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Has anyone ever toyed with the idea of doing a 8-1 1-8 pick?

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The only way I see of changing the rankings to truly make it the best of the best and not based on the luck(and Un-Luck) of the Alliance pairings is to redo the entire ranking system and based it on a different criteria. like your match scores, take the average of your full match scores and add the average of your individual team's match scores as a ranking or some form of your contribution to the score as a statistic.

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You my good friend are mistaken. There are four divisions in Atlanta. In Newton, the #8 alliance (190, 987, 177) beat the #1 alliance, then the #4 alliance, then the #3 alliance to win the division. In Arhci, the #8 fell to the #1. In Gallileo, the #8 beat the #1 and then the #5 (I believe) before falling in the division finals. In Curie, the #8 also fell to the #1.

So far, we have #8's going to the finals and winning their division. However, remember that #8 alliance who won Newton? They are also the reigning FIRST Robotics Competition world champions. So not only the #8 seed win at Atlanta, they won Atlanta :P

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I believe martin417 is referring to the Peachtree Regional this year, and not the Atlanta Championships last year.

EDIT: On the topic of serpentine drafting, I think very highly of it. At most regional level competitions, the first seed still has a large advantage, as there are not enough high-scoring teams to make it all the way around. At Championships, there is not much of a drop-off, so the #1 alliance can still get quite a good team, and the #8 alliance doesn't have the disadvantage of not being able to pick anyone they want.

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Indeed I was. Sorry I misunderstood the post. At the Peachtree regional, some very good teams ended up in the finals. Some very good teams were also eliminated. Some that I think deserved to go to the championships.

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I was toying around with the idea of a reverse serpentine with DannyMcc the other day and we though that it would level the field out even more. Thats assuming that your #1 seed is the best team though.

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For those wanting an 8-1 first round (no matter the second round), IT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN.

Think about it.

You know that if you are first seed, you pick last in the first round. The best teams will be gone by then. That's also assuming you aren't picked by someone lower than you! So you want to pick earlier. The logical thing to do is to drop a match or two to pick earlier...but your partners now hate you for doing that...and you can't predict how matches go.

This aside from the fact that the #9 team called up would be higher than #8, unless you also barred picking within the top 8, which probably won't go over well either.

It just doesn't make sense.

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Realistically, I think 1-8 1-8 is the way to go. Other than the rare occasion (190 - 987 - 177 Archi last year) 1-8 8-1 seems to hurt any team in the #5 - #24 position depending on the regional, while simultaneously hurting the #1 seed depending on the regional. I understand the reasoning, which is leveling the playing field, but I think hurting the teams that did the hard work to get into #1 isn't the way to go.