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sdcantrell56 20-04-2008 23:31

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Thanks so much lilstogi. Thats what I was hoping for so much after we weren't picked in the first round. Unfortunately I knew no matter how many we hurdled with the alliance we had there was no way we could win, especially with them not playing any defense on you guys.

I definitely think us with you and the beast would have been unstoppable. As far as a pure hurdler, I still stand by the fact that we are one of the best in the world. Now our hybrid on the other hand is a different story.

Akash Rastogi 20-04-2008 23:52

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Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 739875)
Thanks so much lilstogi. Thats what I was hoping for so much after we weren't picked in the first round. Unfortunately I knew no matter how many we hurdled with the alliance we had there was no way we could win, especially with them not playing any defense on you guys.

I definitely think us with you and the beast would have been unstoppable. As far as a pure hurdler, I still stand by the fact that we are one of the best in the world. Now our hybrid on the other hand is a different story.

Definitely can't wait until that happens. And hell yea, I totally agree that with a little more driver practice that you guys would be one of the best in the world. Hope you come up to Trenton next year. We could tear up the field together:cool:

smurfgirl 20-04-2008 23:56

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Originally Posted by Jacob L (Post 739770)
When 1024's representative told that little story about how 177 picked them at the Connecticut Regional two years ago even though they had a low ranking, I got a strong sense of deja vu. This is because two years ago, on Galileo, we were ranked in the 60s going into the alliance selections and we did not think we were going to be picked. Out of nowhere, 177 picked us as their second alliance partner, and together with 1126, we won Galileo and advanced to Einstein. Sound familiar? I just though I had to share that one.

Thanks for your story. There are so many great teams like 177 who pass on the little lessons in FIRST, 177 just happened to be the one to pass the idea of good scouting on to our team. They are a great people, and they sure know a lot about their scouting and their defense. There was more to my story and our history with 177 (yeah, I was 1124's alliance captain- easy to get us mixed up with 1024, huh?) - last year we were both on Newton and we played each other in the finals. As you can guess, it was the other alliance that won. I invited their team to play with us rather than against us this year, hopefully to take Einstein again, but I wanted to do this in public as well. Unfortunately, I like to talk a lot, and our team was already making faces at me from the front row and trying to get me to shut up. (-:

Uberbots 21-04-2008 00:52

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Originally Posted by smurfgirl (Post 739901)
Thanks for your story. There are so many great teams like 177 who pass on the little lessons in FIRST, 177 just happened to be the one to pass the idea of good scouting on to our team. They are a great people, and they sure know a lot about their scouting and their defense. There was more to my story and our history with 177 (yeah, I was 1124's alliance captain- easy to get us mixed up with 1024, huh?) - last year we were both on Newton and we played each other in the finals. As you can guess, it was the other alliance that won. I invited their team to play with us rather than against us this year, hopefully to take Einstein again, but I wanted to do this in public as well. Unfortunately, I like to talk a lot, and our team was already making faces at me from the front row and trying to get me to shut up. (-:

Hey, at least your speech got you an andymark hat

Qbranch 21-04-2008 07:56

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Does anyone know where I can get a recording of the presentation of the Rockwell Automation award? I couldn't hear what they were saying about my software over the robot running... :o

-q

Mr MOE 21-04-2008 08:11

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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 739632)
Congrats to all teams!

To 365 thanks for the amazing defensive strategy you came up with for our qualifying match with you, that was a ton of fun to execute!

See you all in 09!

Thanks so much to Team 190 and 177 for helping us think outside the box. Team 190, you guys have an amazing robot. I'm glad we could collectively come up with an innovative way to utilize it.

Qualification match alliance of 1124, 357, and 171 (match 88, I believe), thanks for forming what we considered such a great alliance that we needed extra brainpower to come up with outside-the-box strategies to try to beat you. Uberbots 1124 - you guys have an awesome bot. Very scary!

Mr MOE 21-04-2008 08:16

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Originally Posted by KF987 (Post 739780)
Team 987 would like to thank our partners 365 and 842.

We couldnt have asked for better alliance partners!

MOE had an awsome bot this year, and they put on quite a show on archimedes during the eliminations. We loved working with you guys, your an awsome team! Hopefully we convinced you to come out to Las Vegas next year...

842 played insane defense against us in Las Vegas, and we were glad to have you on our alliance. You shut down alot of bots.Congrats on winning Chairmans award as well!

See you next year!

-Keaton

Thanks to the High Rollers for selecting us for eliminations. We played some great matches and complimented each other very well. Your bot and drive team is amazing!

Also glad to share an alliance with the Championship Chairman's winner. Congratulations on getting "The Big One."

It was great to have all of our alliance teams in the stands in the same area cheering together. Even in the Georgia Dome, we made alot of noise!

Congrats to our Archimedes Champions 1124-1024-177. When we looked over all the alliances in Archimedes, we said that yours was the one to beat to get on Einstein. Great job! Thanks for representing our division well.

