

In better news, I'll defiantly have them done before next kick off ;)

popnbrown 07-05-2008 15:51

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Haha...yes as long as its before next season. I was asking out of curiousity...I have nothing better to do than check ChiefDelphi and post stuff every other class.

Pavan Dave 07-05-2008 16:01

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 746444)
I feel really bad about taking so long with these, with finals and now switching dorms and about to start summer classes I'm getting them done in my free time. The way I do them takes extra long so bare with me.

I have 2 done so for you, theres 30 teams ahead.

In better news, I'll defiantly have them done before next kick off ;)

So would I be wrong assume that you will post all 30 at once then?

Michelle Celio 07-05-2008 17:09

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavan Dave (Post 746475)
So would I be wrong assume that you will post all 30 at once then?

I'm gonna post them in batches of 10 actually :P So this way they are not waiting that long.

Rupnick 09-05-2008 12:05

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
www.Team1675.org

I would much appreciate it.

ZInventor 09-05-2008 12:25

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
http://frcteam2002.com


if you want, you can post results in the web-design showcase thread "Team 2002's re-skinned website"

thanks, reviews are greatly appreciated!

The FRC Team #2002 Webmaster.

Eugene Fang 04-01-2009 02:47

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Thank you so much for posting the evaluations!

Michelle Celio 04-01-2009 07:19

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pikat (Post 790638)
Thank you so much for posting the evaluations!

Sorry it took so long! I'll be PMing everyone within the next few hours just to let them know it is up (white paper link.) It probably got lost with all the fuss of kickoff. CD was just outta control.

commodoredl 04-01-2009 11:03

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Thanks for finishing the evaluations. :)

bobl 04-01-2009 11:15

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
What a great service! Team 58 would welcome your critique of our website. The URL is www.riotcrew.org. Please reply in the open but if you could also reply via email it would be appreciated.

Thank you
Bob Libby
Team58 - The Riot Crew

Michelle Celio 04-01-2009 11:30

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobl (Post 790832)
What a great service! Team 58 would welcome your critique of our website. The URL is www.riotcrew.org. Please reply in the open but if you could also reply via email it would be appreciated.

Thank you
Bob Libby
Team58 - The Riot Crew

Sorry - I'm not taking for 2009 yet. After the Championship - gotta stay fair.

However, feel free to the check out The 2008 Evaluations for ideas on how to improve.

smurfgirl 04-01-2009 11:54

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Thank you Michelle!

Pavan Dave 04-01-2009 11:56

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Thanks for the Evals. We had the main site and a developer site. I submitted the developer site because at any instant it was more accurate than the main site. I think there were errors when it came to some of the media files [naming etc] and there was a bit of bad, loose code here and there. As for the rest, it seems about par. I was expecting a 70ish but not bad at all considering I didn't mind losing points to not dislpay a little bit of Botball.

Pavan

TheOtherGuy 04-01-2009 11:56

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Hmm, ours doesn't appear to be in the list :eek:
Was it lost in translation? perhaps our server was acting up when you went to look at it?

It's not incredibly important, I was just surprised not to see ours in there.

(and all the other evaluations are very in-depth; this must have taken forever! Thanks for offering and accomplishing this feat!)

coolfilmaker 04-01-2009 18:19

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Could you evaluate ours? wickedwobotics.org

commodoredl 04-01-2009 18:27

Re: Offering Website Evaluations
 
Michelle, you may want to rename this thread so people don't inundate it with new requests.
To reiterate, Michelle said she will not be evaluating any websites for 2009 until after the championship. The ones she uploaded were from last year.


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