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AdamHeard 17-04-2008 17:24

Match Schedules
 
Please post 'em here when you get them for us stranded at home.

Bongle 17-04-2008 18:35

Re: Match Schedules
 
For FRC at least, they've been posted in the match results section of each regional this year. So you see the whole list, with predicted time and everything.

So they'll probably be here:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html

Vikesrock 17-04-2008 18:50

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bongle (Post 738525)
For FRC at least, they've been posted in the match results section of each regional this year. So you see the whole list, with predicted time and everything.

So they'll probably be here:
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html
http://www2.usfirst.org/2008comp/eve...chresults.html

I believe they appear there as soon as the first match result is uploaded in the morning. I know I would want the schedules before then if any kind souls are willing to post them. Then I can look for any matches I absolutely want to see no matter what.

waialua359 17-04-2008 20:12

Re: Match Schedules
 
we were there today and we dont have a match schedule for tomorrow for Newton.
At lunch time today, they posted on the big screen the schedule for Friday and Saturday. However, no one from pit admin could confirm whether or not it was just a test algorithm or the actual schedule.
I cant speak for the other divisions.

Can anyone confirm if its the same? Can someone post all or ours.:P

XaulZan11 17-04-2008 20:14

Re: Match Schedules
 
I do know that Curie has recieved theirs. I have 1732's matches, if anyone is interested. (but please don't flood my pm's, I know everyone can't wait to hear our matches;) )

waialua359 17-04-2008 20:20

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 738549)
I do know that Curie has recieved theirs. I have 1732's matches, if anyone is interested. (but please don't flood my pm's, I know everyone can't wait to hear our matches;) )

do you folks play with or against 368. They are a very good Hawaii hurdling and hybrid period robot.

XaulZan11 17-04-2008 20:31

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 738550)
do you folks play with or against 368. They are a very good Hawaii hurdling and hybrid period robot.

No, I was hoping that we would play with them (I don't know if I would want to play against them, though). I was impressed with them when doing some prescouting. I'm sure they will make an alliance very happy when elimination matches roll around.

MasterChief 573 17-04-2008 20:39

Re: Match Schedules
 
Our team is in Curie but to my knowledge we never got a match list for the qualifiers. Do you have the list or are you ever in a match with us?

XaulZan11 17-04-2008 20:42

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterChief 573 (Post 738555)
Our team is in Curie but to my knowledge we never got a match list for the qualifiers. Do you have the list or are you ever in a match with us?

We are actually against you in one match:

Match 21, 11:25 AM. 703-1732-830 vs 768-1102-573

I'm not there, so I'm not sure how my team got the match list...

65_Xero_Huskie 17-04-2008 21:14

Re: Match Schedules
 
Match list was given out at around 4pm
If you didnt recieve on you should talk to pit admin (Center of the pits) to get your copy.

Vikesrock 18-04-2008 00:26

Re: Match Schedules
 
Can't believe I was the first one to try this. Here are the match schedules:

Archimedes
Curie
Galileo
Newton

sdcantrell56 18-04-2008 00:31

Re: Match Schedules
 
Apparently they just put that up because I have been checking for the past 30 minutes. Good find. We actually have a match with you tomorrow

Vikesrock 18-04-2008 00:33

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdcantrell56 (Post 738640)
Apparently they just put that up because I have been checking for the past 30 minutes. Good find. We actually have a match with you tomorrow

Who's the "you" here? If it is referring to me you may want to check again, I don't think our robot would make it from MN to Atlanta by morning ;)

Vikesrock 18-04-2008 00:37

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBnum3 (Post 738643)
Nice!

I know the match scheduling algorithm has been discussed heavily, but listen to this: I just looked up my team's matches for the weekend, and out of their 35 alliance partners/opponents, only two of them have numbers lower than 1212. A quick glance at the rest of the schedule also reveals that the low number teams tend to play each other, and the same goes for the high number teams.

See this thread for more info:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=66983

s_forbes 18-04-2008 00:39

Re: Match Schedules
 
So who's going to run the numbers to try and predict the overall winner? It would be interesting to see how accurately it plays out.

65_Xero_Huskie 18-04-2008 00:41

Re: Match Schedules
 
Yea, The algorithm is working fine, and it is better than before.
It still has its inconsistencies. We have 121 on the field with us 2 in a row, and then 70 3 in a row, and we dont even see 25.
Its a good randomizer, however, 1114 looks to only play numbers lower than them 2 times int he competition. Its not my place to say how it works, but i think it could be made better.

sdcantrell56 18-04-2008 01:09

Re: Match Schedules
 
I was referring to the robovikes.

Tom Bottiglieri 18-04-2008 01:17

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 738646)
So who's going to run the numbers to try and predict the overall winner? It would be interesting to see how accurately it plays out.