Danny McC 21-04-2008 09:43

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I had a great time in Archimedes this year. Our first year in the division was our best year in Atlanta to date. Our only loss was an unfortunate one that could not have been avoided. The tie we had was our fault because we our elevator would not go down. Thank you for 555 and 386 for being on an alliance with us. You guys were great and I would love to work with you again. Usually when people get beat they are upset but I was not. I figured, you know, we only lost one match this year and won 5. Usually in the past is is the other way around. Thanks to all our qulifacation partners who greatly helped with this record. Especially 2024, 365, and 1124 just because you were three teams I really wanted to work with. See you all next year at regionals or championships. Or possibly even off seasons depending on which ones you do. I know for sure that I will see Moe. Also, thank you to whoever returned my bag with the beads to our pits Saturday morning. We looked for them all day Friday and they were there Saturday so that started my day off right.

millerm277 21-04-2008 15:02

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Originally Posted by Luckyfish05 (Post 739706)
Big shout out to team 201, and 41! Thanks for partnering with us, you both were awesome partners and we almost pulled it out! We can't wait to see you next year.

Thanks for picking us, and thanks 201 for being a great partner. Those were great matches. Also, I'd like to thank the opposing alliance (27,93, and 525) for playing the matches cleanly.

Uberbots 21-04-2008 15:15

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Originally Posted by Mr MOE (Post 740029)
Qualification match alliance of 1124, 357, and 171 (match 88, I believe), thanks for forming what we considered such a great alliance that we needed extra brainpower to come up with outside-the-box strategies to try to beat you. Uberbots 1124 - you guys have an awesome bot. Very scary!

We knew we were going to lose that one... oh well. We had an idea that 190 was going to use their arm to upset us and get in the way, and that you and 177 were going the be the scorebots.
im actually very surprised that 190 didn't get any impeding penalties... they sat there the whole match, and got a 'signal to pass' many times without them moving at all.

George A. 21-04-2008 15:21

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Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 740327)
We knew we were going to lose that one... oh well. We had an idea that 190 was going to use their arm to upset us and get in the way, and that you and 177 were going the be the scorebots.
im actually very surprised that 190 didn't get any impeding penalties... they sat there the whole match, and got a 'signal to pass' many times without them moving at all.

I was announcing that match, and I was wondering the same thing, until I talked to the refs and they told me there was a lane around 190 almost the entire match, so the bump to pass rule wasn't needed.

Alex Dinsmoor 21-04-2008 15:39

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Originally Posted by millerm277 (Post 740319)
Thanks for picking us, and thanks 201 for being a great partner. Those were great matches. Also, I'd like to thank the opposing alliance (27,93, and 525) for playing the matches cleanly.

You guys were amazing out there, we couldn't have done it without you!

And those were some intense matches, if we would have gotten 1 more line in hybrid we could have won it. :mad: But that was a really good alliance

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Originally Posted by Qbranch (Post 740020)
Does anyone know where I can get a recording of the presentation of the Rockwell Automation award? I couldn't hear what they were saying about my software over the robot running... :o

-q

What did your controller do? It was hard to follow what they said, but it sounded really amazing.

Mr MOE 21-04-2008 15:48

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Originally Posted by George A. (Post 740336)
I was announcing that match, and I was wondering the same thing, until I talked to the refs and they told me there was a lane around 190 almost the entire match, so the bump to pass rule wasn't needed.

That's what we hoped, but we were not sure if the refs would see it that way. It was risky, but we thought we needed to try it. With 171, 357, and 1124, all solid bots and each a regional winner.

Nuttyman54 21-04-2008 15:59

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Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 740327)
im actually very surprised that 190 didn't get any impeding penalties... they sat there the whole match, and got a 'signal to pass' many times without them moving at all.

The entire point of the strategy was that there would always be at least one clear path around our robot, but often the only way through was under our arm, making it very hard for the opposing bots to hurdle. Whether or not there was actually a clear lane under our arm at all times was hard to tell from the stands, but I never saw more than a few seconds go by without a clear lane one one side or another. When we were discussing this with MOE and the Bobcats, we expressed concerns about penalties and we decided that we would give it a one-penalty grace period: 190 would continue to be a nuisance until they saw a penalty called, at which point we would cut out and go to a backup strategy.

It's really not a very effective strategy as it only works moderately well and really only against arm robots. It was a nice one-time play that turned a few heads, and we had fun with it. We tried it again in our last match of the day, but to much less effect.

George A. 21-04-2008 16:01

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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 740382)
The entire point of the strategy was that there would always be at least one clear path around our robot, but often the only way through was under our arm, making it very hard for the opposing bots to hurdle. Whether or not there was actually a clear lane under our arm at all times was hard to tell from the stands, but I never saw more than 6 seconds go by without a clear lane one one side or another. When we were discussing this with MOE and the Bobcats, we expressed concerns about penalties and we decided that we would give it a one-penalty grace period: 190 would continue to be a nuisance until they saw a penalty called, at which point we would cut out and go to a backup strategy.

