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You don't do GP and Safety for the award. You do it because it is the right thing to do. |
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I personally somewhat used my position this weekend, and if it was wrong I apologize. After we finished up with FLL on Einstein on Thursday and Friday afternoons, I wandered over to Curie to see how my daughter's FRC team was doing. Thursday I talked to the queuer and found they weren't scheduled for over an hour, so I wandered back off and went to the stands. Friday the team was in the "on deck" area, so I went to speak with them for a moment, and then stood off to the side near the AV booth to watch the match. I don't see either as abuse of the system. Even though I was an extra person on the floor, not needing to be there, that was the only way I would have seen their match. After volunteering for 2 days, not being able to see them at all, I wanted to take advantage of my opportunity to see them once. Had I made a nuisance of myself, getting in the way of robot paths and such, I could see how that would be a problem. I don't think that's what we're talking about; it's just like having the parent use the media pass to get a closer view. |
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I can't believe this happened...
I could maybe understand if it was non-FIRST people that thought they'd see what all the to do was about but... FIRST kids? Wow. I only hope that none of our team was the instigator of any of this stuff... though I guess that'll always be a mystery since probably nobody would say anything even if it was them. BUT! On the positive side, I think there was a LOT of GP at the Championship. Many times teams went out of their way to assist other teams... and I know I saw many 'tour groups' of people that were originally going to go to the auto show being led by students in their team shirts... ...team 1108 had their warehouse-like pit that had everything from Allen Wrenches to Zip Ties. (including CIM motors! :ahh: ) ...team 48 the Delphi Elite had their safety escorts on the prowl (ALL DAY I might add... you all deserve a massage. :] ) ...Many teams helped out our Israel teams as their tools were all 220v. There are many more, I'm sure, but these four are the ones that stand out most. We at 1024 did our part as well, lending tools, hands, and expertise... and whenever not busy, wandering the pits and looking for eager looking roboticists that'd love to tell you all about their machine. (though personally I tend to go for the pits where people don't look like they're having the best day ever). Yes, people screwed up at Championships, and it's not something to be overlooked. Swearing at a volunteer is not acceptable. But, also remember there's a ton of FIRST people that did a GP job last weekend in Atlanta. -q |
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I'd like to just take it back to the OP's message about the staff of the event.
They are not FIRSTers. They are staff hired to do their job. It is their livelihood. The 2 elevator staff I saw had stools in their corner of the world while they pushed buttons to go up and down all day. I'm sure they have to manage their time and follow the company's guidelines and rules regarding personal breaks and meals. They are basically stuck in the elevator with the people they are servicing.That is no reason whatsoever, for anyone associated with a FIRST team to call them names or verbally abuse them. It's wrong. We can talk about the good things teams do. I can talk for days without stopping. That was not the point of this thread. It was to address how the staff were treated at the event. There should be a system in place (if there is not already) for them to summon their supervisor and for the supervisor to report the troubles to the appropriate FIRST staff person to get this behavior nipped in the bud. |
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Next year, many of these same Dome staffers will be working our event. I suggest that we spread the word and make a concentrated effort to do random acts of kindness toward these people. We've got a year to think about what things we can do. What are some ideas? Andy |
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As much as I usually despise signage, It might be useful for FIRST to place the "approved to use this" signs
(The ones that had pictures of the red and yellow volunteer badges, Media badges, Production company badges, ect... of all those approved to enter an area.) by the elevators and limited access doors. Then the Dome staff could simply point unapproved badge holders' attention to the sign. But the only place I saw them was deep in the bowels of the Dome under the Newton stands where unapproved access was not really a problem. --------------------------- I would like to give kudos to the two students (from 703 I believe) who on their way to the dome one morning, noticed that the American flag outside of GWCC - Bldg. A had come down, and they stopped to re-post the colors and properly tie off the rope before continuing on to the dome/pits. |
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There's something we can do right now: Tell their bosses how much we appreciated them. http://www.gwcc.com/feedback.html
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I definitely noticed how many employees were smiling and cheerful as I walked in various sections of the complex. I thought this was an unusually high occurence relative to other places I typically frequent. I got the feeling that these were genuine pleasantries and not some mannerisms forced upon them by their superiors. I thought this was pretty dang neat. Security, elevator operators, etc. were all pleasant. I made sure to return the favor with a "Good Morning!" or "Hi, how ya doin?". That's all that is needed, I feel. |
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There acronyms and monikers that describe things at FIRST, like GP for example. Would it be useful to have something that helped encourage students to consciously reached out to the staff with some love and support ? (I know we are supposed to do that anyway, but) Probably it would be best if GP was extended to incorporate this. Of course it is there implicitly we we can do a little nudging. We want the staff think of the event as not just another bunch of people but WOW, what a really cool bunch of people !!! |
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It'd go a long way just to take time to stop and chat briefly with the volunteers who have to sit in the same spot all day doing the thankless jobs that go unnoticed by most passersby. Especially the volunteers we are constantly passing going back and forth from the pits to the dome. The elevator operators, queuers, those directing traffic at the crossways of FRC/FTC/FLL teams, overworked volunteer coordinators,... We may not have time rushing to make a match, but the return journey isn't too hectic to slow down and exchange a few words, hand them a button or team giveaway.
Common courtesy is always appreciated. It helps to understand the abuse they may be exposed to and to think about countering any bad experiences they have. We had a volunteer policing the robot team exit from the pits and she felt emotionally abused by all the people who'd ignore her polite requests. People without passes or badges of any sort who walked right past her. A teacher with a pack of young school children trailing behind her who was stopped then barged through the trundling robot traffic. Our volunteer and another young college woman just couldn't take it by the end of the first day. I noticed FIRST replaced them with larger male volunteers better able to refuse entrance to perennial gate crashers. Did my survey too. :) |
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