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BornaE

06-04-2008 00:44

if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

I just did a quick search on FIRST and looks like lots of people forget to italicize FIRST
I was wondering if it would be good to automatically parse capitalized FIRST and change it to FIRST.

Just a "thought"!

Michelle Celio

06-04-2008 00:46

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by 0705920 (Post 731239)

I totally agree. I know Jessica Boucher posted something FIRST sent out and it was made a sticky but it seems that it's been over looked by most.

Thank you for putting this out in the open once more.

Protronie

06-04-2008 00:52

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM
Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...

Michelle Celio

06-04-2008 00:54

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by Protronie (Post 731249)

ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM
Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...

To me its about having respect for the organization wishes.

The organization that if it had not been for it, we would not be posting on this forum.

BornaE

06-04-2008 01:00

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protronie (Post 731249)

ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM
Isn't expressing your thoughts and ideas more important than rather or not the words in the proper format?

Thats my 2 cents on the matter...

I Agree that "ITS JUST A POST IN A FORUM", and I am not saying that there the people who forgot to italicize did something wrong. In fact I probably did the same thing if I look at my posts
But if CD can implement this, why not do it so we are going by FIRST guidelines?!

whytheheckme

06-04-2008 01:05

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by 0705920 (Post 731256)

Yeah it'd be a simple filter. Kinda like woot! turns BOC into whatever it feels like that day in its posts, such as Bandolier Of Carrots, Baiting Other Consumers, etc.

And why not? Seems legit.

Jacob

BornaE

06-04-2008 01:08

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by whytheheckme (Post 731259)

GREAT!

Greg Marra

06-04-2008 01:11

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 731251)

To me its about having respect for the organization wishes.

The organization that if it had not been for it, we would not be posting on this forum.

If you automatically italicize it when people post it, it shows no respect, only that a filter changed my text for me.

Michelle Celio

06-04-2008 01:18

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by Greg Marra (Post 731263)

If you automatically italicize it when people post it, it shows no respect, only that a filter changed my text for me.

The fact that Protronie suggested that we just ignore this is what I meant.

Having a filter will not change others use of it elsewhere but will provide a sense that someone does actually care about what FIRST wants for their image.

I'm sure if you requested "The Blue Alliance" to be used a certain way, you would want people to actually respect your decision and follow what you ask for.

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Anyway, as for the implementation, if its a simple edit to the forums and wont affect the daily posting of the many users, I don't see why there should be any disagreement as to why it shouldn't be implemented.

If 0705920 was asking for "first" and "FIRST" to be changed to "FIRST" then I'd understand the concern becuase it would alter the context of some messages.

Greg Marra

06-04-2008 12:44

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

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Originally Posted by Michelle Celio (Post 731268)

If 0705920 was asking for "first" and "FIRST" to be changed to "FIRST" then I'd understand the concern becuase it would alter the context of some messages.

But this is the FIRST time anyone has asked for a filter like this!

But now I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.

BornaE

06-04-2008 13:18

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Originally Posted by Greg Marra (Post 731408)

But this is the FIRST time anyone has asked for a filter like this!

But now I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.

:cool: In that case, there would be checkbox "Automatically parse/italicize FIRST in text";)

SL8	06-04-2008 13:37

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

Interesting, definitely a good idea to look into.
I am :( guilty of not always italicizing FIRST .
But I try to not forget as much as possible.
The check box may be a good idea because it show some individual (and group) initiative.

Tristan Lall

06-04-2008 15:23

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

In English, there's no linguistic distinction between a name or acronym being written in plain typeface versus italics—so in conventional usage, there's no standard meaning. (Contrast that with the use of italics to signify a book title, or for contextual emphasis.) So when you choose to italicize it, you'll confuse a subset of readers, who will wonder what the special significance of the name is. Is it colloquial usage? Is there something about the context that makes the name important?

So what's the point? It's pretty much like asking (very politely) that my name be written only with a drop shadow. In other words, it's a little absurd.

Actually, if I remember correctly, the intention was to distinguish the name and acronym "FIRSТ" from the word "first". It seems to me that the capitalization already accomplishes this sufficiently well.

But then again, if the filter is so desperately wanted, make sure it can be turned off and that it doesn't apply to past posts (e.g. it's applied at preview-time or submission-time, rather than at render-time).

SL8	06-04-2008 15:26

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Originally Posted by Tristan Lall (Post 731480)

Good point....

artdutra04

06-04-2008 16:35

Re: if (text = FIRST) text = [I]FIRST[/I];

If I wrote FIRST on a essay for an English class, the professor would either assume I'm talking about a movie, a novel, or an ship, or would just mark it as a wrong use of italicization. However if I left it as FIRST, it would be pretty clear that it is a acronym, and through context, an organization.

I will follow FIRST's guidelines, as long as they conform with those of the English language.

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