It's really not a very effective strategy as it only works moderately well and really only against arm robots. It was a nice one-time play that turned a few heads, and we had fun with it. We tried it again in our last match of the day, but to much less effect.


Also as the refs went over at the drivers meeting, it wouldn't be considered interference with a hurdle since 190 was already positioned, and the hurdling teams would be the one initiating the contact.

If 190 had been turning their arm to block, or kept moving around it would've been a different story. But as it stood, it was a perfectly legal, and in my opinion brilliant strategy.

Uberbots 21-04-2008 16:44

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Originally Posted by George A. (Post 740385)
If 190 had been turning their arm to block, or kept moving around it would've been a different story. But as it stood, it was a perfectly legal, and in my opinion brilliant strategy.

Absolutely.

come to think of it, we could have countered it and drawn in the penalty by having one of our robots blocking the lane of travel around 190, and having another one of our robots bumping 190, therefore giving them penalties until they moved.

very tricky strategy gompei... we actually had something similar planned for 1114 if we had made it to the finals. (stupid auto switch)

Peter Matteson 21-04-2008 16:51

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Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 740420)
Absolutely.

come to think of it, we could have countered it and drawn in the penalty by having one of our robots blocking the lane of travel around 190, and having another one of our robots bumping 190, therefore giving them penalties until they moved.

Not quite. A robot of your own alliance counts as an open lane. Good thought though.

Thanks again 1124 for picking us, it's always fun to work with you.

1024 hope to see you again at IRI.

Pete

Akash Rastogi 21-04-2008 18:15

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Originally Posted by Uberbots (Post 740420)
Absolutely.

come to think of it, we could have countered it and drawn in the penalty by having one of our robots blocking the lane of travel around 190, and having another one of our robots bumping 190, therefore giving them penalties until they moved.

very tricky strategy gompei... we actually had something similar planned for 1114 if we had made it to the finals. (stupid auto switch)

I friggin knew that either 190 or 1771 would be getting the Xerox Creativity award. The only difference between the two robots was that 1771 could be used for more effective hurdling while 190's could be fun as hell to play with:cool:

In my mind, 190 owns the field every year.

Qbranch 21-04-2008 18:59

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Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor (Post 740360)
What did your controller do? It was hard to follow what they said, but it sounded really amazing.

Well, now that all that's left is IRI, no worries about revealing any secrets, espeically since with the new control system you wouldn't have to be sneaky anymore anyhow to get your cycle times low enough and update rates high enough.

I'll go kinda shallow the first go-around here and if you all still want to know more I'll post again.

The basis of our robot's autonomous control system is a pair of super duper PWM's running at 98.72Hz, 16-bit resolution. On top of that, for both sides, is a velocity PID. The velocity PID on both sides gets its commands passed down from a heading control system that sits atop of that.

The heading control system gets it's velocity value (velocity is the language of this system if you couldn't tell yet) based on a cruise/accel/decel control loop with lookahead to the next instruction based on current velocity and desired velocity for the next instruction.

Atop of this sits the straightline motion/arc interpolation module. Straightline motion is, er, straightforward: set a distance, a speed limit, and a heading and away she goes.

Arc interpolation is much more interesting, and much more entertaining to watch. As far as writing the autonomous script goes, it's easy to set up: specify the start angle, end angle, radius, and speed limit. The software then uses a calculus-derived function to figure out where the left (or right if we're making a right turn) tire should be in relation to the current angle of the robot to generate a circular turn of the specified radius. We always used constant radius turns in competition, but the system is also capable of handling formulaic continuously variable radii as well... example, make a french curve. At boilermaker we tested the arc interpolator to be accurate to about +/-2" on an 8' in diameter turn from zero to 180 degrees. Pretty good considering scrub and all.

On top of this layer sits the supervisory control layer which watches for sensor input failures and shuts off the autonomous if necessary. An error message is displayed on the rear data center in this event. (example: nOEn: no encoder data).

Finally, on top of this is the script executor. It runs the show, and directs the rest of the algorithm from a high level to do whatever you want it to do.

That's the drivetrain.

Since it's not as fancy as the drivetrain, I'll just gloss the knockoff bar operation. It uses a couple sensors and a state machine to run a pair of vex motors that put it up or down.

The robo coach software just acts as an input to run both the supervisory drivetrain software and direct it as to which lane it should be going to, and instructs the knockdown bar state machine as to what it should be doing.

Just let me know if you have any further questions. For now, my fingers could use a rest. :o

-q

p.s. Don't forget to celebrate International Creativity and Innovation Week!

Protronie 21-04-2008 21:09

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Originally Posted by Qbranch (Post 740540)
l
Just let me know if you have any further questions. For now, my fingers could use a rest. :o

-q

p.s. Don't forget to celebrate International Creativity and Innovation Week!

