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EricH 11-04-2008 18:42

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cziggy343 (Post 735124)
who are definsive robots? im making a list... so far:

8 and 84

980. Lap/defense.

les chortos 11-04-2008 18:57

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
my prediction- there will not be a lapbot on Einstein this year

SSMike 11-04-2008 19:05

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les chortos (Post 735138)
my prediction- there will not be a lapbot on Einstein this year

No but there could be a robot that whose primary strength is not hurlding (i.e. 980 a defensive robot). However, I can see an alliance captain select a lap bot to complete an alliance. Think about it, there are only 2 balls per alliance, so if an alliance is already made up of two superb hurdlers, a lap bot may be useful for defense and lapping.

65_Xero_Huskie 11-04-2008 19:22

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les chortos (Post 735138)
my prediction- there will not be a lapbot on Einstein this year

I bet you there will be ;)
3 shooters is a good combo, however...
When the field gets deep like this, your going to HAVE to play defense if you want to win against 4 Amazing shooters.

Tottanka 11-04-2008 19:25

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 65_Xero_Huskie (Post 735151)
I bet you there will be ;)
3 shooters is a good combo, however...
When the field gets deep like this, your going to HAVE to play defense if you want to win against 4 Amazing shooters.

yea, it is going to be hard paying against 4 shooters...

cziggy343 11-04-2008 19:29

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
yeah... im gonna bank on there being a few defensive robots out there in the elims... otherwise... your alliance will need to completly outscore a team like 1114, and that is a tall order... if you have a defender... then you can at least slow down thier teammate and make it two on one... unless they have a defender riding up your butt;)

Coach Norm 11-04-2008 19:40

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Our team sees it this way: only two balls for an alliance. Three shooters have to share the balls.
The lap bot can move the ball around to help the shooters and interfere with the other teams shooters.
If the lap bot has autonomous with the ability to make a lap and knock off balls, that makes them a stong bot for an alliance. If this bot can knock off balls, then they can also knock off opposing teams balls at the end.
Of course, they should be able to stay out of the shooters way and not get penalties.

David Brinza 11-04-2008 19:50

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by les chortos (Post 735138)
my prediction- there will not be a lapbot on Einstein this year

You're probably right about a "pure lapbot".

Maybe a "utility-robot" with good hybrid mode, lapping, herding, and defensive tactics will figure in the Championship.

XaulZan11 11-04-2008 19:57

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Norm (Post 735160)
Our team sees it this way: only two balls for an alliance. Three shooters have to share the balls.
The lap bot can move the ball around to help the shooters and interfere with the other teams shooters.
If the lap bot has autonomous with the ability to make a lap and knock off balls, that makes them a stong bot for an alliance. If this bot can knock off balls, then they can also knock off opposing teams balls at the end.
Of course, they should be able to stay out of the shooters way and not get penalties.

I see what you are saying, but those good qualities that you mention a hurdler can have too. There are only a few number lap bots that are significantly faster than all other bots (ie 148, who can't knock down). So, by having a hurdling robot that can do just about everything a lap bot can do (good hybrid, knock off well, play defense, lap), they can also hurdle. I think that there will be 12 robots with hurdling capiblities on Einstein. While the 3rd may be doing laps, playing defense and knocking balls off, they are also a backup hurdler incase one team breaks. Also, if the alliances top or second best hurdler is getting a ton of defense, they can act as a decoy and allow the 3rd robot to handle the hurdling while they draw the defense away (although that strategy probably won't work for more than one match). Having three hurdles just gives the alliance more strategic options.

Guy Davidson 11-04-2008 19:58

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cziggy343 (Post 735124)
who are definsive robots? im making a list... so far:

8 and 84

From reading Travis Hoffman's posts about defense, I'd be willing to wager that 48 play some D as well. I guess any combination of 4's and 8's makes for some good defense :P (and 980)

les chortos 11-04-2008 20:00

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
a good hurdler can double as a lapbot if need be - a lapbot will never hurdle. In an absolute pinch that 1 extra hurdle the "lapbot" might have to make could win the match. 6 laps- 1 hurdle. - whats the most laps a bot has run this year. do the math. If I was choosing I would pick that 1 machine that can easily and quickly pickup a ball and hurdle .and do laps if need be-and/or run counter defense.(I think at this point - a good hybrid is a gimme- in other words they all must be good)

SamC 11-04-2008 20:04

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Heres a few stats on the teams in the Galileo division. COlumns are sortable (JavaScript must be enabled, I believe)

David Brinza 11-04-2008 20:10

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SamSofa330 (Post 735183)
Heres a few stats on the teams in the Galileo division.

For some reason, the numbers for 1114 stick out like a 6th grader in kindergarten...are we talking a super-offensive machine or what!!! They're on top of every category (except losses).

ParkerF 11-04-2008 20:23

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 735178)
There are only a few number lap bots that are significantly faster than all other bots (ie 148, who can't knock down).

Too bad the videos aren't available from Bayou for you to see. :rolleyes:

Galileo will be not only fun, but exciting, crazy, and just straight amazing. I'm very pleased to be in such a great division. I'm amazed by the strength that showed up here, and I just can't wait until Thursday. This being my rookie year at Atlanta, I don't think I could be more privileged. I hope to meet many of you at Championship. Just look for the short, blond 148 driver.

P.S.- Just noticed I was the 148th post. :D

MOE 11-04-2008 20:53

Re: Galileo Division 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Davidson (Post 735179)
From reading Travis Hoffman's posts about defense, I'd be willing to wager that 48 play some D as well. I guess any combination of 4's and 8's makes for some good defense :P (and 980)

Hellooooo from the NORTH EAST :D
I like the 8's thing, Seeeee Yaaaaa Sooooon
Good luck to all of the FIRST TEAMS
especially the teams in GALILEO what a HOOT this div. will be!!!!
oh yeah ???? OH YEAH !!!! :yikes:
MOE and TEAM 88


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