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EricH 24-04-2008 01:45

Re: A Trend in the FRC Games?
 
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Originally Posted by coldfusion1279 (Post 742000)
If only we had someone from first posting here.

We do, but all he gives us is yellow bananas, red herrings, and the occasional underwater robot or jello. One or two others are suspected (or confirmed), but don't make any game-related posts.

KarenH 24-04-2008 03:10

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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 741774)
Hmmm. FIRST is always in search of new and interesting game pieces for future FRC games. FIRST has just announced their new international regional event in New Zealand. Zorbs are made in New Zealand. Sheep love Zorbs. Sheep love FIRST. There are lots of sheep in New Zealand. Can it all just be a coincidence?

-dave

Of course not! Especially since the North American Zorb site is located in the Smoky Mountains, about a 4-hour drive from the FIRST Championship venue in Atlanta. :)

lingomaniac88 25-04-2008 21:20

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Originally Posted by dlavery (Post 741774)
Hmmm. FIRST is always in search of new and interesting game pieces for future FRC games. FIRST has just announced their new international regional event in New Zealand. Zorbs are made in New Zealand. Sheep love Zorbs. Sheep love FIRST. There are lots of sheep in New Zealand. Can it all just be a coincidence?

-dave

This isn't a game hint, is it?

DonRotolo 25-04-2008 21:44

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Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 741922)
for instance if we were allowed to build 38"x40" robots, I will bet at least a few teams would have to disassemble their shop to get the robot out.

Another trend, two drivers, a coach and a human player of some description is also present. Perhaps because it seems to work pretty well.

The field size also seems fairly fixed.

and with the possibility of video feedback, part of the match could be played with a curtain obscuring the driver's view of the field running on video feedback only.

Four good observations, the first being hilarious because I am sure it is true.

As for field size, I am unsure that FIRST has the desire to radically change the basic field layout, due to the costs involved with major changes. Those fields represent a big chunk of change..

Last, the idea of parts of the field being obscured from the drivers is outstanding, just a wall or curtain across the field would do...and to accommodate those teams that can't get the video working, the 'robo-coach' on the other end of the field can direct with hand signals during the match. Be sure to post that on the 2009 game thread...

Don

Molten 28-04-2008 18:54

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Originally Posted by lingomaniac88 (Post 742862)
This isn't a game hint, is it?

Everything that lavery says is a hint. Even if he doesn't know it himself, it is always a hint.

My thoughts for a game in the future, would use a heavy item. Perhaps a medicine ball. Not sure what to do with it, but it would be a great challenge to make a bot that can handle some decent inertia.

Also, what about something like weasel balls? They would be cheap and definitely a challenge. If they are too small you can always make a bigger version. Perhaps it might be best to remove the weasel


Alex Dinsmoor 30-04-2008 21:16

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Originally Posted by Molten (Post 743742)
Also, what about something like weasel balls? They would be cheap and definitely a challenge. If they are too small you can always make a bigger version. Perhaps it might be best to remove the weasel


But the weasel is the best part! Imagine teams driving around trying to catch a giant weasel! You know you want to see it, admit it ;) .

Libby K 06-05-2008 14:24

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 741934)
Placebo!

(For those that don't get it, some of the games pre-1997 (AKA before my first year as a spectator) had placebo robots to maintain a 1v1v1. They didn't do a whole lot other than move around.)

Long live the placebo!
I hope they come back in some way, shape or form. Not only were they wacky and fun to watch (I speak from experience, when I was little I was a spectator/occasional placebo bot driver), but it would be an interesting game challenge that many of the current drivers haven't encountered before.

JaneYoung 06-05-2008 14:36

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Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor (Post 744606)
But the weasel is the best part! Imagine teams driving around trying to catch a giant weasel! You know you want to see it, admit it ;) .

Well, so what do you do after you catch the weasel?

Pop it?

(Ever heard of the song, Pop Goes the Weasel? Many many years ago, I had a little jack-in-the-box that popped up to Pop Goes The Weasel...loved that thing.)

EricH 06-05-2008 14:41

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Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 746168)
Pop it?

(Ever heard of the song, Pop Goes the Weasel? Many many years ago, I had a little jack-in-the-box that popped up to Pop Goes The Weasel...loved that thing.)

Round and round the cobbler's bench, monkey chased the weasel...

Leav 06-05-2008 17:38

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just wanted to remind you guys of the quantum problem you are facing here....

by posting to CD about next year's game you have in fact informed the GDC (via Dave) that you know about their pattern....

CD poster:
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Next Year's game will use boxes.
Dave Lavery:
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Oh no! they are on to us! let's use balls again!!
but you can rest assured: I have restored the balance by letting the GDC know that I know that they know that you know they have a pattern.

then again.... if they know that you know that they know that you know they have a pattern they might just ignore the fact that you know they have a pattern all together.....

(:p)

-Leav

Koko Ed 07-05-2008 11:27

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Originally Posted by Leav (Post 746212)
just wanted to remind you guys of the quantum problem you are facing here....

by posting to CD about next year's game you have in fact informed the GDC (via Dave) that you know about their pattern....

Dave will feed us a steady diet of red herrings before he goes in for the kill.
The game has just begun!

EricH 07-05-2008 11:37

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 746371)
Dave will feed us a steady diet of red herrings before he goes in for the kill.
The game has just begun!

He hasn't launched one yet. Not even the traditional "You design the game!" threads. He must be in hibernation.

Blue_Mist 07-05-2008 23:42

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 746170)
Round and round the cobbler's bench, monkey chased the weasel...

Round and round the '09 field, the robot chased the weasel...

Sorry, couldn't resist! But it would be cool if we had an ice field and robots chasing weasels. Ah, that would be hilarious, but may result in some non-FIRSTers not taking us seriously...

Big Kid 13-05-2008 21:16

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Originally Posted by Blue_Mist (Post 746612)
Round and round the '09 field, the robot chased the weasel...

Sorry, couldn't resist! But it would be cool if we had an ice field and robots chasing weasels. Ah, that would be hilarious, but may result in some non-FIRSTers not taking us seriously...

And not to mention some possible increase of needed pit time. Robot + Ice + KOP wheels = disaster

better give us some nice tire chains in that KOP

lol, jk

acdcfan259 14-05-2008 20:54

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Heres my idea. Theres a ball like in '05 that you have to hit over, that triggers the pancake batter pouring into the pan. The robots race over to the pan, wait for it to cook, flip it. Race the pancake over to the judges table and place the pancake on the judges plate. The judges judge each robots pancake on its taste, texture, and appearence. Now there would be the bonus chocolate chip pancake batter ball on a 10 foot pedestal.


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