Ummmm :confused:
Just one question.... what was all that again... in english?
So thats what you got the award for... and I thought it was for just the fancy speedo on the back. :ahh:
After re-reading your description again... I think instead of a award they should have just given you a job! :D

Alex Dinsmoor 21-04-2008 21:17

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Originally Posted by Protronie (Post 740656)
Ummmm :confused:
Just one question.... what was all that again... in english?
So thats what you got the award for... and I thought it was for just the fancy speedo on the back. :ahh:
After re-reading your description again... I think instead of a award they should have just given you a job! :D

Speaking about jobs where are you going to college and what are you majoring in Alex?

Eric O 21-04-2008 21:19

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I want to thank 1124 and 1024 for inviting us to be on their alliance. Both of your teams were amazing and your automodes were downright scary.

1124: We were really hoping to be your last pick in Hartford and you passed us up. While it was obviously crushing to us to not be picked, I knew it was the correct decision as we had not shown any capabilities during the qualifications. Although you may not have thought about it this way, but had you picked us, and we went onto win, we would not have had the motivation to redesign our claw (which it severely needed) and therefore not been there for you to pick on Archimedes. It was great to work with you this year after battling it out on Newton last year. You guys have a great team that has a bright future, and if you keep working the way you have the past few years, you will get that Championship you deserve.

1024: I had watched a couple of your matches on video before the championship, and though you won your 3 regionals due to you automode. Man, I could not have been more wrong! You true domination of the field was outstanding. During a match I usually pay close attention to our bot in case there is something we can do better next match, but every time I scanned across the rest of the field, there you were, hurdling, and hurdling more. I will still don’t understand why your two poles of a gripper worked so well, but it does. Your drivers were amazing, maneuvering through all the defense and traffic jams, and never missing a hurdle as many shooters did.

The thing I liked most about our alliance was that we won and lost as a team. When all of us were in tact we were outstanding. When there was one robot caught up or broken in a match, the others picked up the slack and got the needed hurdles. The matches we lost were when multiple robots had problems. It was disappointing that in the final matches all 3 of us had issues, because I know we could have taken the Curie alliance and would have loved to have a stab at Galileo. When getting to Einstein there is a lot of luck, and this year it just didn’t roll our way.

To 987, 365, and 842. You guys were an amazing alliance and we were terrified to face you.

987: You guys built another amazing robot this year. During selections I was going back and forth on who I would rather have been selected by, you or 1124, because both of you had such good first picks. It would have been awesome to work with you again, but apparently you didn’t want us ;) .

365: It was fun to play with you guys and take down 1124 in their last match. You guys built a great machine this year which was fun to play with and scary to play against. I think you had one of the best pick-ups through defense in our division.

Overall 177 had a great time playing in Archimedes.

Uberbots 21-04-2008 22:20

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in response to Eric O:

Actually, we wanted to pick you guys in Hartford... you and 716 were equally matched on our list (maybe actually above), but 175's data pushed 716 above you guys when they made the final decision. Everybody in the stands thought we were going to pick you guys, and it kind of came to a surprise to us when Ellen didn't. However, if it really motivated you to create that awesome roller claw, then i guess it was for a reason.

Good job this year 177, 3 years on Einstein is no easy feat. And that takedown in match 88 was very, very well played. We knew we had that match lost the moment we saw 177 paired with 365... and we knew 190 was going to do some sort of defense but hadn't planned on the 'sacrificial' method.

smurfgirl 21-04-2008 22:30

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Originally Posted by Eric O (Post 740669)
I want to thank 1124 and 1024 for inviting us to be on their alliance. Both of your teams were amazing and your automodes were downright scary.

1124: We were really hoping to be your last pick in Hartford and you passed us up. While it was obviously crushing to us to not be picked, I knew it was the correct decision as we had not shown any capabilities during the qualifications. Although you may not have thought about it this way, but had you picked us, and we went onto win, we would not have had the motivation to redesign our claw (which it severely needed) and therefore not been there for you to pick on Archimedes. It was great to work with you this year after battling it out on Newton last year. You guys have a great team that has a bright future, and if you keep working the way you have the past few years, you will get that Championship you deserve.

I'm really glad that we got to work with you again this year. Our history goes back a long way, and between being picked by you at CT in 2006, and then playing against you on Newton in 2007, it was time for us to pick you on Archimedes in 2008. I was actually planning to pick you as our 3rd partner in CT this year, but we already knew that we were planning to work with 175, and our teams decided on a "pick list" together. I was convinced that 176 was going to snag your team as their 3rd partner before selections got back to alliance 1, and 716 was higher on our combined list than you anyway... boy did that throw a monkey wrench into the plans. As great as it was to work with the people on 716, I was still a little bit sad that your team didn't make it to eliminations at all. At least, in retrospect, it ended up motivating you. It was great to work with you again. Your strategies are mind-boggling, really. The whole offensive robot playing defense that you beat us with last year definitely helped our alliance to win in the finals. And that last qualifying match (88?)... again, an amazing strategy which I did not see coming. You always have a well-rounded robot, and you bring the most interested and unexpected things to the field. I was hoping that our alliance could at least make it to the finals on Einstein, but I don't think we were quite prepared for that, and we faced some downright weird scenarios on the field. Either way, it was a lot of fun to play with you, and I'm glad we made it as far as we did.

