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CJMyers 01-04-2008 15:24

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Question for rookie teams over 2668. Team 2668 registered 2 weeks after the deadline for the last payment. I'd like to know when team 2681 registered.

Mark McLeod 01-04-2008 15:41

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CJMyers (Post 728598)
I'd like to know when team 2681 registered.

They showed up on January 15.
32 days after you registered.

(databases are cool :) )

Racer26 01-04-2008 18:01

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Wow... FIRST's youngest rookie team was started AFTER kickoff? Thats impressive.

EDIT: Well, they're not REALLY rookie's, being that they're a breakaway from 354.

aksimhal 01-04-2008 20:13

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1075guy (Post 728701)
Wow... FIRST's youngest rookie team was started AFTER kickoff? Thats impressive.

EDIT: Well, they're not REALLY rookie's, being that they're a breakaway from 354.

They're not the only ones. A couple rookie team's have been "breakaways" from older teams.

XXShadowXX 01-04-2008 22:25

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt C (Post 728553)
I wonder if they will ever return to the low numbers that were left behind by teams reactivating as rookie teams and teams that never competed.

no they don't all the lower number were assigned a school keeps it's number even if it goes inactive for several years.
Our one mentor is from team 1286 and his team disbanded if they stayed disbanded for 2 more years they could be rookies in 2010, but they would still have the number 1286... its werid

EricH 02-04-2008 01:10

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XXShadowXX (Post 728919)
no they don't all the lower number were assigned a school keeps it's number even if it goes inactive for several years.
Our one mentor is from team 1286 and his team disbanded if they stayed disbanded for 2 more years they could be rookies in 2010, but they would still have the number 1286... its werid

Team 4? Team 39? Both were teams in other places than SoCal and Arizona, I'm sure. They went inactive for several years. Then other teams needed non-rookie numbers. Guess what?

Mark McLeod 02-04-2008 11:10

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 729014)
Team 4? Team 39? Both were teams in other places than SoCal and Arizona, I'm sure.

Actually, no they weren't.
Those team numbers were not assigned from 1998 on until the current teams received them. You can see they weren't assigned in 1998 by Joe Ross's link to the 1998 team list. We might be able to figure out who the numbers were planned for, but those teams never materialized and they became the first of the skipped numbers.

So far I haven't seen evidence of any old team numbers being reassigned although I've looked for several years now.
All the recent low number teams are getting numbers that have never been used in the era of permanent team numbers.

P.S.
Other numbers from that initial 1998 block that have not yet been assigned to any team include:
51, 78, 156, 193 and 199

Mark McLeod 02-04-2008 11:23

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XXShadowXX (Post 728919)
Our one mentor is from team 1286 and his team disbanded if they stayed disbanded for 2 more years they could be rookies in 2010, but they would still have the number 1286... its werid

Retaining the same team number after three years is up to FIRST of course, however, they have a history of giving teams new numbers, so his school may not retain their old number unless a significant percentage of original members return.

These are Long Island teams because I'm most interested in my local friends, but...

Team 273 dropped out for one year and FIRST made them take a new number 514 in 2001.

194 returned as 271
567 returned as 1546
646 returned as 2487
778 returned as 2476

XXShadowXX 02-04-2008 12:25

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
maybe he requested that idk

Mark McLeod 02-04-2008 13:19

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
I hope he doesn't wait out two more years just to see!
Are you guys trying to help restart that team?
There's a great service project for you.

The Lucas 02-04-2008 14:27

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aksimhal (Post 728821)
They're not the only ones. A couple rookie team's have been "breakaways" from older teams.

Usually, breakaways from vets don't take rookie numbers like 424 (from 340), 70 (from 494). I guess it is their choice.

GaryVoshol 02-04-2008 16:13

Re: Random question about the history of team numbers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lucas (Post 729229)
Usually, breakaways from vets don't take rookie numbers like 424 (from 340), 70 (from 494). I guess it is their choice.

No, it is not their choice. FIRST has a list of criteria which determine rookie status. When teams split off, it depends on how many student members of the new team participated in the past. See http://www.usfirst.org/community/frc...t.aspx?id=6632


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