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You should do the same thing at IRI, i'm bringing a lap bot made for fun muahaha

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Our robot only goes 10 fps. in high gear... Probably shouldn’t bother :(

I'm already envious of whoever wins that trophy. That thing looks about a bonjillion times more awesome than the FIRST trophies :D

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I hate to be the one who brings rain on this (fast) parade, but I have a simple logistics issue.

Will teams who compete in this be able to pack their robots up afterwards if the pits are closing/closed?

Just wondering. I think this is an awesome idea, and just want to be sure by participating in this, that teams are not jeapordizing other important things. (Like shipping their robots home)
:)

But I'm sure you thought of that already right? ;)

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Elgin,

Good question. The management at Show Ready Events and Sargent Productions are aware of this challenge. For the 4 teams invited to participate (and if they accept), their robot crates will be transported over to the FIRST Finale so that they can unload their robots to participate and then re-crate the robots once the race is finished. Then, the crates will be taken back to join the other crates to start their journey home.

Who feels the need for speed?

... oh, and there is now a graphic on the performance wheel tread area. You'll have to stop by the AM booth to check this thing out. Did I mention that it spins?

Andy B.

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Well, I was reading your description and I was like...

"Ooh, chrom-y... yep, nice trophy, yep... IT SPINS??? :yikes: " then I saw Andy Baker as the poster... yep, figures. Leave it to a man who makes a living out of spinny things to make a trophy out of spinny things. :]

Kidding aside, AWESOME trophy, Andy!

Who knows? Maybe you all will deem our robot speedy enough to compete?

Also, are you allowing autonomous modes to run the drag or does there have to be a human operator? I don't think anyone can drive our robot as well as RALFF...

-q

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*orders new sprockets from Andy for atlanta....

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That is one sweet trophy

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Beautiful trophy!

I've always wondered why they call us gearheads, now I know....

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WOW! any chance for a webcast of it/video capture please =]
anyhow, if i knew about this trophy, i would have designed a speedy robot just for that!

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At 27 ft/s, I'd probably have to place my bet on Team 102, The Gearheads. :rolleyes:

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So Andy, how well do your omniwheels handle on asphalt at high speeds? :ahh:

I think FIRST Finale Asphalt Challenge could double as "extreme product testing":D

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How will you determine who's the fastest robot?
Also, what will the actual drag surface be? I imagine it's going to be on the road that runs through the park, but will they bring out carpet for it or will it be on the pavement?

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"extreme product testing"... yeah, I like that.

We can make more omni wheels.

Key volunteers on each field will be asked to determine who the 4 fastest robots are by Friday at lunch. By then, they will see practice matches and a couple of Q matches. I will collect names and then we (Mark or Nick or myself) make personal invites to those teams. Teams will need to let us know soon if they want to do this or not.

I am pretty sure that we are running on the pavement, without carpet. There will be alliance stations out there, power for the OI's, and some Mode Switches to help start things equally.

I can understand the concern for lack of carpet. If this is a problem for the invited teams, they can simply deny the invitation. This is simply a fun thing to do.

Andy B.

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I'm deffinitly going with the gearheads ftw on this one. team 102 has a robot our team affectionately named "Splungy," "Speedy," and "Speedy Gonzales."

Gearheads ftw:cool:

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I'll bet on 968/254. I believe their top speed is around 20 fps. and with six motors it doesn't take long to reach that speed :eek:

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Precision Guessworks Team 1646 would love to get a shot at that beautiful trophy but either way this race will be awesome and I hope to be present when it happens.

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27 ft/s? They must really "Rush" around the field :P

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

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Very punny.

That is a very sweet lookin' trophy right there. We were thinking of making some trophies for our school LAN tournament, and I'm liking the stacked gears. I'll have to keep that in mind.

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:cool: I think this award should go to the team it's named after :p LOL!!! but yes... 27fps is what our lil bot does... geared for 30fps but hey, we can't expect everything to go 100% :rolleyes: lol

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I have a feeling that this is going to come down to the same thing that wins real drag races, acceleration (and solid driving). I don't care what your bot is geared to run at, if mine can reach top speed faster I'll beat you there.

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So, I'll take that as yes, you don't need an operator, you can run autonomous control of your robot?

-q

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note to self, build fastest bot, with crazy acceleration for next year...

no seriously though, that is a really cool trophy

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Actually what wins drag races is the ability to transfer the power to the track. Smoke your tires and your race is over. That is why lane choice is critical. I have a feeling that moving these bots from carpet to asphalt/concrete will create some surprising results. I think this might be part of Andy’s challenge.

