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=Martin=Taylor= 28-09-2008 00:13

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
Any pics of 973's new design?

How'ed the cRIO look on the Beachbot :cool: ?

EricH 28-09-2008 00:28

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 767544)
Any pics of 973's new design?

How'ed the cRIO look on the Beachbot :cool: ?

A source at the event says that the cRIO was not on any Beach 'Bot. However, it was on a breadboard and functional.

s_forbes 28-09-2008 00:55

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 767544)
Any pics of 973's new design?

How'ed the cRIO look on the Beachbot :cool: ?


I took a bunch of pictures of 973's awesome new drivetrain, I hope they don't mind if I post a picture. It's the best swerve set up that I've seen and looks like a lot of fun to play with.

The cRIO was set up on a board, not on the bot unfortunately. It also looks like a lot of fun to play with...

sanddrag 28-09-2008 01:22

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
Yet another top quality SCRRF event. I highly recommend other teams coming out to it next year. Let's double it's size! I hope this event can become the "IRI" of the west coast. We had a blast!

Recognition goes to team 1726 for coming all the way from Arizona, team 692 for coming all the way from Sacramento.

Special thanks to Joseph Vanderway, Chris Hussman, David Brinza, Terry (last name?), and Teams 2404 and 980, and all the other planners and organizers for this fantastic event. I look forward to it next year!

NoahTheBoa 28-09-2008 01:29

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The SCRRFF did a great job organizing this event. It was very enjoyable as usual and team 2404 were great hosts.
Also, congratulations to 968's first seeded alliance 968, 330A, 980, and 1160 for winning the competition.

=Martin=Taylor= 28-09-2008 01:47

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 767547)
I took a bunch of pictures of 973's awesome new drivetrain, I hope they don't mind if I post a picture. It's the best swerve set up that I've seen and looks like a lot of fun to play with.

The cRIO was set up on a board, not on the bot unfortunately. It also looks like a lot of fun to play with...

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 746221)
You're making a swerve/crab.

Nobody keeps secrets from us. :cool:

Very cool looking, although I don't think its going anywhere (if you know what I mean ;))

How much does it weigh? Speeds? vids? :D

AdamHeard 28-09-2008 02:35

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
We had some hardware delays that were killing us, so we didn't really get a chance to try to tune the control loops until friday night and then at the event today.

We will get it running, and videos will be coming soon. \

With no electrical board or associated fasteners, it weighs 47 pounds. None of the sprockets or gears are modified for weight, and we can remove and additional pound or so (been a while since we tallied the exact amount) by trimming weight, or switching to all aluminum sprockets.

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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 767554)
Nobody keeps secrets from us. :cool:

Very cool looking, although I don't think its going anywhere (if you know what I mean ;))

How much does it weigh? Speeds? vids? :D

What do you mean by not going anywhere?

=Martin=Taylor= 28-09-2008 03:01

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 767556)
What do you mean by not going anywhere?

lol its just the picture. The wheels are pointed everywhere. :D

David Brinza 28-09-2008 03:50

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The Fall Classic was indeed a blast. The finals were classic indeed, as a third match was needed to decide the outcome. Many teams gave new drivers a "baptism by fire" in this event. Some first-time spectators were amazed at the level of performance exhibited throughout the event.

Here's the list of award winners:
Best Hybrid: RAWC (968) for consistently crossing 5 lines and taking down a trackball

Toughest Defender: ThunderBots (980) for "keep away" trackball denial by trapping or knocking scored trackballs back into the opponents homestretch

Highest Scorer: Holy Cows (1538). Effective driving, ball capture and reliable elevator made this team a consistent offensive powerhouse

Coolest Robot: BeachBots (330A). This award was determined by ballot of the Fall Classic teams. Even in the hands of new drivers, 330's robot was most effective.

Team Spirit: RoboDox (599) for not only their high-energy presence in Overdrive competition, but also conducting a VEX mini-tournament that capture a lot the attention from younger spectators.

Judges Award: N.E.R.D.S (1726) made the trek across the desert and was ready to play. Fully acclimated to the stifling conditions in the gym, their team tested new drivers with the full support of their contingent.