Brian Beatty 21-04-2008 22:49

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As the coach on 71, I would like to thank 11 for picking us as the number 1 pick on Archimedes. Things were looking up when we got 2166 which was top on both our depth charts. Many people don't realize 2166 is one of the teams that 1114 mentors and has very silimlar drive systems; great autonomous, fast, tough defense. I did not know much about your team before but after meeting your mentors and students and running a couple of matches together, I saw a well run team and understand how you got to be #1 seed.

We had a great time with you guys but it was too short. We definitely had enough horsepower to go farther. Unfortunately, we (71) had two uncharacteristic bad rounds in a row; an arm that broke off and a human miscue in hybrid ended the run. At that level of competition, you have to execute perfectly to win. I hope we get a chance in the future to run again with you and do a better job of it. Thanks again for the ride.

Are you applying for IRI? I hope so.

Brian Beatty

Gmitevski 21-04-2008 23:01

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As base driver for team 201 I would like to thank teams 292 and 41 for selecting us based on our defenseive abilities. It was a lot of fun working with you guys and even though we couldn't pull of the upset we gave them a run for their money. I can honestly say that our the QF was the most exciting QF I have seen or been a part of for that matter.

Next I would like to say congrats to teams 1124, 1024, and 177 for winning the division. You guys had a great alliance and right when the selections ended I had a feeling that you would be the alliance to make it to the finals.

Next I want to thank our opponents 27, 525, and 93. You guys had a great team and it was very fun playing against you guys even though we couldn't pull off the upset.

27-I can honestly say that you were my favorite robot and I liked you design very much. Its unfortunate that you guys had to go out like that with problems with your robot.

Sadly this was my Senior year on team 201 and I am off to college next year so I want to wish everyone the best of luck with FIRST in their years to come.

Akash Rastogi 21-04-2008 23:16

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I have to say, 201's alliance is by far one of the best examples of teamwork that I have ever seen in my life.. not just in FIRST. That took a tremendous amount of leadership to face 525's alliance but you guys did totally pwn. In all honesty, I wanted to give you guys an award that said something like "PInnacle of Teamwork Award"

You guys rocked and we hope to see you again next year.

Akash Rastogi 21-04-2008 23:56

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Originally Posted by Brian Beatty (Post 740777)
As the coach on 71, I would like to thank 11 for picking us as the number 1 pick on Archimedes. Things were looking up when we got 2166 which was top on both our depth charts. Many people don't realize 2166 is one of the teams that 1114 mentors and has very silimlar drive systems; great autonomous, fast, tough defense. I did not know much about your team before but after meeting your mentors and students and running a couple of matches together, I saw a well run team and understand how you got to be #1 seed.

We had a great time with you guys but it was too short. We definitely had enough horsepower to go farther. Unfortunately, we (71) had two uncharacteristic bad rounds in a row; an arm that broke off and a human miscue in hybrid ended the run. At that level of competition, you have to execute perfectly to win. I hope we get a chance in the future to run again with you and do a better job of it. Thanks again for the ride.

Are you applying for IRI? I hope so.

Brian Beatty


Thank you to you guys too. It was an amazing time running with the BEAST.:cool:

I actually don't know if we are going to IRI. I dont think we ever have gone but it sounds awesome. We usually go to PARC and Monty Madness and Brunswick Eruption.

Jacob L 22-04-2008 00:20

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Originally Posted by lilstogi11 (Post 740805)
I have to say, 201's alliance is by far one of the best examples of teamwork that I have ever seen in my life.. not just in FIRST. That took a tremendous amount of leadership to face 525's alliance but you guys did totally pwn. In all honesty, I wanted to give you guys an award that said something like "PInnacle of Teamwork Award"

You guys rocked and we hope to see you again next year.

Thank you so much! Our drive team greatly appreciates the compliment, I'm sure. Seriously the most intense quarterfinal I've ever seen in my life.

Ellen of 1124, I apologize for that inaccurate bit of information regarding that 177 story. I guess I was too excited about getting picked that I didn't realize who was talking down there!:D

Like Gordo, I'm off to college too next year. But the FEDS will be back next year, this I can assure you.:cool:

Akash Rastogi 22-04-2008 00:37

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Originally Posted by Jacob L (Post 740853)
Thank you so much! Our drive team greatly appreciates the compliment, I'm sure. Seriously the most intense quarterfinal I've ever seen in my life.

Ellen of 1124, I apologize for that inaccurate bit of information regarding that 177 story. I guess I was too excited about getting picked that I didn't realize who was talking down there!:D

Like Gordo, I'm off to college too next year. But the FEDS will be back next year, this I can assure you.:cool:

No problem, "great teams with great accomplishments deserve to be recognized" is what MORT always says.