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I was factoring that into acceleration, as you can't accelerate very well without traction in a wheeled vehicle. :rolleyes:
Perhaps I should have worded that better, I didn't mean the radial acceleration of the wheels, I meant the linear acceleration of the robot/car as a whole.

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I thought you were joking...

hmmmm....

I suppose it is up to you.

Andy

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Thanks... it is fun to design really cool trophies.

The helmet idea was Steve Krawic's.

Andy B.

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really cool idea
to bad our old driver graduation he was a dragracer!

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Sorry Sean, maybe I should have worded my post better as well. I meant to imply that robots that do well on carpet might not do quite as well on asphalt/concrete.

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Oh I didn't disagree or miss that point either. I was just talking about something that would apply to either statement. The change on surface will be very interesting. Anyone know what kinds of commonly used FIRST tractions materials have high CoFs with asphalt/concrete?
Anyone's bot capable of burning out on the starting line? :cool:

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I wanna go fast. NASCAR fast.

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Will these drag races be filmed?

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Cool trophy and great idea. Sadly team 1098 did not quite make the championship. We tried to have a speed grudge match at the St Louis regional but couldn't get it together. I am glad you got this orginized.

Our bot has seen plenty of asphalt during testing. In fact the school parking lot was covered with salt from a early February ice storm, the first time we did high speed runs outside (we has to replace the drive chains because of all the salt) and it did chew up the tires pretty fast.

Have fun, wish we could attend!!!

We hope to attend IRI and will race anyone there.

Andy

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Awsome trophy! Just wondering, do all the gears and hat spin as one? or indevidual?

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All of the gears spin as one, as with the helmet. The gears are all 3/8" broached gears, all positioned on a hex shaft. The shaft spins on bearings located in the performance wheel.

As for filming... please bring you cameras. I don't know what to expect with regard to that.

The Gear Head is now somewhere in Kentucky... on its way to Atlanta.

Andy

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1629 "advertised" top speed is 29 ft/s but i haven't actualy seen it move at that speed during a match. Mosty due to lack of space but we will see at Champs

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So, who won the drag race?

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We need to know!!! WHO WON?

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who won? just from the few matches I saw RUSH was pretty fast.

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Better question: did it happen?

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More then likely it did. 1646 was asked to attend but we did not attend the party so we were unable to attend.

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Congrats to team 102 on winning the "Gear Head" trophy.
Course completed in 4.43 seconds.

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Video?

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More importantly, Dean Kamen won the "fan favorite" award, which was given to the crowds' favorite robot. If i remember correctly, Dean's time was 11.12 seconds.

There were many people recording the races, so I'm sure someone will share some video eventually.

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Dean was racing? I detect a Segway in the mix...

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Actually Dean was offered but declined the use of a Segway.

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1024 was also asked to be there, but also had to decline due to our flight's departure time. :(

Pretty Pleeeease Andy can you consider doing it at IRI? :o

-q

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I second that! We were invited but logistics got in the way.

Do the math:

IRI egos (they reportedly come to play there) + drag racing = :)

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its would be cool but 102 gets to keep it for the year until next time at champ.:cool:

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I'm quite suprised that I hadn't heard about this, at 19ft/s I would think that our robot would have been invited. What was the speed of the winner?

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I can not believe a video is not up yet! Especially with Dean running! WHAT!

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102 is geared for 27 fps, but also has enough torque to have their very light bot accelerate very quickly on that pavement.

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Is this the start of the race? Does wearing boots make Dean into a robot?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfV6h_cD4W4
Ask and you shall receive :cool:

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that is so cool!
Dean ate your dust, eh ?

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Here's another video from the end of the strip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo2JxmgNRnQ

GO GEARHEADS!:yikes:

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Thank You!

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I'm a little confused.

Team 102- 4.43 seconds.
Dean- 11.12 seconds.

Then why in the video do they look about 1 second apart?

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seems like dean is starting to have a bit more fun now. Between joking around in speeches, being on Colbert numerous times, and this, it's showing more of a fun side of him.

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I think his 11.12 second time was based on his first run.
The race against 102 was his second run.

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Thirded! As Kyle Love said, we were invited to attend but could not as none of the Purdue FIRST teams were attending the after party event.

This would be a fun thing to do at IRI after matches on Friday or something.

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that robot is blazing fast. will it be at IRI or anyother off season events?

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here he is racing both 102 and 2016
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCNexMcUeFg

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Where is 2016? That robot is fast!

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At the moment, Orion will only be at Monty Madness...
There are plans to attend a few others such as Brunswick Eruption, Ramp Riot, August Adventure
Sadly IRI is a bit too far for the team to travel... however if I had the robot and about 5 days of nothing to do, you could bet that robot would be out there :rolleyes: hehe