Finalists: Eagle Engineering (1138, #2 seed), NERDS (1726), GRR (973), Holy Cows (1538) and Reseda Regents Robotics (2548) pulled off a stunning first-match victory in the finals, but couldn't hold off the...

Champions: RAWC (968, #1 seed), BeachBots (330A), ThunderBots (980) and San Marino (1160). Thirty penalty points cost the alliance the first match, but in spite of a failed shooter in 968 and 1160 substituting for 980, the #1 alliance toughed-out a well-deserved victory.
The event organizers were pleased by the quality of the teams. A little patience was needed as the match list was manually produced at the last minute due late changes in participating teams. The Fall Classic has a quite a way to go to reach "IRI Status". We share Sanddrag's inspirational vision of the future. We need some more teams and support from sponsors to realize this goal. We all have some homework to do.

Thanks to all of the Fall Classic volunteers and participants (all of whom came away as winners) for the success of the event. We hope to see a bigger and better Fall Classic next year.

NoahTheBoa 28-09-2008 03:55

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Originally Posted by David Brinza (Post 767558)

Finalists: Eagle Engineering (1138, #2 seed), GRR (973), Holy Cows (1538) and Reseda Regents Robotics (2548) pulled off a stunning first-match victory in the finals, but couldn't hold off the...

1538 was actually the #3 seeded alliance captain. The second alliance was 1138, 1726, 973, and 2548.

David Brinza 28-09-2008 09:34

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
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Originally Posted by NoahTheBoa (Post 767559)
1538 was actually the #3 seeded alliance captain. The second alliance was 1138, 1726, 973, and 2548.

Thanks for the correction - I edited my original post.

Nica F. 28-09-2008 16:56

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
Congrats to 968,330,980,& 1160 ! ;)
Glad to hear that all the new drivers are doing well already. I'm sure LA Regional will be a great experience with the new batch of students and a whole new venue.

KarenH 28-09-2008 19:59

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
The top seeds were:

1) 968 330A 980 1160
2) 1138 1726 973 2548
3) 1538 692 981 2404
4) 330B 294 599 597

(unless I jumbled up some of the team numbers)

Tournament scores:
Semifinal 1--match 1 74-14 match 2 72-30 (between #1 & #4 seeded alliances)
Semifinal 2--match 1 62-32 match 2 42-20 (between #2 & #3 seeded alliances)
Final--match 1 36-42 match 2 52-46 match 3 50-8

The Beach Bots were amused that our B team, running our modified 2005 champion robot, beat our A team, running our 2008 machine, in the qualifications. But our A team's alliance beat the B team in the eliminations.

Also, I want to personally thank our host team for making plenty of food available at reasonable prices all day long. Yum!

unclewaldo 28-09-2008 20:20

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
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Originally Posted by Hachiban VIII (Post 767557)
lol its just the picture. The wheels are pointed everywhere. :D

After you finish laughing, look again closely. This is not a 'bug' but a design feature of this crab configuration. A pair of rotating wheel modules are linked and are steered by a single encoded steering unit [and you have two of these independent linked pairs]. By coming up to an opponent, stopping, and rotating in place one set [or both sets] of wheels perpendicular to opponent's intended path, this effectively maximizes the robot's blocking effort without expending motor/electrical energy to lock wheels. Quick rotation of paired units back in alignment with other pair .....and off you go.. in any direction you choose... very interesting ...

AdamHeard 28-09-2008 20:32

Re: Fall Classic - Southern California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewaldo (Post 767647)
After you finish laughing, look again closely. This is not a 'bug' but a design feature of this crab configuration. A pair of rotating wheel modules are linked and are steered by a single encoded steering unit [and you have two of these independent linked pairs]. By coming up to an opponent, stopping, and rotating in place one set [or both sets] of wheels perpendicular to opponent's intended path, this effectively maximizes the robot's blocking effort without expending motor/electrical energy to lock wheels. Quick rotation of paired units back in alignment with other pair .....and off you go.. in any direction you choose... very interesting ...

Nah, if you look again closely, the left pair are off compared to each other. honest mistake on our part.


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