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I definitely didn't say 189 was worse than 478. We have definite respect for you guys and your robot. I certainly didn't pick in terms of how good the robots were, but rather by strategy.

It is a general concensus (spelling mistake?) that the winning alliance will consistant of a combination of at least one ramp robot and at least one stack robot. The reason I picked 74 over you guys is because they've won 4 regionals and are one of the favourites going into this competition.

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I am not saying that we are defently going to make it there but i am saying that it's a possiblity

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Just so there is no mis-understanding, i am not a member of FTC 189.

Edit: Everything is a possibility

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Irregardless, 189 is definitely on the top of our scouting sheet going into Atlanta. Also, I'm going to assume 189 drastically changed their robot because of your comment =P

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I can't wait for Atlanta to see whos right about alliances and who takes it all

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Don't take my word for it. I was reffering to another robot. One in which you maybe familiar with. ;)

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In the case of 339, they are in a different division than us and 189, so it won't be an issue until finals.

I think 339 was who you were referring to?

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Have we forgot about 211 robodogs? They were a great partner in NYC and from what I hear just about as good as simbotics.

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I personally didn't think they were at the same level as 339 or 3 based on the videos you posted of them at PA. Then again, I definitely could be wrong, I've never seen them up close.

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No, not at all. Your're missing my point. You will just have to wait and see. :D

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We will see what happens in Atlanta. Everything will be different from the regionals.

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I heard that 211 was good but not as good as 339

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The difficulty with FTC is that generally there is so little information available to do decent scouting. Or scouting comparable to the level you'd expect from FRC.

If you asked me who the "best" FTC teams are right now, I'd honestly have no clue. I'd also be half expecting to find a dozen or so EXCELLENT robots that I've never heard of.

It's a fine balance with FTC. With the history of "comandeered" designs, many good teams are reluctant to post videos of their robots. But there's a point in time where this works against you; you might have a great robot that no one knows about, and slips through the cracks come eliminations.

You might've even won a tournament, and scored some of the highest scoring matches in all of FTC... and people still would have no idea who you are. FTC is a strange beast sometimes.

The information just isn't out there for FTC, but eventually, you either a) get the word out about your robot, or b) hope that the good teams down there scout you and understand what you bring to the table.

Hopefully, you do some of both.

P.S. I'm not a member of 189 either. I have no idea what new tricks they have up their sleeve, but we'll find out soon enough.

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Oh no, a mysterious modification to a mysterious robot! Can't wait =)

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True because in ftc there is no shipping the robot to atlanta and you can't work on it, you can copy anybody's design thats why 339 covers theirs.

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Alot of the teams don't look to see if they win the regional but where the team places in the standing snad their rp

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Wow, Edison is talking a lot of smack out here. We'd better come and bring it this Thursday/Friday. :P

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I agree...EDISON>>>

And that is something which I hope will change with the new kits. The robots should be shipped mainly for the copying and steeling of ideas. Teams that have been working hard to come up with their own ideas, get beaten by a robot who just ripped them off..It's not fair...it's no innovative..it's not FIRST.

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Were supporting the divison thats going to win in Atlanta, Duh it's going to be Edison :D:D:D:D

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Yes it's true it's stealing ideas and i do not like it but if they beat you with that same idea doesn't that prove the team has the skill to develop the idea and build it?

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Lets keep this thread about Atlanta.

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I'd be willing to make a bet that there are a few beastly teams which copied 339's strategy in not mentioning themselves online. And nobody will know of them because they are either rookies or unknown in previous years.

I only have scouting data on about 30% of teams (pictures and data) and have heard the results of about 20% more, which leaves me wondering what the other half will bring to the field.

On the other hand, if a team is consistently good, it is often well-known.

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this is actually something our team strived to maintain even while we knew that the other design was far more efficient than ours. even then, we proceeded to the semifinals of the Georgia regional and the Quarterfinals of the NC regional... because we kept our robot's design all in all the same, we felt a lot more proud of our robot than i think we would have if we had copied some other team's idea

unfortunately we wont be attending the Championships, but our team wishes the best of luck to all teams who are -

oh, and one more thing - GO EDISON!

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well ya im pritty sure no one has ever heard of 434 but we went 11-0 in the san jose reginal and have a high score of 86. it just goes to show ya the some of the rookies can have a shot at this and also its always good going in a competition when no one knows you and you can shock the crowd. and even if someone saw our robot we completely changed it and we are ready for altanta so everyone try your best and good luck:]

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Good luck to all teams and congrats now for just making it to Atlanta

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Nobody's heard of us NorCal vex folks. We won with them as well (and helped in the high score!).
Since the scrimmage?

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Your high score is nice but high scores do not show how good a team is. I am not saying you guys arn't good but WHat the robot does and works is how a team is good or not

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Ok, well the moment of truth is coming ever faster and teams are all great. If teams got by on luck, i'm sure that they have changed their design to match the intensity of other bots.

Yes, team 736, Robolions, also had to face the decision to keep our bot or go with a copy we found on the internet....we went with out bot...we did lose...but hey...i'm happy about how we performed.

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Keep in mind, 655. We came in second at the CT. Regional and won the RI Regional. =)

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and your bot was really good, I was going to pick you guys second but you got picked first.

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no not since the scrimmage it is the same but look a lot different since the scrimmage. bc we redid the sides of the robot. but only teams that have seen us in san jose know how do our bot was.

and it is so true no one know about us nor cal bots.

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Yeah, high scores definitely aren't everything. The matches my team plays in tend to be low-scoring for both alliances, but that's because we have a really awesome defensive robot which shuts down a lot of high scorers but can't handle rings at all.