Bruce Newendorp 22-04-2008 00:44

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On behalf of the Team 525 Swartdogs, I want to thank all the teams we were allied with during our qualifying matches. There were several really great matches against tough opponents where we succeeded together.

Thanks to Team 27 RUSH for joining us in the Archimedes eliminations. Your hybrid mode and hurdling ability were awesome. Congratulations on receiving the Motorola Quality Award.
We were proud to wear the buttons in memory of John Lafata. I'm sure he is missed.
We were very happy to be able to ask Team 93 N.E.W. Apple Corps to join us on Saturday afternoon. We worked well together in Minnesota so we knew we would here also.
Our alliance had some exciting close matches through the quarter and semi finals but unfortunately we could not get enough points scored to go to the finals.
Congratulations to 1124, 1024, & 177. You performed well on Einstein.

Thanks also to the volunteer crew and referees on the Archimedes field and in the pits. You put in a lot of effort to provide a great experience for the teams and we truly appreciate what you do.

I along with the rest of the Swartdogs are looking forward to next year and the challenges we will encounter.

ktbcantrell 22-04-2008 00:54

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Thanks you to ARCHIMEDES and everyone who supported our TRULY SUCKY ROBOT .. thanks to MORT We also would have loved to have had the opportunity to work with your team in the Georgia Dome... However, driving against you and the entire # 1 alliance 71, 11, 2166 was immensely fun aswell... (I am the base driver for 1771) I figured that if I could maneuver enough hurdles/points out of our robot that we would have had a good chance to cause and upset for the match. I hope those two Quarter final matches will show up on thebluealliance.net some time ... They were some amazing matches in my opinion. Very fun. :cool:

Unfortunately this was my last year of eligibility for driving the robot :p (graduating senior) Ending the season in the quarter finals of nationals was really fun though :D

I am looking forward to next year’s challenge and all our off season excitement and the eventual Georgia Dome 2009 showdown. I guess I will have to train a new driver to take my place … MENTOR FTW … lol
:D :D

Danny McC 22-04-2008 07:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ktbcantrell (Post 740872)
Thanks you to ARCHIMEDES and everyone who supported our TRULY SUCKY ROBOT .. thanks to MORT We also would have loved to have had the opportunity to work with your team in the Georgia Dome... However, driving against you and the entire # 1 alliance 71, 11, 2166 was immensely fun aswell... (I am the base driver for 1771) I figured that if I could maneuver enough hurdles/points out of our robot that we would have had a good chance to cause and upset for the match. I hope those two Quarter final matches will show up on thebluealliance.net some time ... They were some amazing matches in my opinion. Very fun. :cool:

Unfortunately this was my last year of eligibility for driving the robot :p (graduating senior) Ending the season in the quarter finals of nationals was really fun though :D

I am looking forward to next year’s challenge and all our off season excitement and the eventual Georgia Dome 2009 showdown. I guess I will have to train a new driver to take my place … MENTOR FTW … lol
:D :D

You can still drive next year. If you technically read the rules there is an age limit which is 19.

GaryVoshol 22-04-2008 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny McC (Post 740916)
You can still drive next year. If you technically read the rules there is an age limit which is 19.

Which rule would that be? Driver and HP/RoboCoach are limited to "pre-college students".
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7.2 Definitions
TEAM: Four representatives from a registered FIRST Robotics Competition team that interact with
their robot and their ALLIANCE partners to play FIRST Overdrive. The positions on the TEAM
include:
COACH: A student or adult mentor designated as the team advisor during the MATCH and
identified as the person wearing a "COACH" pin or button. There is one COACH per TEAM.
DRIVER: A pre-college student team member responsible for operating and controlling the
ROBOT. There are two DRIVERS per TEAM.
ROBOCOACH: A pre-college student team member designated as the only team member
permitted to provide external stimuli to the ROBOT from either of the two ALLIANCE
ROBOCOACH STATIONS. There is one ROBOCOACH per TEAM.


ktbcantrell 22-04-2008 10:05

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Yeah... i wish i could still be eligable driving the robot in the competitions next year but the rules say pre-college student... But, dont worry 1771 will show up to competition with some fresh new divers come '09.

wendymom 22-04-2008 10:57

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I think I may have finally recovered enough to type.

Thanks to all the really great teams we met and played with this year. I wish I had more time in the pits but it was fun to meet Smurfgirl, Qbranch and the FRO. Thanks for my chocolates Warrior Pride.

Big CONGRATS to MIKE T WALKER and the Archimedes crew for running the field so well that they were chosen to run Einstein. Now if they could only run the closing ceremonies it might run on time.