Galileo:
Code:

Team    Wins
217    7
1114    7
103    6
121    6
330    6
1816    6
2046    6
2062    6
40    5
65    5
70    5
254    5
291    5
343    5
469    5
1089    5
1540    5
1629    5
1717    5
2165    5
2340    5
2549    5
25    4
176    4
180    4
195    4
234    4
302    4
316    4
364    4
384    4
425    4
494    4
812    4
932    4
1023    4
1138    4
1366    4
1983    4
2023    4
2354    4
2437    4
2468    4
2599    4
8    3
48    3
88    3
115    3
148    3
597    3
716    3
839    3
894    3
980    3
1296    3
1319    3
1390    3
1450    3
1676    3
1885    3
2237    3
2638    3
84    2
226    2
399    2
509    2
612    2
694    2
1038    2
1212    2
1254    2
1503    2
1523    2
1595    2
1739    2
1758    2
2423    2
2487    2
2564    2
134    1
168    1
457    1
548    1
2621    1
1576    0


Tim Delles 18-04-2008 01:50

Re: Match Schedules
 
match 72 on Archy looks like its going to be a good one.

Match 72: 27 66 71 - 201 1 116

From Curie i bring you:

Match 44: 33 16 45 - 126 326 237

From Newton i see:

Match 16: 968 20 692 - 329 39 175
Match 87: 111 175 128 - 359 102 79

Galileo:

Match 44: 70 180 217 - 399 40 65

Tottanka 18-04-2008 01:52

Re: Match Schedules
 
wow.
pink probably has the most hard schedule iv'e seen. They play almost vs. every powerhouse there.

EricH 18-04-2008 02:01

Re: Match Schedules
 
You know, Tom, that list you showed assumes 217 beats 330 in match 92. That match is going to be a pretty good one. Looks like the alliances (from what I remember on FF scoring) are pretty even, so it might come down to defense and speed. I just have to remember to wake up to watch it.

The matchup in question is Galileo #92: 1576, 548, 330 (red) versus 217, 384, 316 (blue).

Ryan Foley 18-04-2008 06:59

Re: Match Schedules
 
If you want to find all the matches for a particular team, try using the database I made last night.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2126

Guy Davidson 18-04-2008 07:20

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 738662)
You know, Tom, that list you showed assumes 217 beats 330 in match 92. That match is going to be a pretty good one. Looks like the alliances (from what I remember on FF scoring) are pretty even, so it might come down to defense and speed. I just have to remember to wake up to watch it.

The matchup in question is Galileo #92: 1576, 548, 330 (red) versus 217, 384, 316 (blue).

I take 217 in that match. Individually, 330 might be a bit better, but Sparky (384) looks better than the two teams who play with 330.

However, for the best match in Galileo, I give you match 75, scheduled for 9:03AM on Saturday: 1114, 234, 65 vs. 8, 254, 469.

Other good looking matches include:

Newton match 16: 968, 20, 692 vs. 329, 39, 175
Newton match 32: 111, 488, 47 vs. 233, 312, 159
Newton match 75: 233, 79, 868 vs. 296, 397, 39

Archi match 34: 949, 1218, 987 vs. 337, 71, 842
Archi match 37: 1547, 1379, 386 vs. 1024, 1398, 365
Archi match 88: 365, 190, 177 vs. 171, 357, 1124

No time to go over Curie now, gotta get going.

Bongle 18-04-2008 08:42

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 738657)
Galileo:
Code:

...rankings

If you ran that with OPRs, a useful modification would be to spit out matches ranked by sum total OPR (particularely if the ratio between blue OPR and red OPR is close to 1).

waialua359 19-04-2008 00:03

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Delles (Post 738660)
match 72 on Archy looks like its going to be a good one.

Match 72: 27 66 71 - 201 1 116

From Curie i bring you:

Match 44: 33 16 45 - 126 326 237

From Newton i see:

Match 16: 968 20 692 - 329 39 175
Match 87: 111 175 128 - 359 102 79

Galileo:

Match 44: 70 180 217 - 399 40 65

We've had a terrible first day due to a combination of things. We hope to be more successful tomorrow, especially match 87. Match 87 is similar to what we dealt with all day Friday in terms of playing some really tough matches. I cant stand penalties and multiple penalties from the same team in one match. All I know is we had NONE today.:D
One major point to make!
As you look at the match schedules on the big board, it looks like an hour glass shape, meaning, all of the lower no. teams are generally playing each other and the higher digit teams seem to only be playing each other.
Similar to what Joe Ross has said, the main parameter for this is to keep match schedules a consistent time apart. I will further the point that they should randomize the team no. FIRST before using the algorithm.
Match 87 is a perfect example of the match scheduling the whole weekend so far.

Joe Ross 19-04-2008 06:59

Re: Match Schedules
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bongle (Post 738691)
If you ran that with OPRs, a useful modification would be to spit out matches ranked by sum total OPR (particularely if the ratio between blue OPR and red OPR is close to 1).

The highest by far is match 75. Match 89 is second highest, and 79 is third highest and also a very close match.


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