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New Vex Microcontroller announced
Here is the latest press release from Innovation First / Vex Robotics:
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Whoa. There is a whole lot of change going on for 2009. Funny all this is happening at once. Maybe a little bit of competition is a good thing. Now IFI, how do we program this thing. Since Carnegie- Mellon is involved I suspect robot C is one answer. First is committed to NI and Lab view. I doubt NI will be able to play both sides by contract. The only thing I see for a VPL answer to Labview is MSRS. They do mention that a driver is available. Personally I may lean toward Labview. Hardware wise this is a step up from the NXT.
Which way to go? First or IFI. From no choice to a hard choice. |
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I can't afford this stuff. I wanted a Terk controller before but it was too expensive. Now I can't help myself. :(
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For $350, this looks like a more affordable option for the 2009 Control System , You can actually buy them on a normal robotics budget and Charmed Labs has been providing Robot Parts for BotBall for almost as many years as IFI Robotics has been for FIRST. I'm ok with the Compact Rio, I just think the cost on the Rio is way too high and hopefully it will come down to a few hundred dollars. I understand that FIRST wants more powerful processing, but I've seen many college robotics teams scrape together a very advanced robot at IGVC competitions with an old laptop and a simple micro-controller. |
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Don't compare this to the 2009 FRC compact rio. Compare it to the FTC lego solution. This is a much cleaner hardware platform than the lego. The big difference is the software. The FTC lego platform has many software options.
I haven't found a package that is the eqivalent to NXTG or labview student with add ins. May be Carnegie-mellon and IFI have something coming later. Both have promise. Which way to go? |
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I definitely like this solution more than the hybrid NXT/Hitechnic Adapter in the new FTC kits, simply based on the fact that this has been engineered as single, more elegant solution that is competitively priced.
And at only $350, it's only a little more than twice as expensive as the current Vex controllers (at the standalone price), but definitely provides a lot of cool features. And I can definitely see how some of my personal robotics projects (current and planned) would be able to benefit from this, as I've been searching through all my issues of Robot magazine for ads/articles about a good control system in the up to $500 range for a while now. And while I am waiting until more details are released (such as programming languages, which band of Wifi they are using, why there are all those holes in the top sheet metal cover, etc) this is looking like a very attractive control system. |
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Seems that through all the saturday chaos this went unnoticed. While we don't know if it's an addon or not (my guess is that it is) this clearly (in my mind) is superior to the FTC kit for a number of reasons:
(Just my honest opinion after being exposed to both current Vex products along with the FTC Showcase) A) Interfacing Lego with the FTC metal is possible, but causes tons of spacing problems that I won't go into. B) Vex already has a huge backlog of great products while FTC has the HiTechnic sensors and only standard wheels and gears currently. C) I like the fact that Vex is one product that has everything work together whereas FTC is straight up Lego with an additional Box for motors, servos and some sensors. D) The one big advantage that FTC had with their DC motors seem to be gone with the introduction of this new controller. My head hurts a lot and I feel pretty crappy, but I'll try to come up with more sometime later. Overall, this seems to be awesome and I can't wait for more details. Just my $0.02 |
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I am in need of a robot control system for a non-FIRST project and after looking at various options I determined the Qwerk robot controller would be ideal for my needs. Unfortunately, now that IFI has licensed the Qwerk from Charmed Labs the original Qwerk is no longer available for purchase from Charmed Labs. Does anyone know the development status of the new Qwerk based VEX controller and a possble release date? Other than the specs on the original Charmed Labs Qwerk and the IFI press release does anyone have any knowledge of what features the new Querk based VEX controller will actually have as compared to the Charmed Labs Qwerk? I need to have a controller by late May/early June and am going to have to start looking at other options if IFI doesn't release something soon. Anyone have any scoop they care to share?
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I like this A LOT.
All the more reason to go back to VRC after putting up with FTC this year. |
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