Thanks to the FEDs for putting our piggy on the robot. It was fun to watch.
I'm sure I missing alot but thats all I can think of right now.

thefro526 22-04-2008 13:42

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Archimedes was super fun this year even for teams who got knocked out like us. I'd like to thank any teams who were partnered with us throughout the day. And a special thanks to 386 for working with us and to 555 for helping us as well (hint to 555, don't forget to tell the alliance captain that your bot is in the crate). Also sorry to anyone who I said I would meet up with, I was plagued with a Fever and Throat issues throughout the weekend and really didn't have much energy to do anything except go out to matches. Anyone try to be an alliance captain when you're half awake, it's not one of my fonder memories of FIRST. LOL

ttldomination 22-04-2008 14:56

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This was my first time at world.

I had a great time at Archimedes. Much better than going to school....:D

Alex Dinsmoor 22-04-2008 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wendymom (Post 741008)
Thanks to the FEDs for putting our piggy on the robot. It was fun to watch.
I'm sure I missing alot but thats all I can think of right now.

Hey no problem, it was really cool to have it on the robot. I think it actually made us better on the field. We need another one for next years robot when the time comes around.

Qbranch 24-04-2008 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wendymom (Post 741008)
I think I may have finally recovered enough to type.

Thanks to all the really great teams we met and played with this year. I wish I had more time in the pits but it was fun to meet Smurfgirl, Qbranch and the FRO. Thanks for my chocolates Warrior Pride.

Big CONGRATS to MIKE T WALKER and the Archimedes crew for running the field so well that they were chosen to run Einstein. Now if they could only run the closing ceremonies it might run on time.

Thanks to the FEDs for putting our piggy on the robot. It was fun to watch.
I'm sure I missing alot but thats all I can think of right now.

Nice to meet you too Wendymom. And, I'm glad to hear you all did get your team award from us.

Sorry we couldn't present it personally... we went by your pits once when we distributed the other awards... nobody was there.

Then we got into the finals, and I guess we never had a chance to come by and find you guys in your pits again. :o

Congratulations on being Team 1024's Most Spirited Team award recipient!

OINK OINK BOOM! :D

-q

Qbranch 24-04-2008 16:49

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FIRST off, sorry about the double post. :o

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protronie (Post 740656)
Ummmm
Just one question.... what was all that again... in english?
So thats what you got the award for... and I thought it was for just the fancy speedo on the back.
After re-reading your description again... I think instead of a award they should have just given you a job!

Protronie, if you want the really basic explanation, it made the robot drive really good without me bothering it. :D

On the whole job thing... well I did get an offer from Allison Transmission yesterday to give a 30 minute presentation of my control system as well as for a job... :yikes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor (Post 740668)
Speaking about jobs where are you going to college and what are you majoring in Alex?

I'm going to the University of Illionis at Urbana-Champaign (anybody else?) and majoring in Electrical Engineering.

...Amazing how far you can get with some software that makes a robot do some tricks for 15 seconds... ;)

Thanks everybody for a great season, and thanks to 1024 for building a great machine... without the rest of the robot all my software would have done is spin some motors real nice. :o

-q

smurfgirl 24-04-2008 16:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 741095)
Also sorry to anyone who I said I would meet up with, I was plagued with a Fever and Throat issues throughout the weekend and really didn't have much energy to do anything except go out to matches. Anyone try to be an alliance captain when you're half awake, it's not one of my fonder memories of FIRST. LOL


Wow... I know how you feel on that one. I was blessed with a sore throat Tuesday morning, so I stayed home from school to keep everyone else on the team healthy and recover a bit before we left Wednesday. I had a swollen throat for basically all of the competition, and it left me with a very scratchy voice that was very audible. Try being a coach and an alliance captain with no voice... My team members were great though, I had a lot of fun overall, and I did regain most of my voice by alliance selections. Somehow multiple key people on my team manage to get sick during every competition we go to, and recover just around when it ends. :rolleyes:

Akash Rastogi 24-04-2008 18:54

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Hope to see and work with a lot more of you next year. Please come to MORT's home at the NJ regional. It is one of the best regionals in FIRST and more people should come and enjoy it. You will meet amazing teams like 103, 25, 75, and so many more and I just want to see everyone again next year.:)

davidmedeiros 24-04-2008 20:49

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Ahh I've finally had the time to get back to this thread...

WOW That was an amazing time at Championships.
I was a runner so I was dead tired half of the time, but all of the people I got to meet were great!
Thanks to the High Rollers, 987, for the opportunity you guys gave us in the alliance selection, and thanks to MOE, 365, for being our other alliance partners! I'd say we did very well though we lost, it was an awesome time!
Congrats to 1124, 1024 and 177. It was a well deserved win!

Hopefully I'll have the privilege of seeing you all next year at Nationals!

Alex Dinsmoor 24-04-2008 21:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbranch (Post 742258)
]
I'm going to the University of Illionis at Urbana-Champaign (anybody else?) and majoring in Electrical Engineering.

...Amazing how far you can get with some software that makes a robot do some tricks for 15 seconds... ;)
-q

That's cool, and for a code like yours it's easy to see how far it could take you. Have fun at college next year!