(The California teams in general aren't getting much recognition here. And there's a decent amount of good teams going - Beach Cities, anyone?)

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Quite true, you guys were awesome at Vegas. (We were the biggish bot with the long arm.) Hopefully the Californian teams can make an impression at nationals this year. :)

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EMP and Enstein's daughter did a wonderful job representing California teams last year. This year, with more teams from California going, perhaps more teams will stand out.

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i do hope that we leave a big impact on atlanta this year.:] :D :]
ill see everyone there and good luck.
and also i know its not all about high scores i was just saying that we have a good robot that has some potential

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Finally In Atlanta, After a broke caliber on the brakes and being delayed for 6 hours we finally made to Atlanta and We are pumped for setting up the field for ftc tommarow

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What an exciting day! with a new highscore of 111. Congradulations to both teams, especially 211 since you guys are canadian :p And im proud to say that 211 was part of our alliance at the Ontario championship ! :D

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I just want to say that even with the delay on the other division today's fields were ran well and that it was an amazing day can't wait till eliminations tommarow

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Any idea where i can find the rankings and match list? I'd appreciate it, if someone posted it.

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They do not post the match list or standings for FTC.

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Hmm, now where can I find all the results for FTC teams and awards? :confused:

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The winnerf the World Championships in Atlanta is from Edison; It is team 12,14 and 74 i think

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And 801 (Mexico) took home the Inspire award.

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Congrats! I kinda fell asleep and missed the award ceremony on webcast. Anyone can list out all the awardees?

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No the winning teams were 30, 74, and 23. The finalist were teams 3, 13, and 25. From team 74 we give our thanks to all teams that competed and to our alliance partners. I hope some one post video of the final matches I had to much fun driving :) .

Also, the high score of the Championships was 121 by team 74, and 30 (I am also very happy with that!).

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well..at least i was right about 74 and team 3. Both had amazing robots...Simbotics had an amazing robot but it just wasn't their year...

And yes, i would like to see the finals...if anyone could post a link to those videos..that would be great...

Also, did the match go into 3 games?

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It only went for two.

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The last match was without a doubt the best FTC match I've seen this entire season. 74 started out by picking up their opponents rings and dumping them in their basket, preventing 13 from picking them up. By 1:15, the field was nearly bare of rings.

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I liked the battle we had against team 3 with keeping the goals and moving goals so their stacker bot missed the rings it was trying to score.

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Anyone got any footage?

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I am also requesting footage of the elimination matches for FTC. If anyone has them I will gladly pay for shipping and even a small fee if they are complete.

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I've hosting space too if anyone wants to put it online. :o

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i have a bunch of pictures that i can put online... if i can find a place to upload them
i took 500 pictures from just the friday of the VEX event, so yeah.... lots of pictures there

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23, 30, and 74 definitely deserved the win! We already knew how awesome 23 was after they beat us at San Diego, and even when we kept 30 from scoring they still managed to win on goals. Congratulations to the winning alliance from team 25! We'll see you next year!

(To the Einstein's Daughters, if they read this- enjoy your trophy. :p)

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COngrats to team 74,30 and 23 in a fantastic win for the Edison DIvison :D

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Here is some video of one of the matches with 30, 74 (I think final on Edison or the match we pulled a 121 pointer, I really don't know. By the way this is the first video of Overdrive uploaded this whole season).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1EHRby2G3Q0

And here is one of the final matches but I am guessing the user that posted this video will upload the second match in a while.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV7uU0t1ikU

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Heh, the FTC championship was a nice compliment to not getting picked in Curie. Beach Cities had a blast. See you all next year???

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Probably. Who cares about those ungainly big robots? They look kind of grotesque now. Midirobots rule.

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Hopefully. :)

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The first Edison quarter final was with 30 & 74 where we combined for a score of 121. The second quarter final was with 30 & 23, where we scored a total of 119. I believe those were the two highest scoring matches in the tournament!

The first final between the two divisions was really exciting for us. We got to show off the full capability of our bot when it really counted! I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the second single goal open up in the last 15 seconds. Team 25 had it locked up for the majority of the match! When I got onto the field to check the position, I found it was only in our zone by 0.5"!

Special thanks to 25, 30, and 74. You guys rocked!

Andrew
FTC Team 23 Coach

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Heh, you guys did a great job of getting that last goal. Unfortunately, we had to let it go while we tried to prevent 30 from scoring- if they'd gotten those rings on it wouldn't have mattered whether you guys got the goal or not. Eh, you win some, you lose some.

It was always funny when both alliances were trying to score on the post at the same time and we'd be frantically trying to move one end while keeping the other as still as possible. Thank goodness Mr. Roboto had that hook. :D

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I was really happy to see southern California teams in the finals! It seemed our paths always crossed at the finals though. I remember thinking, "these gals can play some serious defense; we have our work cut out for us." Perhaps next year we can pair up like we did in LA!

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When we found out we were going against you guys in the final match, we thought "Oh no! These guys can play some really good offense, and they know exactly how our bot works! They already know how to beat us!" Needless to say, the last match we played in was one of our toughtest ever.

I can't wait 'til I get a copy of the photo we took with you guys. It was hilarious and awesome all at once. :cool:

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Photos up at our website.

http://teen-technology.org/atlanta0708.aspx

Ok I patched together this final match video, its was taken with one camera which got auto mode and a little of user control when the battery died and then smartly our camera man used a digital camera to record the rest.

http://teen-technology.org/Documents/Final.wmv