Uberbots 24-04-2008 23:11

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Thats a pretty fancy system you have in there q. id like to see the formula you used in the curve interpolation- it sounds pretty neat (=

we used essentially the same thing for our autonomous control, with the PID speed controllers and the heading system. I guess the only difference is that we didnt use an interpolator for the arcs (really only a dead-reckoning thing on the turns), and our driving was ultrasonic based rather than encoder based.

zivo123 25-04-2008 18:14

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hey everyone!
i wanted to tell you all that our team had a great time playin with you on archimedes :)
weve learned a lot playing with you and hopefully we will come improved next year instead of tipping over four times..

anyway, i need your help- i need to contact anyone from team 1474, however, their team has no updated website and none of them have accounts on cheifdelphi...
so i was wondering if maybe someone here has a way of contacting any student of the team?
Thanks a lot, Ziv.

Alex Dinsmoor 26-04-2008 15:09

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Contact Nancy O., she was making a list of student emails from every team, she may have one from team 1474. Hope you can find one!

zivo123 26-04-2008 17:18

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Thanks!

Mike Schreiber 26-04-2008 18:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ktbcantrell (Post 740979)
Yeah... i wish i could still be eligable driving the robot in the competitions next year but the rules say pre-college student... But, dont worry 1771 will show up to competition with some fresh new divers come '09.

Can't you just skip college, go the year after next, then you're still a pre-college student and can still drive...just a thought, besides which do you think you'll learn more from FIRST or college? haha

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gmitevski (Post 740789)
Next I want to thank our opponents 27, 525, and 93. You guys had a great team and it was very fun playing against you guys even though we couldn't pull off the upset.

27-I can honestly say that you were my favorite robot and I liked you design very much. Its unfortunate that you guys had to go out like that with problems with your robot.

Thanks! You guys scared the crap out of me in the quarter finals, I thought you had us in that tied match by penalties...guess we lucked out :D. You were high on our list and definitely had a solid robot...you're just never left for us to pair up with. I remember the same thing happening in '06 when you guys made it to Einstein by 1 point in the third match against us in Galileo:(.

Thank you to 525 for picking us, and to 93 for being awesome as well. We made a good run.

Congrats to our division champs, and of course to the SimChicken Wranglers, who we all knew were going to take it after week 1...

On a personal note, Q it was pretty sweet talking to you, your pretty amazing at what you do, and even better at explaining it, congrats to you and your team on the award.

Alex Dinsmoor 26-04-2008 21:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ICanCountTo19 (Post 743135)
Thanks! You guys scared the crap out of me in the quarter finals, I thought you had us in that tied match by penalties...guess we lucked out :D. You were high on our list and definitely had a solid robot...you're just never left for us to pair up with. I remember the same thing happening in '06 when you guys made it to Einstein by 1 point in the third match against us in Galileo:(.

Haha, that was a very tense 4 matches I predicted you guys beating us but I hoped it wouldn't go that way. I keep watching the videos and looking at "Oh, if I did this different we could've won" and stuff like that.

As you guys know most of our team liked your robot more than our own (I mean how can you not like your robot, it was amazing), and we were happy to see you guys do good at GLR and Archimedes.

Sean Schuff 26-04-2008 21:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Newendorp (Post 740865)
We were very happy to be able to ask Team 93 N.E.W. Apple Corps to join us on Saturday afternoon. We worked well together in Minnesota so we knew we would here also.

Thanks Bruce!! Once we saw 525 paired up with 27 we were all hoping you would consider us to round out your alliance. Once you picked us we thought we had the "team to beat" going into elims. I guess it just wasn't to be.

You've got a great team in the SwartDogs and it was fantastic getting to know and work (play!) with your team. We all look forward to our paths crossing again in the future.

Thanks again for a great season!!

Sean

Carol 28-04-2008 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ICanCountTo19 (Post 743135)
Can't you just skip college, go the year after next, then you're still a pre-college student and can still drive...just a thought, besides which do you think you'll learn more from FIRST or college? haha
.

I'm not sure where it is specified, but I'm fairly certain that the definition of a pre-college student is one who has not graduated high school.

Alex Dinsmoor 28-04-2008 14:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carol (Post 743624)
I'm not sure where it is specified, but I'm fairly certain that the definition of a pre-college student is one who has not graduated high school.

You could just not graduate year after year, but it may not be worth it...

smurfgirl 28-04-2008 16:04

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How long are you guys going to keep this thread alive? This just enforces the fact that Archimedes officially had the most spirited and energetics group of people of all the divisions. (-:

Alex Dinsmoor 28-04-2008 18:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfgirl (Post 743690)
How long are you guys going to keep this thread alive? This just enforces the fact that Archimedes officially had the most spirited and energetics group of people of all the divisions. (-:

Is there a reason not to keep the thread alive? We just like to talk about archi related stuff a lot.

smurfgirl 17-05-2008 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor (Post 743734)
Is there a reason not to keep the thread alive? We just like to talk about archi related stuff a lot.

Of course not!


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